Scores killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza

Originally posted by zerbot565
reply to post by GamerGal

 

i mean,

i do hope you realize that israel has occupied the region for more then 41 years.

defenition by Princeton University 2003

occupy

march aggressively into another's territory by military force for the purposes of conquest and occupation;

just on a side note

on bbc world about 15 mins ago they just stated that israel has broken the cease fire more then 1000 times during the last half year, not hamas.....

Who breaks the ceasefires is a matter for debate.

Both sides have the ability to lie, Hamas exceedingly so.

I do not think we will ever know all the lies and all the truths
involved in what has occured in this part of the world in the
last 1,000 years.

I wonder when this never ending melodrama will come to an end, I cannot believe that any country in the world wants a nuclear war, there maybe a few nihilist dictators who get a hard on from the thought,but generally speaking living and loving have an addictive quality to them, as I am sure most people will agree, no matter how bad it is, we are here for the ride and there is always a few perks to keep things going that way.
I hope the Palestinians smarten up and accept the fact that they have been reconquered by the Israelis, then they might finally get down to sorting out how they can live and prosper together.
The territorial dispute in the area has been going on longer then 2000 years,
sometimes one group is on top sometimes the other, fact is that Jews, Christians and Moslems go way back together in that place, why can,t they live and let live, forget the past, live for now and a positive future for all. Please!!!

reply to post by Ex_MislTech


Palestinians lie? No, never! Wait, a new link to Pallywood! Thanks to the person who found it! www.take-a-pen.org...

reply to post by GamerGal





this is Samera Baalusha and her only surviving child , she lost 4 daughers ages 4-17 in the air raid, i guess IDF dont bomb civilians and this is all just pallywood ...

Originally posted by survivalsurfer
I wonder when this never ending melodrama will come to an end, I cannot believe that any country in the world wants a nuclear war, there maybe a few nihilist dictators who get a hard on from the thought,but generally speaking living and loving have an addictive quality to them, as I am sure most people will agree, no matter how bad it is, we are here for the ride and there is always a few perks to keep things going that way.
I hope the Palestinians smarten up and accept the fact that they have been reconquered by the Israelis, then they might finally get down to sorting out how they can live and prosper together.
The territorial dispute in the area has been going on longer then 2000 years,
sometimes one group is on top sometimes the other, fact is that Jews, Christians and Moslems go way back together in that place, why can,t they live and let live, forget the past, live for now and a positive future for all. Please!!!

It is the Holy dirt, they think they have to own the dirt to be true to
their religion even thou none of the books specifically say the
dirt is Holy and you must kill for it.

The Koran is fairly murderous book though, so I could see them
taking the quotes out of the Koran literally and striking at the necks
of the Infidels.

This is part of the reason one thread here on ATS says Religion must
end to save the world, and another thread says the world must have
religion because it is the great pacifier of the masses.

Some politicians over the millenia have used religion as a tool to
control their ppl, but all in all more have died over some Holy dirt
or Holy belief or Holy crap than I even care to consider.

Religion is just more of the us vs. them mentality that holds back
mankind from being truly great.

reply to post by GamerGal

So you didn't go to any thing posted by the Pro-not killing babies crowd? People like Mrmonsoon and others have provided links to reports and investigations. And again, you'll believe, and go against Eye Witnesses who were there about USS Liberty, but not believe in VIDEO, Eye Witnesses, and Courts on Pallywood?

I am not sure what is the root cause of your obsession with the video you talk about, or why you feel a short video of dubious origins contains some meaningful insight into well documented violations of treaties and thefts of lands and cold blooded murders by Zionists that started occurring decades before and form a significant part of the root causes of the problem whose length spans hundreds of thousands the length of time of the this video you are so obsessed with.

The Liberty incident happened within a context of something identifiable. As did the Zionist terrorism against the lawful U.N. British mandate, the context of your entirely unrelated video is not identifiable. I watch documentaries daily that use staged reenactments of historical events that took place hundreds even thousands of years ago.

I am not under the impression the Christmas morning attack by George Washington’s Continental Army against the Hessian out post in Trenton New Jersey did not happen because there was no real video footage to air.

Meanwhile you don’t even artfully dodge the questions regarding the Zionist terrorism against the British Mandate, fellow Jews, and Arabs that led to the obviously still unresolved disagreement between Jews/Zionists and Arabs but simply choose to ignore it in favor of an agenda of discussing irrelevant and dubious unrelated occurrences.

What ever cause you are championing as a result is unclear, and the effect you are having in pursuing it is simply the preacher, preaching to the choir.

I haven’t seen your repetitive promotion of this video influence any of Israel’s detractors but simply seen its constant promotion be used as a diversionary rallying point for pro-Israeli proponents to avoid the root causes and issues.

Simply put you’re not winning anyone over to your side with it no matter how many times you attempt to club people over the head with it.

I have clearly told you it has no significance in the root causes regarding this long running issue, and its lack of context and authentication further makes it additionally irrelevant.

No one obviously was hurt in that video Palestinian or Israeli, nothing was stolen, no treaties dishonored by it, or anything to make it relevant to the actual issues.

I am sorry that you have so little depth of substance to talk factually to historical and key pivotal events, but your lack of anything relevant, doesn’t make the irrelevant, relevant in that regard.

Are you able to talk to or even often an opinion as to why Zionists waged a terror campaign against the British Mandate, fellow Jews, and Arabs?

reply to post by zerbot565


Proof it isn't more Pallywood? Once they cried wolf when there was no wolf well, now they need to prove there is a wolf. You shouldn't take their word that a wolf is there. You should first see if there are tracks, and if so where they lead before believing there is a wolf.

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reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


And no surprise still refuses to go to any thing about Pallywood! To spend even five seconds on it could educate you and you can't have that can you? Edit, since you believe the Jews control Youtube and therefor anything on there is the devil here is MORE Pallywood proof. www.take-a-pen.org...

[edit on 29-12-2008 by GamerGal]

Originally posted by zerbot565
reply to post by GamerGal

 

this is Samera Baalusha and her only surviving child , she lost 4 daughers ages 4-17 in the air raid, i guess IDF dont bomb civilians and this is all just pallywood ...

I believe you totally.

It is sad the children were used by Hamas as human shields.

Hamas LOVES to sit rocket launchers near targets they can use
for sympathy warfare.

They have been doing it for years, it is not a secret.

It is the same crap Saddam pulled in Iraq.

It is the old muslim pity strategy.

Well it works for awhile, but once you start lobbing rockets into
cities and killing ppl the pity party is over.

And everyone on here wonders why the Palestinians and Israelis cant get along. Just look at this thread...case in point. Good night.

reply to post by zerbot565


Could be child abuse?

All I see is a picture with no other information.

reply to post by Ex_MislTech

I admit it is a damn shame that Hamas has to use its own ppl as human shields and lots of them end up killed for it, but that was
their choice.

Where is it you would like Hamas to go to fight when 1.3 million people have been herded and imprisoned in a geographical area roughly twice the size of Washington D.C.

The Gaza strip is one of the most densely populated pieces of land on earth. It was the Israelis who confined the Palestinians to such a small tract of land through violation of U.N. Mandates, accords and treaties in their own terrorist actions.

It’s nice that you like to hope that ignorance might enable some shock effect be had in such condemnations, but the reality is what is condemning is that 1.3 million people who once had free range of the entire geographical land mass that comprises greater Israel prior to a Zionist terror campaign to steal the land and run off the Arab indigenous population occurred to so confine and imprison them.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


What's the population of D.C.? Second, they could go to Egypt... Wait, even Egypt doesn't want them.

reply to post by GamerGal


dont know about tracking wolves in gaza or maine but i guess there aint many there, on the other hand here in the arctic they can be viewed and tracked quite frequent, we have a pack of around 20 living a few km from here where i live ,

if some one shouts wolf we pick out our cameras and try to get em on a photo.

that picture is from last nights raid published in a dailypaper in sweden equelent of washington post, ny times, sydney morning herald , ..

but i have yet faild to see your logic in israel being the one under attack when they are the one on an other mans soil.

reply to post by GamerGal

And no surprise still refuses to go to any thing about Pallywood! To spend even five seconds on it could educate you and you can't have that can you? Edit, since you believe the Jews control Youtube and therefor anything on there is the devil here is MORE Pallywood proof.

I have so clearly told you what I believe. That the root of this problem stems from the early 1900's through the mid 1900's. Neither YouTube nor the video you keep referring to was in existence or in play, or the events supposedly depicted in the video.

I have asked you numerous times what your position is on the root Zionist terrorism carried out against lawful British authorities and the British Mandate.

I have asked you numerous times what your position is on the Zionist terrorism that occurred against fellow Jews during the British Mandate.

I have asked you numerous times what your position is on Zionist terrorism against Arabs during the British Mandate.

I have asked you numerous times what your position is on Zionist theft of the lands not promised to them under the British Mandate.

I have asked you numerous times what your position is on the lack of compensation to Arabs for Zionist confiscated lands through terrorism not promised them in the British Mandate.

To date you have failed to answer, so I will assume you have no opinion or feel to inadequately educated to speak on these subjects.

reply to post by jam321


link to original story

hi , child abuse indeed,

ok a quick translation ,

Samera Baalusha was awokend but the roof falling down and lost 5 of her daughters ( seams i was to quick and understood it as 4)

blah blah blah 37 year old Anwar Baalusha searched throu the ruins and found her 5 daughters buried and dead ,


blah blah blah
neighbours hepled to pull us out of the rubble

then at the end 345 killed and out of thouse where 57 civilians and atleast 21 children


then it goes on about swedes and norwegians being in gaza and that they are trying to reach em for possible flights home


edit now you have context to the picture , sorry for being to quick and not putting the cat on the table when the dinner started

[edit on 29-12-2008 by zerbot565]

reply to post by GamerGal

What's the population of D.C.? Second, they could go to Egypt... Wait, even Egypt doesn't want them.

The population of Washington D.C. is 650,000 people, half the population of the Gaza strip.

Egypt has no obligation to take the Palestinians, Israel has an obligation to withdraw from the lands it stole through terrorism and return to the borders set forth for Jewish immigrants to Palestine as put forth under the United Nations British Mandate and numerous United Nations resolutions condemning Israel for violating the Mandate and numerous subsequent resolutions. The Palestinians have a larger homeland that is being illegally occupied by Jewish immigrants to Palestine. That is why they are having rockets lobbed at them.

Zionist terrorism is the root of the problem. Jews are occupying lawfully recognized Palestinian lands illegally.

That is no other nations responsibility to redress it is the obligation of Jews to abide by the treaties.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Once again, as I and others have told you, Zionist means some one who believes Israel has the right to exist. So stop using it as a bad word, unless you really do believe the Jews don't have the right to exist. Second, Palestinians attack Israel, Israel fights back. That's not terrorism, that's COUNTER attacking an enemy.

reply to post by zerbot565

A Palestinian girl whose family members were killed yesterday in Gaza: "I say Hamas is the cause of all wars."

A Palestinian girl whose family members was killed yesterday in Gaza after an Israeli air attack was interviewed today on Palestinian TV and placed the blame for the war on Hamas:

newsblaze.com...

video link

www.youtube.com...

Didn't mean nothing negative, you just left pic open to interpretation.

reply to post by jam321


nah nothing negative ,

that must be the family across the street then to thouse who lost the daughers then or was the whole block taken out this time

what puzzles me the most is that they have all the hashish in the world down there and no one sits down and tokes afew and talks things over a cup of tea

talk about idiots