Scores killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza

reply to post by poet1b
The dood obviously needs sleep. I repeatedly told them Britain has a pop of 60 million but they wouldn't have it, defo seven million lol according to them!

Originally posted by commodore64

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

You do a great job of distorting the facts and jumping to amazing conclusions with no proof to back them up, but all you express is opinion.

Where do I come to my conclusions about Mohammad?

Here is the result of a quick google search.

www.bibleprobe.com...

Wow..just wow...you can not solve deep historical problems which can not be reduced to simple "facts" through "quick google search". I recommend you to reflect on the history of all religions, of all crimes of all pantheist religions (including yours). If you use such an arrogant and ignorant argumantation, such as bush and his team did, you will only gain more enemies and we all will fall to a ceazy war. why people can not see that things are always much more complicated than they think? Are you so lazy?

As non of those here actually knew Muhammad, what else is there to do than Google ?
According to my Google search, he was a nice chap :

diplomat, merchant, philosopher

Wikipedia

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LOL, yepper, maybe we can solve the problems of the world next year.

Sorry for the one liner.

reply to post by flymetothemoon


Clearly Mohammad was a man of his time. I would say that Mohammad was a great man. Like all great men, he did questionable things. To pretend differently is just not smart.

reply to post by poet1b
Yeah right. All roads lead to Iran?
Talking of Iran, BBC reporting an Israeli just been killed in Ashkelon. Missile fired from Gaza a Grad type. Now that's a very serious escalation by Hamas. Grad is an Iranian missile. I really think Hamas are going to force Israel to go in on the ground if they use Iranian Grads.

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the way I see it going with the use of those Iranian missles it this.

1.)Israel invades gaza due to the use of the New Missles

2.) Israel finds proof they are Iranian&are comming from Iran

3.) Israel goes at Hizbollah for possibly smuggling in those Missles from iran

4.) Israel goes after Iran....



everyday I wake up it gets weirder&I see its starting to show the other elements in this besides Hamas.

The ironic thing about all this is that the deaths attributed to the rocket attacks are put at about 40 in the past seven years. That's an average of 5 or 6 deaths a year. Now, I'm pretty sure the murder rate (Israelis murdering other Israelis) and deaths from imported illegal drugs are both considerably higher. If the Zionists want to whinge about the Palestinian rocket attacks being terroristic or cowardly, then perhaps the Palestinians should be given a few billion in top grade Russian/Chinese hardware and training. Most Zionists seem aghast that the Palestinians would do anything other then pull their pants down and bend over the barrel and cop it from their Israeli oppressors. Typical.

reply to post by ufoorbhunter


the BM-21 `Grad` is a soviet-era designed road mobile MLRS , and is in use with over 50 countries - including egypt, syria , china , North Korea and yes iran (even israel have some)

nearly 40,000 have been made so really pinning it as `iranian` is a little far fetched since you can buy them on ebay.

and theres ex-iraqi army ones on the right markets as well.

some of the BM-21 systems actually have a range of up to 40km`s and able to fire a battery in 20 seconds , the unbiguous `sqare mile removal service`

www.nrg.co.il...

www.haaretz.co.il...

Originally posted by lunarminer
Based on the reporting that we got a few years ago in the Israeli actions against Hezbollah. I will wait until the smoke clears and the facts can be seen.

Remember a few years ago when there were pictures of people killed in an Israeli airstrike? Then a few pictures later the people who were laying around "dead" were up and running around. We learned later that the Reuters photographer staged the pics.

Then as if that wasn't enough there were those Photoshopped pics of an Israeli missile striking in the middle of a group of people running through a vacant lot. Later, we learn that the pics were fake.

Then we found out that the International Red Cross was hauling arms and rockets to the front for Hezbollah. They said that they had to do it, or Hezbollah would not allow them to continue their "humanitarian mission".

So, this time around, I'll wait and see.

Links please! This is just more Pallywood and I would love links you have for it! But do worry about the ones who want all Jews dead, any mention of Pallywood and they will come after you.

LOL - i have already shown that Richard Landes has direct links to Jeruslem Post with his close and personal association with Ruthie Blumm - but you carry on as if he and his work are the `next coming` and gospel.....

www.state.gov...


as i have allready shown , twice , saudia arabia are the prime funding for hamas ( which out of the world only 3.8% say there terroist - more countries rate the same of israel at 4.9%)

1 persons terrorist is anothers freedom fighter - look at the 1970`s when people in the USA funded weapons and bombs for the IRA through NORAID.

how do you fire 80 rockets and kill only one person?sounds like a setup to me,now israel have an excuse to carry out what they need to do,kill hundreds of innocents possibly thousands by the time they finish.

First, go ahead and insult me as much as you want. Until you have more then insults it just shows I'm right. If you had anything other then insults you would use them. Second, keep ignoring videos, eye witnesses, and photoshopped pictures. Just because you want to live in ignorance doesn't mean I or others do. So far every one who has watched the documentary and read the information I linked to have agreed. You on the other hand have admitted that you won't watch it or read any thing that might change your views. Edit to add, Harlequin it isn't his video, or his word, it is VIDEO, actual video, and him showing it. Him going to court and proving he is correct. And not just him but eye witnesses reporting "dead" children getting in to position for the next photo.

[edit on 29-12-2008 by GamerGal]

The fact that so many posters on these anti-Israel threads have a hard time not mentioning Jews, or that Israel is a Jewish state makes many of us question your true motives for posting here. If Israel were populated by Greek Orthodox, Catholics or Lutherans, would we see so many inflamed posts? Would we see so many posts at all?

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GG,

Remember, in compation debate, when one side has no more facts, they go onto personal attacks.

When this happens, the judge make a mark from one upper cornor to lower cornor indsicating non-debate, persoanal attack and it is an automatic loss.

My point being, the more people that make personal insults at you (besides being TAC violatiions) they are telling you directly, you are correct and they cannot counter your points/facts.

Basicly they are telling you you are correct.

Personal insulting people aside, keep posting the truth and facts to back it.
I for one have enjoyred all yoiur links to news and video's.

Some even I was not awear of-I am so impressed.

Don't ever allow some peoples ignorance to stop the truth, you rock.

Originally posted by centurion1211
The fact that so many posters on these anti-Israel threads have a hard time not mentioning Jews, or that Israel is a Jewish state makes many of us question your true motives for posting here. If Israel were populated by Greek Orthodox, Catholics or Lutherans, would we see so many inflamed posts? Would we see so many posts at all?

Yup you sure would. As I have pointed it its not only Israel we need to reevaluate our support for but Saudi Arabia also. Israel however is a bigger issue. They have much deeper ties and spies in our government and defense agencies. The idea we have Israeli dual citizens in our government and no other country should be enough to ask questions.

wanted to Post this for awhile

lets take Nazi propergand against Jews

www.ushmm.org...

There were several audiences for Nazi propaganda. Germans were reminded of the struggle against foreign enemies and Jewish subversion. During periods preceding legislation or executive measures against Jews, propaganda campaigns created an atmosphere tolerant of violence against Jews, particularly in 1935 (before the Nuremberg Race Laws of September) and in 1938 (prior to the barrage of antisemitic economic legislation following Kristallnacht). Propaganda also encouraged passivity and acceptance of the impending measures against Jews, as these appeared to depict the Nazi government as stepping in and “restoring order.”

Real and perceived discrimination against ethnic Germans in east European nations which had gained territory at Germany's expense following World War I, such as Czechoslovakia and Poland, was the subject of Nazi propaganda. This propaganda sought to elicit political loyalty and so-called race consciousness among the ethnic German populations. It also sought to mislead foreign governments -- including the European Great Powers -- that Nazi Germany was making understandable and fair demands for concessions and annexations.

couple of tweeks

and we have the following

There were several audiences for Israeli propaganda. Israelis were reminded of the struggle against foreign enemies and Muslimsubversion. During periods preceding legislation or executive measures against Muslims, propaganda campaigns created an atmosphere tolerant of violence against Muslims, particularly (before the palestinian intifada) and in 2006 (prior to the barrage of Islamaphobia economic legislation ). Propaganda also encouraged passivity and acceptance of the impending measures against Palestinians, as these appeared to depict the Israeli government as stepping in and “restoring order.”

Real and perceived discrimination against ethnic Palestinians in Gaza and west bank which had gained territory at Israels's expense following six day war, such as Golan heights and Palestinian territory , was the subject of Israeli propaganda. This propaganda sought to elicit political loyalty and so-called race consciousness among the ethnic Israeli populations. It also sought to mislead foreign governments -- including the European Great Powers -- that Jewish Israel was making understandable and fair demands for concessions and annexations.


everything we get from Israel and most people about Israel
has been spoken by Nazis before and while they were slaugtering Jews
History has a funny way of repeating its self

www.ushmm.org...
library.thinkquest.org...
www.calvin.edu...

quick google search on Nazi properganda on Jews on google.
and we can easily relate them to what israel is doing and the way some people defend the actions.




[edit on 29-12-2008 by bodrul]

reply to post by poet1b


You are just plain ridiculous.

Israel is no friend of the United States. Israel is not "full of good people" no matter how much you wish it were.

When some members are done with nothing more than tripe, we can get back to the topic at hand.

The topic is the "COUNTER" attack that the Hamas are receiving after all their constant attacks.

It does strike me as oddly funny that some people cry about the "RESPONCE" ton the Hamas attacks, yet think the attacks that caused the counter attacks are ok.

It is just so simple..................

If Hamas attacks, they will get counter attacks that they completely deserve.

If the Hamas "DON'T" attack, they will not receive counter attacks.

It amazes me that certain members, being in England, supports the raining of rockets and mortars on civilians, like Germany did in WW2.

I bet if anyone lived through the German blitz, they would NEVER support the same kind of attacks, targeting civilians as Hamas has does.