An Attempt to Debunk Chemtrails For Good

There was heavy chemtrail activity today over my area. I will show you a sequence of photos that shows how I went from enjoying a beautiful clear blue sky to a man made cloud cover. I do not think this is being caused by normal air traffic but I am sure you will try to convince me otherwise.

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Nice clear blue sky first plane noticed releasing trail.

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A few minutes later it is expanding.

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First one expanded about 10 times original width. Second trail starts below it.

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Few minutes later both are expanding more. First one now almost 20 times wider. Why has that not dissipated yet like a normal contrail?

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Now look at the first trail. It is huge and takes up half the sky. It still has not dissipated. 4 other trails started below it.

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It has turned into a cloud cover less than 1 hour earlier it was a clear blue sky.

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End result an hour later hazy man made cloud cover.


[edit on 24-8-2008 by Erasurehead]

reply to post by GenRadek


Thanks for pointing this out. It makes sense to me. I will pay attention next time I see this. Once again thanks.

reply to post by Erasurehead


Sorry, Erasure.....you will see normal cirrus clouds form, even when ther are no airpanes around.

Did you, here's a question....did you sit outside and look up, in the same area of the sky, on the next few days?? If you did, was there any difference in your observations??

Reason I ask is....commercial jet traffic tend to fly pretty regularly, except for the occassional delay to infuriate the passengers onboard. SO, if you don't see the EXACT SAME THING every day, at about the same time, then what your are seeing is a jet contrail, that sometimes spreads out, because of atmospheric conditions.....and naturally forming Cirrus clouds, that may indicate an approaching weather front....

Second point.....the Earth is very, very big......think about it, for a moment....look at photos from Space....there is NO WAY that a few square miles of these 'Cirrus' clouds could have much of an effect.

AND, what was the angle of the Sun, at the time? Most of these alleged 'chemtrails' are taken at times when the Sun is low, so they cast shadows.....

ahhhh...forget it!! It's hard to explain, in a forum like this. Just keep believing nonsense.....and read my signature.

Originally posted by Erasurehead
I do not think this is being caused by normal air traffic but I am sure you will try to convince me otherwise.

It's for you to show it cannot be normal air traffic. The onus is on those presenting an alternative theory to the long established one to prove that their's better explains observations.

We say it's normal contrails and cirrus cloud development as well observed, documented and scientifically explained. You have to convince us it's not.

There is no way those are commercial planes making those trails.

There is always slim chance they could be commercial planes, but they are likely NATO or a private company - nevertheless, someone is up to no good.

Don't listen to the three disinfo-types that inhabit this sort of thread, they will ask you for proof and then dismiss it out of hand.

(They are here solely to derail you and stop you from releasing data pertinent to solving the chemtrail phenomenon - as well as to create a plausible deniability in the minds of those just finding out about this issue.)

Nice pictures - keep up the good work.

[edit on 24-8-2008 by TruthTellist]

The circular photo of a chemy says it all to me. What, the pilot forgot his sunglasses? Give me a break.

Originally posted by TruthTellist
There is no way those are commercial planes making those trails.

Why?

Just saying something doesn't make it true. If you want to win the argument prove - or, at least, offer some evidence - to support your assertions. Otherwise you may as well be saying they were made by fluffy pink bunnies on a shopping trip.

Why do you think that contrails are not contrails? How are what you see today different from what has been seen in the past?

Give us something to discuss! Falsify the conventional explanation! Surely if you are right then there must be something to offer us doubters?

(and by that I mean something specific to what you see - we all know that cloud seeding and other chemical spraying has and does take place. But we need something to show that what you see in the skies is chemtrailing and not just normal contrails)

This following clip gives a good example of a plane chasing it's own "contrail shadow" (black line). It's amazing that there is a shadow on a clear sky, in front of the plane.




Best Wishes.

EDIT I love the posters choice of backing track "Battle of the Planets" ha.



[edit on 24-8-2008 by TrueLight]

And here is a very nice clip to add to the collection of UFO/Chemtrails involvement. Check this one out....



Government UFO's or whatever, when the poisoning of humanity is taking place, our friends in the glowing craft show up.

Best Wishes.

reply to post by Erasurehead


Very good example of chem-spraying there Erasurehead It's rather obvious to most people, try not to get frustrated with nay-sayers, you will notice most are "in the profession".

Best Wishes.

reply to post by TrueLight

reply to post by neformore


Erasure's pics are a good example of chemtrails. I enjoyed looking at them. I mentioned being "in the profession" meaning there are professional cloud watchers in here. I am implying that any "ordinary" person presenting a theory or explanation that differs from someone in the profession will more than likely create a sense of indignation and a desire to present the alternative (standard) viewpoint. However, what you must realise is this, people in the profession did not create the thesis regarding cloud formation themselves. They read it in a book. Quite often these books and so on are printed by the government. So it is not unreasonable to question the "official" literature, is it. I wasn't entirely sure what you were questioning as when I clicked your "reply" link it took me to the first page. Was this what you were asking neformore?

Interesting from a previous post:

CHEMTRAILS & UFOs OVER MAINE AMAZING FOOTAGE BLACK SKY LINES

www.youtube.com...

He calls them dark leader lines... how about he shut the spray off
and the dark violet light emitting trail is from voltage excited air from a
voltage driven air craft.

A special mix must be made for this type of craft to output the trail.

Sure its all unknown.
ED: just happened by this gem:
Dr.Deagle about Chemtrails and Cellphones
www.youtube.com...

Sorry if posted before... but this man is convinced a trail is not
a trail if its not a contrail (which may be extinct... who makes
contrails in these days of efficient jets an airliners)



[edit on 8/25/2008 by TeslaandLyne]

reply to post by weedwhacker


You know, I also wonder. If its suppose to be secret, why do it out in the middle of the day? How about at night? I guess they think its a secret best kept secret out in the open. But then again, as we can see, that obviously isnt "working."

The biggest thing I notice when dealing with chemtrailers, they completely ignore the obvious atmospheric ramifications of spraying anything at high altitudes. If they dont understand that BASIC idea, everything else is lost on them.

Also lacking is ANY understanding of meteorological concepts or sciences. The most basic understanding of the atmosphere and its complexity is also lost on them. I have noticed that sometimes, they cant even give a clear definitive answer as to what the heck a chemtrail is.

reply to post by Swingarm


You are most welcome!

reply to post by TrueLight


TrueLight,

May I suggest to you going back 1 page and taking a look at the websites I have posted on this?

The answers are there. Its up to you to take a look, its another thing if you want to understand it.

reply to post by GenRadek


You posted nothing on page 1.

here are your posts


[edit on 25-8-2008 by Swingarm]

reply to post by TrueLight


Uh huh. Why are you showing us a video of clouds and contrails and VERY FUZZY pictures of airplanes? No really. Why? Because if you were to show that to a meteorologist, with your claims, he'd probably laugh at you and tell you to get the hell out.

Somebody who made this little video hasnt the foggiest clue when it comes to upper air atmosphere behavior or cloud formation or atmospheric optics. All I saw was cloud iridescence and a contrail which was having the ice particles getting blown away by the upper atmospheric winds.

reply to post by Swingarm


I said 1 page back.
as in page 24

reply to post by GenRadek


Pardon me.

I will check this out and report back