Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

reply to post by TruthTellist


lets be realistic here.
both sides, Georgia and Russia, have produced propaganda. it is part of war. the news media have no choice but to report what they are handed. most news sources don't have the ability to place people in a war zone. this works to the advantage of the respective governments when putting out propaganda.

the purpose is to confuse your enemy as to where you are, and what your doing. its not always to lie to the public.

don't worry, the truth will come out sooner or latter.

reply to post by -Rugged Shark-


BBC, FOX & SKY are known propaganda Apparatus and are known to be controlled by the governments/Globalists.

WMD's anyone?

Oh, I forgot CNN...

[edit on 13-8-2008 by TruthTellist]

Breaking news on CNN:

Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili tells CNN: "There is no cease-fire."

So much for that.

reply to post by TruthTellist


What about VRT, NOS, Aftonbladet, France24 and Al Jazeera? Just to name a few who have reported Russian troops in Gori. And with reported I mean live accounts from the reporters themself.

This sounds like typical Russian propaganda as they claim peace while still moving there forces closer to the capitol of Georgia.
And all this while the worlds eyes are glued to the olympics.
Gotta wonder whats up behind the curtains.

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Breaking news on CNN:

Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili tells CNN: "There is no cease-fire."

So much for that.

Heh, i was wondering where he was, mostly you could hear him every few hours or so.

President Saakashvili is live on CNN right now.

Russian convoy heads deep into weakened Georgia, violating truce

TBILISI, Georgia (AP) -- A Russian military convoy thrust deep into Georgia on Wednesday and Georgian officials said Russian troops bombed and looted the crossroads city of Gori, violating a freshly brokered truce intended to end the conflict.

In the west, Georgia's weakened military acknowledged its soldiers had pulled out entirely from Abkhazia, leaving both breakaway regions at the heart of the fighting in the hands of Russian-backed separatists.

Even as the Russian troops moved deep into Georgian territory from the separatist region of South Ossetia, a few dozen fighters from Abkhazia offered their own brazen challenge, planting their flag on a bridge over the Inguri River - outside the rebel territory.

"The border has been along this river for 1,000 years," separatist official Ruslan Kishmaria told AP on Wednesday. He said Georgia would have to accept the new border and taunted the departed Georgian forces by saying they had received "American training in running away."

Check this:

Soldiers waved at journalists and one soldier shouted to a photographer taking shots of the convoy: "Come with us, beauty, we're going to Tbilisi." Gori is about a 90-minute drive from the Georgian capital.

(AP)

[edit on 13-8-2008 by chips]

Originally posted by Mammoth

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Breaking news on CNN:

Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili tells CNN: "There is no cease-fire."

So much for that.

Heh, i was wondering where he was, mostly you could hear him every few hours or so.

I was thinking what would happen if the Russians enter Tbilisi. Would some foreign embassy airlift him out. Is it possible without Russian resistance?

Russian convoy not headed for Georgian capital

Chance, on the road with the Russian column, said it was moving slowly south from Gori.

Early fears that it was headed for the capital, Tbilisi, were allayed when the convoy turned down a side road.

www.cnn.com...

I would really love to know what prompted this incursion, and what they plan to do at the abandoned military base they're apparently headed toward.

[edit on 8/13/2008 by AceWombat04]

reply to post by asen_y2k


Im not convinced if the BBC say it, they aren't a trustworthy source . Not till i see Russian main battle tanks amongst this footage , and there aren't any.

There was a story much earlier on.. 3 or 4 days ago , of numerous groups in Russia signing up for the South Ossetian army, cossaks were one such group. There were a lot .. queing up to sign up for the SO.

I wonder if they have swelled up their forces using such groups as mercenaries to form an army with the Abkhazian's to bring about this civil war .

If the Russian army really are involved then it won't work. So Im waiting to get much better evidence than the bbc's say so. If they pulled it off , it'd be a masterstroke .

Got a link from another forum, might be interesting...

Russian Soldiers shouting "Tbilisi!" and waving flags

They keep showing Georgians and saying they are Russian.

"12:36 GMT – EU Foreign Ministers approve the peaceful resolution plan agreed by Russia and Georgia."


The news networks are misleading the Westerners. The Russians have been attacked in violation of the ceasefire just made. The news says the opposite.

reply to post by Mammoth

Estonian media is confirmed that as well!Oh my...

gruusia.postimees.ee...

[edit on 13-8-2008 by rixhell]

Here's one hypothesis I haven't seen from anyone yet, unlikely though it may be. We have heard reports earlier of the Ossetian militia attacking journalists, stealing their equipment at gunpoint, etc. as well as looting in Gori. Then we had secondary accounts of Russian troops moving through Gori, and down the main road toward Tbilisi.

However, we now have a CNN reporter traveling with the Russian convoy. Not only are they not stopping him from reporting (as the militia did to the Norwegian journalists they took the equipment from at gunpoint according to reports), but the Georgian government itself has informed him that the Russian convoy is not headed for Tbilisi, but for a nearby abandoned military base.

Think about this. That means that there may be some communication between Georgia and Russia on this troop movement, and it also may suggest that the militia from South Ossetia and the Russian forces aren't on the same page.

What if there was fire between South Ossetian forces and Georgian forces, the Ossetian militia crossed the border, and Russian forces have merely pursued them in order to reign them in, with the knowledge that Georgian forces have been severely eroded by the earlier Russian attacks and cannot or will not be able to effectively respond on their own? What if this is Russia's concept of peacekeeping? We know from earlier reports that Georgian forces left Gori largely abandoned and undefended, after all.

I know this seems implausible - but possible at least?

[edit on 8/13/2008 by AceWombat04]

[edit on 8/13/2008 by AceWombat04]

Breaking news bbc.. all military vehicals have pulled off the road to the capital.

reply to post by TruthTellist


yeah to me that makes sense. there is no reason russia would break the ceasefire illegally. they have the leverage they can ask for whatever they want for a ceasefire and get it. this smells of spin to me.

put out rumors that the russians broke the ceasefire in the media and then attack the russians forcing them to fire back. then spin it on the media that the russians broke the ceasfire. then the westernnations will come to georgias aid.

disgusting if true. georgia has been very dirty in this war.

reply to post by AceWombat04


Yes, it's possible, and if the Russians could do that it would make them look better in face of those that have been accusing Russia of doing nothing.

I wonder what will become of the israeils and american 'advisors' who helped instigate and supervise this conflict?
-It is likely it is they who have been violating the ceasefires as they are made.

The Russian people know full well who is responsible for this. They aren't brainwashed like the Americans - who are the laughing stock of the world, when they aren't being hated.



[edit on 13-8-2008 by TruthTellist]

reply to post by AceWombat04


In Gori, the reporter was standing with the Russian army - who were also standing alongside the Ossetian militia. My opinion? They're in cahoots.

Soldiers waved at journalists and one soldier shouted to a photographer taking shots of the convoy: "Come with us, beauty, we're going to Tbilisi." Gori is about a 90-minute drive from the Georgian capital.

(AP)

And I hope they're kidding.