Scores killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza

It would seem many people have never heard of



USS Liberty

and how, twice , the admiral of the CBG was ordered by first his commander then by the president NOT to assist the attack on a US warship by Israel - for over an hour , even when teh ship was identified by ISrael - they carried on.


and yet the USA still supports israel even though they have shown they WILL kill those who bank roll them.

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Israel know they cant be touched
they have the US in their pockets

They can kill and attack Americans

Spy on them

Take Weapons systems and then redesign and then sell them on making a profit.

Israel have it made.

Link to my thoughts on this issue

Stop blaming Israel and Palestine. It is the decisions made by outsiders to the situation that has gotten the world into this mess. It's time to confront these people who front for those who really make the decisions. Maybe the Bush administration was right in granting themselves immunity. I wouldn't be satisfied with prosecuting a puppet.

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Unfortunately it is turning into a snowball rolling down a hill and only getting bigger by the hour. Iran is preparing to send in assistance, Israel is going to step up its operations, Hamas will continue to launch their rockets deeper into Israel, the civilian populaition in Gaza is trapped, the civilian populations in Israel face Hamas attacks.

Its going to get worse before it gets any better.




Cheers!!!!!

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You remain neutral if you wish, most people are appalled by the current atrocity being conducted by Israel on Palestine.

ooops! reread your post mistook your fairness as neutrality.

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That is a Merkava 4 MBT , that is the turret armour breached completely and was hit by a Russian RPG-7VR , in use by Hamas

Its also said Hezbollah also have the much more dangerous and feared RPG-29 the same round used in Iraq to mobility kill the Abrams M1A2 and the Challenger 2.

They also have the TBG-7V , 105mm Thermobaric load.

i know that its most gruesome - and in the 1991 Paris arishow the USA were trying to sell the Apache as `battle proven` even before GW1 was over , but after 2006 - Russia has been selling the RPG7 range and RPG-29 range as battle proven against the latest western armour.

And people have been buying them up - since even brand new they weigh in under $3,000 (and can be bought in the sand box for under $1k)

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Ya that put a fairly good dent into it for sure. As I was saying, this mess is only going to get worse before it gets any better.



Cheers!!!!!

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So, you freely admit, Hamas terrorists are well armed from their Iranian master.

You also admit that they only want weapons, not food or medicine.

Hamas has fired rockets today and killed another jew.

Doesn't this mean IDF should send it's ground forces blazing in??

Hamas is waiting eagerly for IDF 'special forces' to blaze in.

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And guess what? After the Palestinian fired a missile that costs tens of thousands of dollars... They complained about being hungry. Then they loaded another missile... instead of buying food.

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Maybe you want to ask The powers that closed the damn border WHY they won`t let the UN food and medical trucks INTO gaza.

Originally posted by poet1b At the very least, Egypt could let the women and children escapse from the area that is about to now become a battle zone. That is what Egypt should do, and the world should be putting pressure on them to do just that. There is no reason to leave the women and chilren in a battle zone when there is a way for them to escape.

I find this a very bizarre statement.

Why doesn't Israel simply open up the checkpoints and let the women and children move from one part of their HOME COUNTRY to another safer part?

As a show of good faith, how about opening up Tel Aviv to a few refugees?

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You mean Egypt? Yeah, I wondered why they closed off their border to Gaza to. The Palestinians don't fire rockets at them so why would they need to block the border and keep the UN out?

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WOW really - egypt HUH - your agenda is so transparent now - the Egyptians don`t point GUNS at the UN and RED CROSS - thats ISrael

the Egyptians allow inspection of its nucalera reactors - the last time the IAEA tried to go near Dimona , a TANK stopped them.

so please stop making it out that the zionists are a shining beacon - they are most cetainly not.

and go read about the USS LIBERTY please.

There is so many factors that are tied in to this Palestinian/Israel conflict that I don't know how one single side here can be called at fault. My hope is that this two sides can get together and find a way to coexist.

This issue stop been about Israel and Palestine alone a long time ago and now they just merely pawns in a game of geopolitical dominance by other countries and market (primerely oil) distabilization.

It saddens me for both sides, for the people of Israel and for the people of Palestine, many of them won't know what the meaning or feeling of peace would be during their lives while the puppet master keep playing their games behind the scenes, and while all this happens Israelis and Palestinians would keep doing what they do best to each other, kill one another.

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Egypt apparently blocked off their boarder because of the onrush of civilians trying to escape the onslaught of Israel's attacks.

And as far as the food goes, the civilians cant get any of that food or make Hamas buy it when Hamas controls the money. Plus no one can get any food supplies in because of Israel's blockade, both land and sea, leaving the civilians completely helpless and trapped. Its just some of that reality we spoke about in your pallywood thread.



Cheers!!!!

[edit on 29-12-2008 by RFBurns]

Any one who doesn`t aggree with Israel or its policies or supporters are automatically labeled as `anti-semitic` and are remineded , hourly , of the tragedy in WW2 ; well i ask this


how often are we reminded of the holocaust in russia? or in Dafur? or in fact of the many millions slaughtered around the world?


or it is that we should pity the zionists in Israel for not aallowing the young to grow in there own culture and identity?

Israel IS a culturally rich country - and with many many beutifual sights - and yet everyone is reminded of the suffering 70 years ago , constantly.


the German young want to be remembered for the downing of the Berlin wall and thfreeing and unity of a country oppressed for 4 years - instead the young are demeaned by the constant reminded of what happened in WW2 - there is a time to remeber and a time for rememberance ;

there is remberence in Bosnia , in Russia and in Dafur - but they don`t live on it - the events are remembered and will nver be forgotton but they don`t make it the entire existance and don`t let the people grow.


so i ask , what do the zionist leaders in Israel want to live in the past and not look to the future for the sake of there own people? why do they constantly remind everyone what happened, all the time?

and 1 final thought - Menachem Begin

he was teh commander of the Irgun and responsible for attrocities like the King David Hotel boming , the Deir Yassin massacre and the murder of many british officers and troops.

and he lead Israel as Prime Minister , can`t really say many civilised countries put terrorists to lead them.

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Thank you!!!!

GG those civilians cant do a thing with Hamas controlling the funds and flow as well as Israel blockiing off every access point and port. There is no way they can do anything about their stuck in the middle with you scenario.



Cheers!!!!

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So.. Egypt also doesn't want the Palestinians. But its ok for them to be that way but not Israel? Even though Egypt has no reason to hate them since they don't attack Egypt all the time.