Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

Originally posted by Lethil
pffft America or Britain can take no moral high ground in this,they are responsible for a million deaths...and now they try to dictate what Russia can or cannot do? please....I hope Russia doesn't bow to this sheer hypocrisy

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Russia/Soviet Union has their share too. Remember the invasion of Afghanistan??

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Rice shows concern for the Georgian people who were injured in this conflict

Go Russia! Georgia attacks and is spanked! Go Russia, teach nations not to attack what they can not kill.

Or should Russia had waited for Moscow to burn before responding?

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Nice catch.

The map from Li ve Maps is very good, it even shows that Igoyeti is not 20km from Tbilisi.

What happened to Medvedev's withdrawl?poland is getting involved?Ukraine?USA fighters in the war zone??did i read this correctly? is this a cartoon script ? This is just getting crazy! LOOK WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR WORLD!, is it just me,or are we all on a bus being driven by wyle-coyote!!









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Originally posted by asen_y2k
Russia/Soviet Union has their share too. Remember the invasion of Afghanistan??

It's not entirely correct to weigh on Russia the bad decisions made by Soviet leaders of yore. While the war in Afghanistan is now being sold to Russians as an almost legitimate affair around its borders, still, it's not quite fair to evoke actions of a state that really ceased to exist. If I take it to the extreme, I can blame Mongolians for genocide perpetrated centuries ago, against Russians.

Originally posted by asen_y2k

Originally posted by Lethil
pffft America or Britain can take no moral high ground in this,they are responsible for a million deaths...and now they try to dictate what Russia can or cannot do? please....I hope Russia doesn't bow to this sheer hypocrisy

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Russia/Soviet Union has their share too. Remember the invasion of Afghanistan??

Yes but that was two decades ago and Russia was in a very differnet place to now,the bias and disgusting rhetoric coming from western countries is sickening...i literally dont even watch the news anymore,i much prefer ATS to get my info in this situation...the BBC disgusts me more than it does usually.

Breaking:

President Bush says Russia's actions in Georgia are "completely unacceptable."

Says Condoleezza Rice to visit Brussels next week for talks on crisis.

- Sky News TV (Reuters)


Mm. Keep stoking that fire, Dubya.

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Sounds like WW3 pretty soon or a new cold war, when anything can heat up to a full war

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I don't know if anyone heard these rumors yet,but U.S is starting a war effort.
preparing for the unthinkable "WW3" the government flooded the steel mills with contracts last weekend. Like when they started the War Effort in for WW2

Why are people acting as if another world war (or even cold war) would be the coolest thing to happen?

What's the problem with peace?

Originally posted by ArMaP
Why are people acting as if another world war (or even cold war) would be the coolest thing to happen?

What's the problem with peace?

Peace is boring...haven't you heard?

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Nothing wrong with peace,but remember this is ATS

Originally posted by ArMaP
Why are people acting as if another world war (or even cold war) would be the coolest thing to happen?

What's the problem with peace?

Peace doesn't get Halliburton BILLIONS in Tax Payer Dollars. So the GOP is doing its best to start more wars just in case Obama wins.

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Exactly, ArMaP.

Peace is boring until you're laying there with your legs blown off bleeding to death and the last thing you see is war crimes against your beloved family before you die a horrible death. Yep. Peace is boring.

Originally posted by Rentor
Russia forces are about less then 70 miles away from Turkey border

A little bit further but only a few hundred kilometres from Norther Iraq and Iran!

Good point, not being discussed much!

AnIncreasininglyWorriedElf

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Are you talking to me, ArMaP?

(OK, that was my Robert De Niro Taxi impersonation).

Really, though, I'd never 'look forward' to anything like that. It would be the ultimate nightmare scenario.

...Well, for most of us, that is.

Yatseniuk Sees No Grounds For Ukraine's Withdrawal From Big Treaty With Russiawww.ukranews.com...

GAHHHHHHHH NOT GOOD
Russian general says Poland open to nuclear strike(link doesn't work)
-A senior Russian general warned Poland today that it was leaving itself open to retaliation - and possibly even a nuclear strike - by agreeing to host a US missile base.

General Anatoly Nogovitsyn, the Russian armed forces' deputy chief of staff, issued the extraordinary threat in an interview with Interfax, a Russian news agency.

“Poland, by deploying [the system] is exposing itself to a strike - 100 per cent,” he was quoted as saying, before explaining that Russian military doctrine sanctioned the use of nuclear weapons “against the allies of countries having nuclear weapons if they in some way help them”.

The bleak warning comes as tensions between Moscow and the West reached their worst state since the end of the Cold War. After a brief conflict between Russia and Georgia the international community has struggled to secure a peaceful resolution in the Caucasus. Moscow has yet to withdraw troops from its neighbour despite pressure from the European Union and United States.

In a provocative move, Washington followed robust rhetoric against Russia’s foreign policy motives in the region by announcing an agreement to station US missiles in Eastern Europe.

After months of negotiations American officials chose yesterday to announce that an agreement had been reached with Warsaw over a missile defence shield to be built on Polish soil.

American officials insist that the missile battery will be installed as a safeguard against rogue states such as Iran and North Korea, but Moscow says that it is being directly threatened by the deployment of weapons.

President Medvedev said that the deal “absolutely clearly demonstrates what we had said earlier - the deployment has the Russian Federation as its target.”

He did, however, take a far more conciliatory approach to the disagreement. At a joint press conference with Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, he said: “It is sad news for all who live on this densely populated continent, but it is not dramatic.”

The relatively conciliatory tone of Mr Medvedev, who succeeded Vladimir Putin three months ago, did little to ease the tension. At a press conference in Washington, President Bush denounced Russian foreign policy as “bullying and intimidation”.

“The Cold War is over,” he said. “The days of satellite states and spheres of influence are behind us."

But echoes of Cold War diplomacy were clear as it emerged that the US-Polish missile agreement included a “mutual commitment” between the two nations to come to each other’s assistance “in case of trouble”.

Donald Tusk, the Polish Prime Minister, hinted that the US had pledged to back Warsaw in the event of Russian aggression towards Poland. He said that he only agreed to host the US defence shield on the condition that the US agreed to help augment Poland’s defences with Patriot missiles, which are intended to ward off any threat from Russia.

“We have crossed the Rubicon,” he said after agreeing the landmark deal after more than 18 months of negotiations. In the past few days, Polish leaders told a domestic audience that the fighting in Georgia has justified Warsaw’s willingness to form such a significant alliance with the US.


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