Whats going on at yellowstone?

Guys, those times and magnitudes really seem to me like the 3.0+ magnitude earthquakes occurred on January 2nd, which have already been detected, reviewed and listed on the UUSS site. Check out this page on January 2nd...

3.1 2009/01/02 13:15:39 44.528N 110.366W 3.4 60 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
3.2 2009/01/02 12:40:53 44.549N 110.370W 0.2 60 km (37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.2 2009/01/02 11:50:37 44.549N 110.364W 1.0 60 km (37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
2.8 2009/01/02 11:48:21 44.551N 110.354W 0.6 61 km (38 mi) E of West Yellowstone, MT
3.5 2009/01/02 11:32:49 44.549N 110.357W 5.4 61 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT

[edit on 2009/1/4 by Shirakawa]

reply to post by trusername

can someone post the link to Robert Smith article where he talks about world wide earthquakes may be connected?

www.scienceblog.com...

Originally posted by Shirakawa
Guys, those times and magnitudes really seem to me like the 3.0+ magnitude earthquakes occurred on January 2nd, which have already been detected, reviewed and listed on the UUSS site. Check out this page on January 2nd...

[edit on 2009/1/4 by Shirakawa]

[edit on 2009/1/4 by Shirakawa]

If you are referring to my post on the last page, they are todays charts.

Originally posted by bigdog36
Just found this updated info from RSOE under the "Situation Update" box:
RSOE EDIS

"On 04.01.2009 at 05:38 GMT+2

At 11:32 this morning, a 3.5 magnitude earthquake was reported 38 miles east southeast of West Yellowstone, Mont., in Yellowstone National Park — the latest in a swarm of earthquakes that has hit the area in the past week. The 3.5 tremor was followed this afternoon by a 3.2 magnitude quake at 12:40 p.m. and a 3.0 temblor at 1:15 p.m. The swarm of more than 500 tremors is the largest series of back-to-back quakes to hit the area in years, according to scientists...."

"Professor Robert B. Smith, a geophysicist at the University of Utah and one of the leading experts on earthquake and volcanic activity at Yellowstone, said that the swarm is of keen interest to scientists. "It's not business as usual," said Smith. "This is a large earthquake swarm, and we've recorded several hundred. We are paying careful attention. This is an important sequence."

However, the observatory said there is some potential for explosions and that earthquakes may continue and increase in intensity. Joe Moore, director of the Wyoming Office of Homeland Security, said his office is tracking the events at Yellowstone on a minute-by-minute basis. "It's being followed very closely," said Moore. He said his office has evaluated the emergency plans — which includes evacuations — developed by Teton County, where Jackson Hole is located, and Park County, where Cody is located. Should a destructive earthquake or volcanic explosion occur, he said his agency would assist those counties as well as communities in Fremont County, which includes the Wind River Indian Reservation. He said the Federal Emergency Management Agency in Denver is closely monitoring the seismic activity in Yellowstone.

That sounds a bit more serious than what they have officially been saying.

They need to fix this, the quake they are referring to was this one on the 2nd and did not occur today the 4th.

3.5 2009/01/02 11:32:49 44.549N 110.357W 5.4 61 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT

The article is VERY misleading.

[edit on 1/4/09 by maeveoc]

www.quake.utah.edu... look at this and scroll down

www.quake.utah.edu...

Originally posted by j2000
I found this graph for LKWY

mbmgquake.mtech.edu...

The one that I had been following is this one.

www.seis.utah.edu...

If it's the same recorder, why is it so different?
I've been following this and the other thread from day one, maybe I missed something. If I did I appoligize. If I didn't, then what the heck is going on?

There was the same events on both. One that stands out is at about 2:20am local. It looks like another 2. something on the one everyone has been following. It looks like another beast one the new one that I found.

I guess maybe they have changed the sensitivity levels different on them.
So what's the "real" information on how bad this is?

reply to post by j2000


Sorry, I was talking about today's RSOE EDIS report on 3.0+ magnitude earthquakes apparently occurred this morning at Yellowstone and not added. It's old news, those EQs are from January 2nd and have already been listed and reviewed on USGS and UUSS sites.

Very interesting, and maybe corroboration of what I was saying that at 100 microvolts we'd see much larger amplitudes:

And here is LWKY, except scale= 200 microvolts, unclipped, it appears, instead of the 500 we have been seeing.

mbmgquake.mtech.edu...



I guess my understanding can't be too far off, because I drew my conclusions on my own, before ever seeing that link. But I am a noob at this, for sure, unlike so many of you experts. 'Scuse me.

another small quake at 16:53, verified by multiple sensors...


wonder why they arent updating the page that shows all the quakes?

4.3 quake just hit NE corner of Nevada, about 200 plus miles sw of Yellowstone!

NE Nevada quake




[edit on 1/4/09 by mel1962]

Originally posted by j2000

Originally posted by j2000
I found this graph for LKWY

mbmgquake.mtech.edu...

The one that I had been following is this one.

www.seis.utah.edu...

If it's the same recorder, why is it so different?
I've been following this and the other thread from day one, maybe I missed something. If I did I appoligize. If I didn't, then what the heck is going on?

There was the same events on both. One that stands out is at about 2:20am local. It looks like another 2. something on the one everyone has been following. It looks like another beast one the new one that I found.

I guess maybe they have changed the sensitivity levels different on them.
So what's the "real" information on how bad this is?

I found the difference, one is at 500 microvolts and the other is 200 microvolts.

I guess we need to pay attention to what they have the settings at.
I tried to check a few of the others at the seis.utah site, but the bottom of the pages are cut off.










[edit on 4-1-2009 by j2000]

Originally posted by meagerhair
Also since most of the equipment installed at these monitoring sites is purchased by the government it may not be the best gear available it was just the lowest bid or a company affiliated with the outgoing VP.

Excellent point meagerhair. Sort of sounds privatized, or as difficult to discern as an election box.

We also need to be figuring out the people who maintain this equipment and calibrate the software. We're figuring out seismographs at many different stations, people here are providing excellent science and links but we must also understand the people who use the equipment, schedule, maintain and monitor.

There seems to no easily discerned standards nor are any of the technicians who are in direct contact with this equipment chiming in here, (and I LOVE this thread) which means...let's hope they're excited, laughing but not at us and they are behaving professionally.

So what's the professional ethic for the person who goes out maintains or re-calibrates the equipment in freezing nasty weather and writes something down or re-boots the cams, seismographs or empties the parks waste buckets? Then there's the people who processes that info...heh.

ok - just for fun - I'm going to go under the assumption for a few minutes that

1) there some intern who's sole job it is is to monitor our threads and jerk us around Several times within minutes of mentioning something - we get it. Most recently - we were complaining about RSOE not having any 2.5+ calif or US quakes at all for 72 hours - now the map is full of them again.

2) different swapping charts are going from straight lines to verging on harmonics ever since that P wave (is that the term?) from Afghanistan and / or Indonesia and the slurry of fury.

3) we have RSOE with a volcano warning for Y - but USGS with it still at green

4) large quakes on some graphs that on the 31st would show up everywhere - are now the tiniest of blips on other charts - it's like they've turned a knob down.

this stuff is all over the place. I know these public charts are not what they're working with - but it's silly and messy - what ever it is. and I'm finding too many oddities to think its all normal. but that's why I love this site - ... I'm nuts

Originally posted by trusername


ok - just for fun - I'm going to go under the assumption for a few minutes that

1) there some intern who's sole job it is is to monitor our threads and jerk us around

Several times within minutes of mentioning something - we get it. Most recently - we were complaining about RSOE not having any 2.5+ calif or US quakes at all for 72 hours - now the map is full of them again.



2) different swapping charts are going from straight lines to verging on harmonics ever since that P wave (is that the term?) from Afghanistan and / or Indonesia and the slurry of fury.
example - see post directly below



3) we have RSOE with a volcano warning for Y - but USGS with it still at green

4) large quakes on some graphs that on the 31st would show up everywhere - are now the tiniest of blips on other charts - it's like they've turned a knob down.

example
www.quake.utah.edu...
doesn't show upon others nearby


this stuff is all over the place. I know these public charts are not what they're working with - but it's silly and messy - what ever it is. and I'm finding too many oddities to think its all normal. but that's why I love this site - ... I'm nuts

[edit on 1/4/2009 by trusername]

[edit on 1/4/2009 by trusername]

Originally posted by trusername

look at this

www.quake.utah.edu... and scroll down

www.seis.utah.edu... and scroll down

I guess the problem moved?

or they're swapping URLs?

I am getting a big spike on my GEE for LKWY. I saw that quake in NV listed. I don't think we are seeing all of what is going on being posted and the lull is close to being over. I think we will definitly see more activity in the next few days, YS or not. I believe for the most part, these people are being told what they can and can not say. Spokespeople for USGS I am sure have been briefed on what is too much information. Maybe I'm too paranoid, but we're talking our government.

Did I read the posts and info correctly, the swarm had been moving NW and NNW for the most part, then moved to the SE? Then the large quake in NV to the SW?

One question, maybe off topic or not (if so, sorry). If Homeland Security is monitoring this, has anyone noticed any odd shipments of supplies going to the Jackson Hole and Cody areas? Water, HazMat suits, FEMA, etc.?

Latest U.S. Volcano Alerts and Updates for Sunday, Jan 4, 2009 at 09:12:03 PST
2009-01-03 20:44:51 Redoubt Advisory Yellow
2009-01-03 20:44:51 Cleveland Advisory Yellow
2009-01-03 17:51:05 Kilauea Watch Orange
2009-01-03 02:30:38 Yellowstone Normal Green
2009-01-03 01:03:45 Cascade Range Normal Green
2009-01-02 18:04:52 Long Valley Volcanic Center Normal Green
2008-12-27 00:06:42 Anatahan Normal Green
2008-12-09 02:50:00 Mauna Loa Advisory Yellow

From USGS. YS is still on the volcano list, still green. It wasn't listed earlier?

What the hell is up with the streaming Old F cam? Someone was panning around with it and it got a bunch of snow on it. Now it is trained on a trail not maintained sign, instead of the geyser!

Anyone checked out old faithful recently it looks like the lens is covered in ash, and it appears real smokey in the foreground. If I am wrong all good please shoot me down.

Originally posted by j2000
I found this graph for LKWY

mbmgquake.mtech.edu...

The one that I had been following is this one.

www.seis.utah.edu...

If it's the same recorder, why is it so different?
I've been following this and the other thread from day one, maybe I missed something. If I did I appoligize. If I didn't, then what the heck is going on?

On the first link, at the bottom you see the settings are 200 microns and a vertical of 100, whereas on the second one the settings are 500 microns and a vertical of 5.
This is why the 2 sites are different.
Earlier, someone noticed that the LKWY site is set at 500 microns whereas all the others are set at 100, so I have sent off an e-mail to the director asking why this is.
If I receive a reply I will post it here.

Blessings