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Scores killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza

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posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by infinite
reply to post by RFBurns
 


With all due respect, the timeline is extremely bias. It misses at some key dates; A Middle East conference in London in which all sides agreed to peace.


Well it certianly is not as far off as GG's hand written timeline is it?

That is the point. I have found other timelines that also show discrepancies as well. But at least I linked to one that containes alot more than just selected few to support a post.



Cheers!!!!



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 08:14 AM
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Sorry GG, your too slow and I didnt edit anything as you can clearly see. and as anyone else can see by simply comparing the two.

Try again.



Cheers!!!!



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 08:21 AM
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Whatever the arguments that continue raging about who did what when and to whom ,concern should be with now.If Israel launches a ground invasion against Gaza we in the West will all pay with terrorist attacks.
The moral abhorrance of launching a ground attack against people you have starved and deprived goes without saying.
Do you really think the world is going to applaud the Israelis for this?

Right now thousands of people are preparing to die and you talk about fake you tube videos and timelines.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by candyfloss

Whatever the arguments that continue raging about who did what when and to whom ,concern should be with now.If Israel launches a ground invasion against Gaza we in the West will all pay with terrorist attacks.
The moral abhorrance of launching a ground attack against people you have starved and deprived goes without saying.
Do you really think the world is going to applaud the Israelis for this?

Right now thousands of people are preparing to die and you talk about fake you tube videos and timelines.


Ya all im gonna talk about is someone's insistance on youtube videos making the case for all news footage showing dead kids and adults being faked. Why shouldnt I or anyone else. It is reality, a sad, sick and unfortuante dark side of humanity right there in our faces. Welcome to the real world.

And the timelines are vital to understanding what the hell is going on over there. If you dont want to see that well then thats your unfortuante loss because like it or not, it IS a historical record of why things are happeing in the middle east.

Reality sucks..doesnt it.




Cheers!!!!



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 08:39 AM
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"You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it" - General William Tecumseh Sherman.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 08:46 AM
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posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 08:56 AM
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posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 08:57 AM
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reply to post by GamerGal
 


i have 1 picture for you , since a picture says 1000 words.



`hamas terrorists at a rally`

wearing a star of david .

edit to upload picture to my ats space.

[edit on 28/12/08 by Harlequin]



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by t0ken
IDF cowards on the grounds are crapping their pants because they really don't wana enter gaza.

Yes ! You're absolutely right. Many of the israelien solders maby don't want to be there. But they have to, cause it's their duty. Behind the uniforms, many of them are young blokes with family. Likes to read books, listen to music and have girlfriends. What do you espect ? Rambo ?



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 09:14 AM
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Isnt it interesting that the innocent side has to wear full face coverings...alot like how typical hood thugs do.

Intriquing.




Cheers!!!!



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 10:03 AM
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Hezbollah is threatening to open up a 2nd front, according to this article. Not good...


Hizbullah terrorists have vowed to open a second front against Israel in the north in retaliation for the IDF military operation against Hamas terrorists in Gaza.

Terrorist chief Hassan Nasrallah issued a statement on Hizbullah's Al-Manar television station Sunday, vowing that "northern Israel will burn as Gaza is burning." Nasrallah rarely appears in person; he speaks via a video hook-up from his hideout due to fears of assassination by Israeli agents, following the 2006 Second Lebanon War.


Source

To add, Turkey and Syria have cut off all indirect negotiatons. The Israeli FM Livni has said "I reject calls for Israel-Hamas truce - Hamas is a terror group" and the IAF has been seen circling around southern Lebanon, where sonic booms have been heard at times. Egypt is reporting Gazans breaching the border and crossing into Egypt.

Meanwhile, the IDF has been massing tanks and reservists near the Gaza strip all day long.

Also, here's a link to the live interview with Livni, which sortof confirms the ground incursion.

Livni interview

[edit on 28-12-2008 by Mammoth]



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
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Proto, the Jews had been moving into the land already. They didn't select the borders. They didn't choose how the land was divided.


In regards to the rest of your statement all I can suggest to you is those that live by the sword typically die by it too.



And that my friend is exactly why no Arab nation will stand against Israel.
Israel does not live by the sword. They are a productive and industrious people that would rather build up than destroy. Israel transformed a worthless desolate land into what is now lush and productive land. Land that could have been used for farming was covered in weeds under the Palestinians and Arabs feet long before it was given to Israel. Israel built schools, hospitals, factories, irrigation, and gave many Arabs higher paying jobs than their own countries ever gave them. They even offered to give Arabs refugee status and take care of them and their families if they had lived in the new Israeli state for 2 or more years prior to the UN resolution. They offered to take care of them for life. But no, that was not good enough. They wanted to live like Desert rats because they were greedy and hateful towards Jews.

We don't say all Muslims are terrorists either. But any Muslim that believes that killing women for infidelity, adultery or prostitution is justified, then they are also terrorists and we want nothing to do with them.

The Palestinians should suck it up and get along. Then they will find out how generous Israel is and how much better their lives will be.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:03 AM
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I think you do not know much about the infrastructure damages made by the allied forces and partizants in Nazi/German controlled areas/countries durin the WWII. the whole thing was very good organization Germans with repairing those - they use the slaveworkors to do so. and about one of the cases you can read - try to find MIchniow case. whole polish city murdered cause of the destroing the railways.

and if we talk about Slavs not protecting the Jews during war, I have to say I get bloody angry. it is because 2 brothers of my grandpa has lost their lifes by hiding the jewish family. so please do not tell me how it was. I think I know pretty well.

sorry for being rude, but belive me I get pretty angry sometimes when I hear the sentences like "concentration camps were in Poland"!!



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:04 AM
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I am looking very closely at the pic; I see something, but not a Star of David.

I ask all the amazing people on ATS to work on the picture so we can all see what is REALLY around his neck.

Btw, it would not surprise me for terrorists to do that.

Once they strip out of their green suicide clothes, only for camera’s, that way they could try to hide or make their way into Israel to kill and murder as Hamas always do.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by RogerT

Originally posted by dooper
Whether you like Gamergirl or not, she certainly posted the proof that the Palestinians fake a lot of their suffering.

Or did you guys watch them?

I doubt it.

Palestinian apologists for a group of murdering bastards.


Yet another poster who has no idea of the life of the average Palestinian.

'Palestinians fake a lot of their suffering' - quite a revolting and utterly compassionless statement.

Spend a week in Palestine and get yourself a heart!


Exposing Pallywood TV for the fake it is has nothing to do with compassion. We know their are Palestinians that do not support the Hamas terrorist gov. and are not part of terrorist activities. We do have compassion for those people who want to live in peace and who teach their children not to hate Jews.

But the terrorists bring it on themselves and their country by hearts filled with nothing but hatred. The terrorists are the ones who cause their own people all the grief.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:14 AM
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If we were to do this to the Gaza strip we would be condemned by the United Nations immediatly yet they have done nothing to stop this genocide. I am a right wing bible believing gun toting republican and like so many of my brethren we can tell the difference between right and wrong. These attacks are an outrage...If the palestinians of any group was doing this to a jewish minority we would be sending arms and aid to them...the united nations would be calling for troops and demand a cease fire. Why is nothing happening?..European guilt that lingers over allowing the holocaust? Fear of all things arabic? or is the simple fact that israel has a pretty powerful military and is simply put not afraid to use it against ANY threat they percieve to be against them.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by Runningtobabylon
Ok il reframe that
Please do not mention that "Pallywood" crap again because it has nothing to do with anything in this thread
reverting all off your arguments to it is making you look like a fool and really, really making you look stupid
Just a heads up


Fools don't reveal the truth or unmask lies. That is the work of the prudent who love truth and are diligent enough to reveal it to fools.

Pallywood will be brought up everytime it is needed to wake up the sleeping sheeple.

Just a heads up.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:33 AM
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as have i exposed israel propaganda - that picture is of IDF soldiers pretending to be hamas - the star of david gives it away that he`s jewish not muslim.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:34 AM
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This will not start WW3. During the so called truce over the last year, Hamas has fired over 1,000 rockets into Israel. Over 300 since the truce expired one week ago. Some rocket pads were positioned in civilian areas. I say Israel has waited too long. If Mexico or Canada was firing rockets into the USA we would take them out immediatly. Everyone is so worried about upsetting the Muslim world. SO WHAT! Take them out Isreal. I know I would. The civilians are complicit if thdy allow the rocket pads to be set up in their neighborhoods.



posted on Dec, 28 2008 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Equinox99
reply to post by GamerGal
 


Your post is truly sad. How bias you can be towards other nations when they are not the only ones doing this. Christians have led crusades in killing countless amount of peoples yet the US led crusades against Muslim nations is acceptable?

Look you speaking about killing a lot of people for the countless few that provoked these actions. At least when the US invaded they still tried to help as many people by providing food and aid. Israel has blocked off Gaza completely The Palestinian innocent people see no incentives in giving help to Israel because in return they will not be promised safety or food.

There are other ways to deal with these situations. Israel is going about it in the wrong manner.


What does past crusades have to do with what is happening today. None of us had anything to do with that. What kind of a cheap shot argument is that you are pulling? This is not about past crusades led by the Catholic church. Don't lump Christianity together with Catholics and blame all of us for what they did.

We are not speaking about killing millions of people. We advocate only taking out the "dead from the shoulders up" terrorists who abuse their children by teaching them the ways of hatred and war, and those cowards who use children as human shields. The videos are posted, did you watch them? Or do you just swagger into a thread without reading before you start spewing false accusations?



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