Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

Originally posted by pepsi78
You are all paranoic, this will be over in a few days.There will be no invasion of the capital.I'm sorry for Georgia but it's the fault of the georgian gov. Georgia is paying the price for it's leaders actions.
What did they think they would get from boming S.O.

You are on glue, IMO there is no proof as to who started this besides it has gotten way out of hand ,frankly bolth sides are to blame

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I'm not "paranoic" - just reporting what I'm getting through the AFP and television news.

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NATO says membership pledge to Georgia stands 12 Aug 2008 13:56:34 GMT
Source: Reuters
(updates with de Hoop Scheffer news conference)

By David Brunnstrom

BRUSSELS, Aug 12 (Reuters) - NATO said on Tuesday that its April summit pledge that Georgia will one day become a member of the alliance still stands, despite fighting with Russia over the breakaway Georgian region of South Ossetia.

Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said the U.S.-led military alliance awaited confirmation on the ground of Russia's order to cease military operations, but that was not enough and the situation must revert to the status quo was before clashes began on Aug. 6.

"I think that the Bucharest communique stands. The allies have said in Bucharest that one day Georgia will join NATO," de Hoop Scheffer told a news conference after NATO ambassadors met Georgia's ambassador to discuss the crisis.

Georgia had made a number of requests to NATO for assistance, which the allies agreed to consider urgently, he said, reaffirming that Moscow's use of force had been massive and disproportionate.

But he added: "NATO is not seeking a direct role or a military role in this conflict."

Russia is fiercely opposed to Georgia's aspirations to join NATO, which would take the Western military alliance right up to its southern border. Many analysts believe that was one of the key causes of this month's fighting.

Moscow requested on Monday an emergency meeting of the NATO-Russia council to discuss the crisis, but after initially saying it could take place on Tuesday, NATO said it required more preparation.

De Hoop Scheffer said the 27 NATO allies stressed Georgia's sovereignty and territorial integrity must be respected.

"It is very important that all parties go back to the status quo ante, that is as it existed on Aug. 6," he said.

Earlier, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev announced he had given the order to halt military activities in Georgia after achieving Moscow's objectives of punishing what he called Georgian aggression in South Ossetia.

Georgian Foreign Minister Ekaterine Tkeshelashvili had planned to attend the NATO meeting in person but was forced to cancel the trip because of the situation in Georgia, a spokesman for the Georgian embassy said.

"None of the ministers are able to leave the capital right now," the spokesman said.

The fighting began last week when Georgia, a close U.S. ally, launched an offensive to retake the Russian-backed rebel region, which broke away from Georgian rule in 1992. Moscow responded with a huge counter-offensive.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy, current holder of the European Union presidency, spearheaded an international peace mission on Tuesday to try to halt the five-day-old Caucasus war, which has rattled world oil markets and unnerved the West. (additional reporting by Ingrid Melander, writing by Paul Taylor)

Originally posted by AllSeeingI
Bad News! Georgia Says Russia Still Bombing Despite "Halt"
Looks like this thing is far from over.

SKY NEWS:

Russia rubbishes Georgia bombing claim

I only noticed this now, although it says 13:50, almost two hours ago.

U.S. embassy in Tbilisi confirms U.S. citizen's wounding in conflictzone

Has anyone seen this before?

You are all paranoic, this will be over in a few days.There will be no invasion of the capital.I'm sorry for Georgia but it's the fault of the georgian gov. Georgia is paying the price for it's leaders actions.
What did they think they would get from boming S.O.

That's what people said on friday, saying, "By next week, this will be totally forgotten and resolved." Well, it's already Tuesday and its not over yet. No one as far as I'm concerned should be saying what the duration of this will be, unless they have a crystal ball No one knows.

[edit on 12-8-2008 by ghaleon12]

Originally posted by all2human

Originally posted by pepsi78
You are all paranoic, this will be over in a few days.There will be no invasion of the capital.I'm sorry for Georgia but it's the fault of the georgian gov. Georgia is paying the price for it's leaders actions.
What did they think they would get from boming S.O.

You are on glue, IMO there is no proof as to who started this besides it has gotten way out of hand ,frankly bolth sides are to blame

Well then what was the Georgian army doing there in the first place killing civilians and blowing up S.O.?

That's what people said on friday, saying, "By next week, this will be totally forgotten and resolved." Well, it's already Tuesday and its not over yet. No one as far as I'm concerned should be saying what the duration of this will be, unless they have a crystal ball

No one knows.

[edit on 12-8-2008 by ghaleon12]

This is will be over in a few days as I said.
South Osetia will want it's independence, part of the russian army will remain in South Osetia, the rest of things will go to normal as it was.
I'm happy for this and sad.Happy that this pupet or the georgian president as other people call him got what he deserved.On the other side I'm sad for the Georgian people.


[edit on 12-8-2008 by pepsi78]

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12 Aug 2008 14:21:17 GMT
Source: Reuters
RUSSIA'S MEDVEDEV SAYS PEACE PLAN INCLUDES START OF INTERNATIONAL DISCUSSION ON STATUS OF GEORGIAN REBEL REGIONS

[edit on 12-8-2008 by Digital_Reality]

I just woke up for the day. I've tried to catch up with what's going on. This is probably old news by now, but here are the starkly conflicting reports from various sources as of right now online. I've quoted a couple, but the articles below them I've just made into summary links to the stories so as to save space:

MOSCOW/TBILISI (Reuters) - Russian President Dmitry Medvedev ordered a halt to military operations in Georgia on Tuesday but Tbilisi cast doubt on the announcement, saying Russian fighter jets had just bombed two villages.

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Georgian Prime Minister Lado Gurgenidze told Reuters he wanted more evidence of a Russian ceasefire.

"Despite the Russian president's claims earlier this morning that military operations against Georgia have been suspended, at this moment, Russian fighter jets are bombarding two Georgian villages outside South Ossetia," Gurgenidze said.

Russia's Defence Ministry dismissed the allegation as an "information provocation", adding that Georgian guns continued to pound its positions in South Ossetia.

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BBC reports continued bombings initially, but says attacks appear to have stopped now

Sky News reports that Georgia claims air strikes are ongoing, despite vehement Russian denials to the contrary

Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili has announced his country is to leave the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS), an alliance of former Soviet republics. It follows Dmitry Medvedev’s order to end Russia’s military operation in Georgia.

Saakashvili made the announcement during a rally in the capital Tbilisi. In his speech he called on other countries in the union to leave the organisation.

"We have decided that Georgia will leave the CIS,” he said. “We urge Ukraine and other countries to also leave the Commonwealth of Independent States, which is dominated by Russia".

Russia Today reports that Georgia announces its departure from the Commonwealth of independent states, and urges other countries such as Ukraine to follow suit, saying that the CIS is dominated by Russia

The conflict between Abkhazia and Georgian forces in the gorge appears to be ongoing as well.

[edit on 8/12/2008 by AceWombat04]

Originally posted by pepsi78
You are all paranoic, this will be over in a few days.There will be no invasion of the capital.

I'm sorry but that accusation was flying around on Friday when a few were saying it was going to end there, nothing more was going to happen...

Paranoia indeed.

Georgia Says Russia Still Attacking

Apparently some of those soldiers didn't get the memo that this was over. Or more Georgian propaganda? Seems like both sides are telling different stories and somewhere in between is something that is actually happening.

money it's 4 nothing-time !

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WASHINGTON (AFP) — The US military was surprised by the timing and swiftness of the Russian military's move into South Ossetia and is still trying to sort out what happened, a US defense official said Monday.
Russian forces surged into the breakaway region last week after weeks of clashes, threats and warnings between Tblisi and Moscow which culminated August 6 in a two-day Georgian offensive into South Ossetia.
That the two countries were on a collision course was no surprise to anyone, but the devastating Russian response was not expected, officials said.
"We were tracking it earlier in that week and we knew that things were escalating," said a military official, who asked not to be identified. "I can tell you it moved quicker than we anticipated that first day."

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12 Aug 2008 14:37:35 GMT
Source: Reuters
MOSCOW, Aug 12 (Reuters) - Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on Tuesday slammed Georgian leader Mikhail Saakashvili, saying he had acted as a "lunatic" and had lied about a ceasefire during a conflict over South Ossetia.

"You know, lunatics' difference from other people is that when they smell blood it is very difficult to stop them. So you have to use surgery," Medvedev told reporters after talks with French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

"As for claims by the Georgian president that the ceasefire has been observed for two 2 days, that's a lie. Georgian forces continued to fire at peacekeepers, unfortunately people were killed yesterday. .. There was no ceasefire from the Georgian side." (Reporting by Dmitry Zhdannikov and Maria Golovnina, writing by Guy Faulconbridge, editing by Michael Stott)

Originally posted by pepsi78
Well then what was the Georgian army doing there in the first place killing civilians and blowing up S.O.?

He was trying to stop the separatists' constant attacks against Georgia. Dude, the story did not start when russia sais it did... the story started way earlier.. stop being such a sucker and look into it

Originally posted by pepsi78
Happy that this pupet or the georgian president as other people call him got what he deserved.On the other side I'm sad for the Georgian people.

No need to be sad for Georgians.. they are more united now than ever. Massive demonstrations in support of the current government are taking place. After this thing is over, Georgia is more firmly on the course towards west than ever before.

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MOSCOW - Russia's president has agreed to a proposal calling for both Russian and Georgian troops to move back to their initial positions and stop fighitng. Georgia has not yet agreed to the plan, which also calls for the beginning of international discussion on future status of Georgia's breakaway provinces and ways to ensure their security.

The plan endorsed by Dmitry Medvedev and his French counterpart Nicolas Sarkozy demands that the parties ensure the free access for humanitarian assistance.

After his talks in Moscow, Sarkozy will be heading to the Georgian capital with the proposal.

CNN/FNC Breaking: Russia to keep "Peace Keeping" Troops within Georgia.

No links as of yet, as it was just stated on air.
This is far from over, I'm afraid.

Originally posted by justme2
CNN/FNC Breaking: Russia to keep "Peace Keeping" Troops within Georgia.

No links as of yet, as it was just stated on air.
This is far from over, I'm afraid.

What I'm seeing isn't that they will remain in Georgia proper, but this:

MOSCOW, Aug 12 (Reuters) - President Dmitry Medvedev said on Tuesday that Russian peacekeepers would remain in Georgia's two breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia to ensure stability in the Caucasus region.

"Our peacekeepers are continuing to perform their duties and will continue to perform their duties because they are a key factor for upholding security in the Caucasus," Medvedev said at a news conference with French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

"That has been the case and that will continue to be the case," Medvedev said.

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BREAKING - SKY TV/REUTERS: International Criminal Court Prosecutor says he has 'received communications' over Georgia conflict.