Whats going on at yellowstone?

Originally posted by toast317
Well I said that it's a good thing that it's not going to happen, but lame that I went out and stocked up on water and canned foods and was being paranoid about it and it ends up not happening.

Good...You've now been cured.

Originally posted by Rocketgirl

Originally posted by Ionized
Yes. 100% probability that it will erupt.

However, there is no way to tell when. Could be thousands of years more.

I know that, I was asking if anyone was sure that Yellowstone wasn't going to erupt anytime soon.

That my friend is the million dollar question.

But, as it's looking at the moment, things seem to be calming.

Originally posted by seasonedherb

Originally posted by Rocketgirl

Originally posted by Ionized
Yes. 100% probability that it will erupt.

However, there is no way to tell when. Could be thousands of years more.

I know that, I was asking if anyone was sure that Yellowstone wasn't going to erupt anytime soon.

That my friend is the million dollar question.

But, as it's looking at the moment, things seem to be calming.

Thank you, and that's good news. I can relax a little bit for a while. I think I'm going to do a little posting in other threads that doesn't deal with Yellowstone.

Originally posted by WSPfan

Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
reply to post by WSPfan

 

They(the geologists) said that quake in 04 that created the tsunami 9.5 I think shook the planet so hard , it disturbed the rotation. Imagine what the sizmo gear looked like then.

I know that is just insane. This is the graph for LKWY on 12-25-2004, the day of the tsunami quake. It is INSANE!

Yeah, it must not have been very windy that day either Sorry sarcasm is my weak spot hehe.

It is quiet now yes, but to give up on the interest so soon may not be a good idea. wait at least 27 hours. Watch the water flow charting for the next 3 days for changes.

Originally posted by seasonedherb
But, as it's looking at the moment, things seem to be calming.

Or it could be the Great Inhale before the Great Exhale...

Originally posted by Rocketgirl
I was asking if anyone was sure that Yellowstone wasn't going to erupt anytime soon.

Nobody can be sure based on the limited available data. If anyone claims to be certain of the outcome they are either lying, stupid, self-diluted, or all of the above.

reply to post by pantangele


I have just observed over the last several days that the lake depth and output has risen every time we had tremors or quakes the last few days. It is bellow freezing so there is no reason for the water output to be increasing or staying as high as it is. It is running a lot higher than normal.

Could be the bulge getting bigger and displacing the water.

The Tantalus Creek has suddenly gone down in depth and in water flow.

Mabe there is a blockage or the water is going some place ells.

i am an ignoramus but have seen some movie stuff and in the
movie the HARMONIC PATTERNS in the quake register are very
important in that it indicates moving magma????? not just earthquake
swarms which are not uncommon..now with the other little knows
swarms i don't know..is there something affecting the whole of earth..as
the sun? niburu? if it exists as the Destroyer? They recorded? swarms
off the coast of Oregon lately? think so. I have more questions
than halfwit comments. There there was the swarm in Nevada which
is not unknown. Any scientists out there willing to comment about this?
njl


reply to post by TwiTcHomatic

Originally posted by pantangele
reply to post by MrObserver

 

In layman's terms, describe what that data means? What's happening in the water?

Basically, that's the gauge height, and the flow of water, The creek data gauge is N of the lake,, the Yellowstone River gague is at the sw end of the lake I believe

The Lake Outflow appears unchanged in its upward trend from the historical data

The creek data appears as if something dramatic has happened..

Beavers? Snow/Ice Dam? Ground Deformation? Freezing? Stuck Gauge?

Certainly does look odd there in that creek N of the lake.


Peace

reply to post by MrObserver


Really weird stuff. If anyone has time to compare to historical data, I'd be interested to know how unusual this is. A poster earlier did an excellent job of debunking assumptions about the lake flow by showing how it had precedent. I'd love to see how unique this behavior is. If the lake output continues to rise abnormally I'd certainly love to know why.

A theory on the creek... Maybe the water temperature increased due to the the magma movement and now that it's calmed the water is freezing? That stupid?

Originally posted by MrObserver
I have just observed over the last several days that the lake depth and output has risen every time we had tremors or quakes the last few days. It is bellow freezing so there is no reason for the water output to be increasing or staying as high as it is. It is running a lot higher than normal.

Several other posters have commented that there are hydrothermal vents (hot springs) IN the lake. If this is true, they would be the most likely cause of changing levels and outputs. In order to use water levels and output to estimate deformation below the lake, you would have to measure ALL water input from precipitation, melt water, feeder creeks and rivers, AND any springs below the lake.

EDIT: Something appears to be changing. I just don't think we have enough data to know if the change is from the feeder creeks, springs in the lake, melt water, deformation, or some combination.

[edit on 3-1-2009 by BOTOH]

Originally posted by BOTOH
Several other posters have commented that there are hydrothermal vents (hot springs) IN the lake.

Yes, I've read that a couple of times, but then again, I've also read that the lake is frozen over.

Seems to me the 2 situations are mutually exclusive.

Either there are hot springs in the lake - which heat the water, OR the lake is frozen over. Edges frozen with heated water in the middle is possible, but not frozen over with heated water

I have wandered if the spikes on LKWY are either gas or liquid burst coming up through the lake bottom.

Regarding the creek flow-- you will see a fair correlation with the activity shown by the Lake Mary site which is located just a few miles Southeast of the creek guage. THIS LINK will lead you to the data from the 28th and you can follow the links at the top of the page for succeeding days.
Possibly increased pressure and seismic activity enhanced the spring water flows feeding into the creek.

Hope we can get this figured out in time to still make it to the border!

I saw this posting in response to a news story in the Salt Lake Tribune about the Yellowstone earthquakes--whoever wrote it appears to know what he is talking about

All Geophysical evidence indicates the recent swarm of earthquakes at Yellowstone Park, WY, USA are the result of a much Larger Event. On December 24, at 11:00 AM PST a helicorder began picking up vibrations at Megler WA. These vibrations subsided around Midnight but continued after Christmas Day. Most likely, these anomalous vibrations are caused by the Juan deFuca plate grinding under the Pacific Northwest. Subduction of the Juan deFuca plate off the Northwest US coast tries to force the continent upward. An enormous amount of heat is generated by friction from this process. Heat from this process burns holes through the crust and causes volcanoes to form. This heat source also affects existing magma chambers. Check the recent history of this helicorder at Megler, WA. As the plates grind together friction causes heat and vibration at the surface that is well documented here. The enormous heat from this friction causes Magma chambers to react. Recent studies of the Yellowstone magma chamber indicate that is has migrated from Yellowstone toward the NW. Right now, the "Yellowstone hot spot" is trying to burn a hole though the Beartooth Mountains SW of Red Lodge, MT. Although most attention is given to Yellowstone, Clear Lake California, a similar geothermal feature, is also experiencing earthquake swarms in the days following Christmas. This evidence suggests a much larger event is responsible for the recent seismic activity. Given the timing of the Megler helicorder anomaly, one has to suspect Santa Claus is responsible for these earthquakes. Prior to Santa’s rapid deliveries in North America, vibrations were measured on the Western edge of the continent. One has to ask the question; How much friction does Santa Claus put on the North American continent when making rapid deliveries from east to west? Geophysical evidence from these events indicates friction from Santa’s run may be quite enormous.

Source

delius

[edit on 3-1-2009 by delius]

Originally posted by redhatty
Either there are hot springs in the lake - which heat the water, OR the lake is frozen over. Edges frozen with heated water in the middle is possible, but not frozen over with heated water

That depends on the total volume, depth, and surface area of the lake; volume, temperature, velocity, and depth of the the springs; and air temperature above the lake. Input of hot water could make freezing less likely, but not necessarily impossible. It's REALLY cold up there.

reply to post by delius


OK what does that mean?

Actually, If you look at a 60 day period compared to the 4 day graphs, The dramatic spikes don't look too far from the norm. It does seem to be heading for an unusually low dip though in the flow.
Perhaps even cloudless days where the heat cant be held in affects how much ground/stream water is turned into ice.

Looks like the temperature is dropping steady as well.

waterdata.usgs.gov...

Keep Watching



Peace

[edit on 3-1-2009 by lernmore]