Whats going on at yellowstone?

reply to post by Infinity Eagle



You requoting that for a reason? This threads getting quite large as it is.

reply to post by Shirakawa


well good point, but then can you explain why the big red event at UTC 9:17 on the LKWY graph registers very low for the same event on the YML graph? It should be five times more pegged than it is, or close to it on the YML graph. I realize the exact hypo/epicenters are at play there, and could be the reason for the difference, but it just seems strange.

[edit on 4-1-2009 by TrueAmerican]

reply to post by TrueAmerican


As written on the bottom of each chart, traces are always clipped at minus/plus five vertical divisions, so relevant earthquakes will always seem to have all the same amplitude on these charts. Anyway, we're talking about very small events that dissipate quickly over small distances, so I don't think it's unusual to have a little EQ stand out and another one with very low reported amplitude on a seismograph station and the exact opposite for the same events in another nearby station.

[edit on 2009/1/4 by Shirakawa]

reply to post by Memysabu
My Bad hit the wrong button

Situation Update No. 5
On 04.01.2009 at 05:38 GMT+2

At 11:32 this morning, a 3.5 magnitude earthquake was reported 38 miles east southeast of West Yellowstone, Mont., in Yellowstone National Park — the latest in a swarm of earthquakes that has hit the area in the past week. The 3.5 tremor was followed this afternoon by a 3.2 magnitude quake at 12:40 p.m. and a 3.0 temblor at 1:15 p.m. The swarm of more than 500 tremors is the largest series of back-to-back quakes to hit the area in years, according to scientists. Today's quakes came on the heels of a series of tremors on New Year's Day, including a 3.0 at 6:30 p.m. and a 3.1 at 6:21 p.m. "The December 2008 earthquake sequence is the most intense in this area for some years," said the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory. "No damage has been reported within Yellowstone National Park, nor would any be expected from earthquakes of this size." According to the observatory, Yellowstone seismicity increased significantly in December because of what it described as an "energetic earthquake swarm" that began Dec. 27. The swarm is occurring beneath the northern part of Yellowstone Lake in the park. The largest of the quakes, according to the observatory, was a magnitude 3.9 at 10:15 p.m. on Dec. 27. Some of the larger earthquakes have been felt by park employees and guests, according to the observatory. The observatory was created as a partnership of the U.S. Geological Survey, Yellowstone National Park and the University of Utah. It monitors long-term volcanic and earthquake activity in the Yellowstone National Park region.

Professor Robert B. Smith, a geophysicist at the University of Utah and one of the leading experts on earthquake and volcanic activity at Yellowstone, said that the swarm is of keen interest to scientists. "It's not business as usual," said Smith. "This is a large earthquake swarm, and we've recorded several hundred. We are paying careful attention. This is an important sequence." Smith noted that beginning in 2004, there was "accelerated uplift of the Yellowstone Caldera" that covered the entire caldera. In 2007, Smith and his University of Utah colleagues said the current rise in the caldera was "unprecedented" but concluded that because there were no major earthquakes or "earthquake swarms" accompanying the uplift, they found "little indication that the volcano is moving toward an eruption." The last major earthquake swarm was in 1985 and lasted three months, Smith told The Denver Post. The Yellowstone Plateau, which comprises Yellowstone National Park, is one of the largest super-volcanoes in the world and has gone through three volcanic cycles spanning two million years that included some of the world's largest-known eruptions. Through 5 p.m. Dec. 31, the swarm had included 12 events of magnitude 3.0 to 3.9 and approximately 20 of 2.5 to 2.9, with a total of 400 quakes large enough to be located.

The observatory said similar swarms have occurred in the past without triggering steam explosions or volcanic activity. However, the observatory said there is some potential for explosions and that earthquakes may continue and increase in intensity. Joe Moore, director of the Wyoming Office of Homeland Security, said his office is tracking the events at Yellowstone on a minute-by-minute basis. "It's being followed very closely," said Moore. He said his office has evaluated the emergency plans — which includes evacuations — developed by Teton County, where Jackson Hole is located, and Park County, where Cody is located. Should a destructive earthquake or volcanic explosion occur, he said his agency would assist those counties as well as communities in Fremont County, which includes the Wind River Indian Reservation. He said the Federal Emergency Management Agency in Denver is closely monitoring the seismic activity in Yellowstone. "They are following it as much as we are," said Moore. "There has been an outstanding exchange of information" between local, state and federal agencies, he said. Yellowstone is the site of the largest and most diverse collection of natural thermal features in the world.

The most devastating earthquake in recent history in the Yellowstone region occurred on Aug. 17, 1959, when a magnitude 7.1 earthquake hit. It was centered near Hebgen Lake, Mont., killed 28 people and caused more than $11 million in damage. Geysers in Yellowstone National park changed eruption times, and new ones began to erupt. On June 30, 1975, a magnitude 6.4 tremor hit the park.

updated from RSOE EDIS

What does it mean when the readings on GEE are negative and running that way?
I tried to load the YS network to it and it would only open the lake and the H17A

reply to post by xoxo stacie


To watch realtime data for Yellowstone network stations on GEE you have to make sure to select certain channels.

Example for the ones I picked on my pc:
(first column: station, second column: channel)

YGC EHZ
YHB EHZ
YHH EHE, EHN, EHZ
YJC EHZ
YLT EHZ
YMC EHZ
YML EHZ
YMP EHE, EHN, EHZ
YMR HHE, HHN, HHZ
YMS EHZ
YMV EHZ
YNR HHE, HHN, HHZ
YPC EHZ
YPM EHZ
YPP EHZ
YSB EHZ
YTP EHZ
YUF HHE, HHN, HHZ

Other stations use the same single component or three component channels listed above.

Originally posted by SpadeofAces
These are the current rivers and streams currently experiencing an increased flow based on historical data in the general area. These spikes look extremely abnormal to me. Something to watch in the next day or so....But the data could be corrupted, or it is icing over. Very interesting.


Madison River near West Yellowstone MT

Yellowstone River at Yellowstone Lk Outlet YNP

NORTH FORK SHOSHONE RIVER AT WAPITI, WY

CHEYENNE RIVER NR DULL CENTER, WY

CROW CREEK AT 19TH
STREET, AT CHEYENNE, WY

PINE CREEK ABOVE FREMONT LAKE, WY

BEAR RIVER BLW SMITHS FORK, NR COKEVILLE, WY

SNAKE RIVER AT MOOSE, WY

Keep in mind these are all near the Tetons, Yellowstone, and mostly near the caldera.

Interesting find!
Are these rivers flowing out of the area or into the area?
Edit to add- It look as if all the spikes in the corrisponding areas co-incided with the quake in New Gunea at approx 1900hrs.
Does someone know why this would happen?

[edit on 4-1-2009 by Rumbottlerenovator]

reply to post by violet



I've been reading this thread almost from the beginning. Very interesting thread with a lot of information. Not too 'conspiracy-theorist'. I've never been on this site before either.

Well, just wanted to post that I did see Yellowstone volcano added to the Volcano alert list yesterday.
Thanks Violet for posting the link.

(by the way, I'm not a native English speaker, and I'm from Scandinavia)

Could anybody answer my question? Is there a possibility that HAARP in Alaska could be causing this? With the quakes in Alaska and the news story thar many people in Alaska had seen lights in the sky and a loud boom..also China accusing the USA of using it??

reply to post by sueloujo


could you get me a link to that news and china's accusation?
that'd be great:9

In GEE the curve for LKWY in the z direction is 3.2 microns/sec away from zero on avarege.

3.15 micron * 24 * 3600 = 27.21600 centimeters

or slightly less than a foot.

Does this mean that the caldera floor is moving up a foot a day ?

Or is it simply a calibration issue ....




[edit on 4-1-2009 by pilot70]

[edit on 4-1-2009 by pilot70]

It's just noise

reply to post by Shirakawa


Like I said about 100 pages ago, if you look at these charts like a music engineer does you can "EQ" them and apply dynamic effects in real time. Even the simplest $29. USD software can do this. Some programs will detect clipping and automatically adjusts. Some engineers take a cautious approach with dynamic processing and some try to repair the damage (clipping most often) later.

It would be nice if there were a universal standard where it involves seismology, I must say.

here are the links
www.foxnews.com...

and

redskynews.com...

Originally posted by Memysabu

I know this isn't "what it is", but what it resembles is an RF signal for an FM broadcast where an audio signal is broadcast over a carrier frequency.

Relevant to an earthquake, perhaps we are seeing a carrier resonance that vibrates as a whole with localized quakes being broadcast on the carrier.

This is in response to several questions, several pages back, about the blank, or "white" spaces in the graphs from the University of Utah's Webicorder for LKWY.......

Two days ago, I emailed a person at the University, and this morning, recieved this reply:

For webicorder: LKWY on 01/01/2009;

"We had a slight problem with the leap second and data duplication and
had to re start the Webicorder. Good call tho."

So, theres the answer to that mystery.

[edit on 1/4/2009 by MadDogtheHunter]

reply to post by Shirakawa


It's curious. After checking the vertical scales in microvolts from all around that region, LKWY seems to be the only one I saw with vertical scale=500 microvolts. Almost everything else is set at 100 microvolts. One I saw was at 66.67 microvolts, meaning an even more resolute scale.

Now if I am understanding things correctly, does this mean that it takes five times the energy to reach the clip point (either up or down) on the LKWY scale than it does any of the others set at 100? Because if that is true, given the close proximity of YML and LKWY then it seems that someone doesn't want the graph at LKWY (probably the closest to these quakes) at first glance to show as reading too much activity- when in reality, if the LKWY graph was set to 100 vertical microvolts like the others, we would be seeing five times vertically the activity at LKWY.

That would seem to me to be the closest evidence of a coverup, if there is one, and if I am understanding things correctly (which I admit, this is very complicated, so I may be way off base).

Edit: And further I just want to point out that things seem to be a lot more consistent in Gee, with all scales that I have seen set to microns/second. And there I have another question: is there a setting on these that allows a similar recalibration for the live output feeds received in Gee? Because if there is, they could be deceiving us there too.

[edit on 4-1-2009 by TrueAmerican]

Originally posted by ian990003100
Situation Update No. 5
On 04.01.2009 at 05:38 GMT+2

At 11:32 this morning, a 3.5 magnitude earthquake was reported 38 miles east southeast of West Yellowstone, Mont., in Yellowstone National Park — the latest in a swarm of earthquakes that has hit the area in the past week. The 3.5 tremor was followed this afternoon by a 3.2 magnitude quake at 12:40 p.m. and a 3.0 temblor at 1:15 p.m.


Why wasn't this posted here:

earthquake.usgs.gov...

and here?

earthquake.usgs.gov...

Two are listed as tremor and one as quake.

[edit on 1/4/2009 by sad_eyed_lady]