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Originally posted by Irish M1ck
reply to post by MikeboydUS
What do you mean? How do things really operate?
You really give me more credit than I deserve.
It is really sad how people will blindly follow. It is not wrong to question, just follow blindly and everything will be ok. How sad.
...so if I do not reply it is not because I am hiding from any of you...
Originally posted by -zeropoint-
Stop spamming your own damn thread, desperate child. There's no threat to be warning and fear-mongering about, stop such non-sense. I really thought Americans were more realistic and mature in their conduct, it just seems that it's the neocons who can't accept what is, we've found our problem. The minute I saw it was coming from a rightest Republican, I knew it was meaningless. Stop producing fear-mongering negative energy, the man isn't inaugurated yet for Pete's living sake.
Originally posted by MikeboydUS
Well for one the office of the President is not absolute. Anyone who is President has to learn how to work with the massive bureaucracy made up of the various departments and agencies of the Executive branch. If they don't they can get burnt politically. This is especially true of the Defense Department and the defense industries that support it. Presidents learn to compromise, quid pro quo, and basically how Realpolitik functions.
Originally posted by MrWendal
I will ask you the same 2 questions I asked you so many pages back that you have blatantly ignored....
Why would we have to create something that already exist?
Why would something Community Service related need to be funded and trained as well as the US Military?
Originally posted by NobodiesClone63
reply to post by Mean Red Spider
Now in all fairness, Bush supported and guaranteed US citizens the right to bare arms. With Semi automatic weapons legal you can't really say otherwise. There are a plethora of unregistered illegal weapons on the streets of America, that to me is the real issue at hand.
Stiff gun laws aren't the enemy. If the govt really is going to fund "civilian militias" then the threat isn't them taking our guns from us, it is more than likely irresponsible gun owners who are unhappy with the established order in which our government operates. (sometimes rightfully so, other times not so much.)
Gun laws here in the states really aren't that stiff when you compare it to Australia or other countries.
I think a more reasonable solution to a civilian militia would be to first clean our streets of the illegal weapons and ensure responsible gun ownership. If that were done then I could honestly say that there would be no domestic threat big enough for us to have a civilian militia.
Originally posted by Sahabi
Great post and great find. It is true that a private security force is what Hitler used to gain absolute power... for crying out loud Saddam did it too!
Too all of you guys calling everyone a fear monger, and saying this type of thing could never happen... I guess the American Civil War never happened, and Hitler's rise to power must be a propaganda by the Jews?
If Obama was doing such a great call for a reduction of military spending, why would he want to make a Civilian Security Force as equally strong as the U.S. Military? Please answer this question in a logical way, and without the insults.
Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
Well, if this does infact happen... try convincing the uneducated balck person on the street about what Obama has done to the country.
I'll make an estimate... Ask any 100 black Americans on the street if they know anything about Facsism.
Think About it... Obama even wants a 'civilian military force'. Who do you think these people will be? Obviously anyone who needs a job.
Blacks will line up to get a 'police' job... and they will love it. They will do anything to support Obama. Even if it means destroying the country... They will always remember the fact that slavery took place. So they will feel impowered by Obama and feel as if they have finally changed the Country.
Get ready for something... that's all I know... I don't believe what I just wrote, but I can see the fact that most black people will pledge their allegience to Obama no matter what he decides. (Jst because he's black)
[edit on 10-11-2008 by Doomsday 2029]