UFO Crash in Las Vegas 1st of August 2008

Originally posted by AntisepticSkeptic
If native primitive tribe living in amazon with no contact with the outside world saw modern aircraft crashed over a hill, they would definitely assume it was somekind of a giant bird that came from another world, because they can only relate to something they have seen and confabulate the rest to make sense of what happened.

Please post your credentials that shows us all why you are an authority on what native amazonian tribes may or may not assume?

Without those credentials, you are typing your personal bias, with regards to the belief systems of other humans. As such, your hypothetical argument made in an attempt to discredit this story, is invalid.

You can tell people what they saw as much as you wish, but unless you were there, you have no idea what they saw or experienced.

Thanks.

Sounds to me like it was a military object that fell ,I heard this a couple of months back. this is not a new story. I wonder if the Houseboat guy every got found.

so any news about the boat guy?

couldnt find anything

www.abovetopsecret.com...

you might wanna check that thread too , seeing as this was the original article

credit where credit is due

What happened to the boat guy?

The way I see it, if it's a military UAV, then it is designed for fighting or bombing, no point in making a stealth UAV bright Green/Blue, this is not only incredible tech, but the whole 'blue/green' flames seems like suppressed tech. Not to mention the 5 helicopter's picking it up within 17 mins and the main witnes disappearing.

We can make no conclusions now, as we don't know the capability of our own crafts or an ET craft, we have an idea how they work, but we can't be sure. So for people still on the fence, this could show one thing, the government are hiding something, be it technology far beyond what they claim, or evidence of ET visitations.

And about the plane crashing on the mountain, I'd guess locals may not even see the plane, as they have no understanding of what it would be, they would hear it, but not see it, or that's what Capt. Cook might say (think it was Cook, lol).

EMM

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by AntisepticSkeptic
If native primitive tribe living in amazon with no contact with the outside world saw modern aircraft crashed over a hill, they would definitely assume it was somekind of a giant bird that came from another world, because they can only relate to something they have seen and confabulate the rest to make sense of what happened.

Please post your credentials that shows us all why you are an authority on what native amazonian tribes may or may not assume?

Without those credentials, you are typing your personal bias, with regards to the belief systems of other humans. As such, your hypothetical argument made in an attempt to discredit this story, is invalid.

You can tell people what they saw as much as you wish, but unless you were there, you have no idea what they saw or experienced.

Thanks.

I'm not discrediting this story altogether, I'm discrediting the premise of how accounts are exaggerated and distorted due to people's tendency to believe in the extraordinary by filling the gaps with ludicrous claims.

So an object fell from the sky and the military took it. Where is the evidence that points to something 'extraterrestrial'? It's a UFO in their eyes, because they can't identify or relate to anything they have seen so they confabulate.

The believers of alien UFO do not have any evidence to prove anything 'extraterestrial' or even extraordinary happened in this incident. NOTHING. They only make far fetched claims and speculation. Not even a freaking blurry photograph.

The military was involved. They said it was a military exercise. In a military exercise they don't do normal things people in the middle of hicksville consider as ho-humm normality. Where on Earth did they came up with the story that the military retrieved a crash alien spacraft?

Extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence. And in this case (again) the believers of faith have NOTHING to prove their claims other than anecdotal and hearsay (the story has many inconsistencies and Jeebus, the 'investigators' can't even provide even a blurry picture of the 'crash site')

I'm not surprised, as this George Knapp guy has made some ludicrous claims with ZERO EVIDENCE when he was at the skinwalker ranch saying he witnessed a being crawling out of a wormhole (I guess his dog ate his camera again :lol That puts him on the same level of credibility as any UFO nutcases out there.

[edit on 3-8-2008 by AntisepticSkeptic]

I know where Bob is. He's hiding in shame that he made no effort to get a look at this thing. This is another one of those cases that bugs me where the observer saw something close, but made no effort to get to the object. The boat guy said it came down 100 yards from the river that he was fishing on. I don't know about you, but I'd been off that boat, running, crawling, rolling in a wheel chair, whatever, to see what the glowing turquoise thing was. If he could walk, he could have been there in less than the 17 minutes it took the helicopters to arrive.

Someone already suggested it but Twenty Nine Palms would be the closest base to the area where this thing came down. Needles is, at LEAST, an 85 mile drive from Las Vegas on the roads. 'As the crow flies' it is probably closer.

For instance, 'As the crow flies' Area 51 is about 60 miles from my location but if we were to drive it would be much closer to 100 miles or so.

My husband is researching the 'flame' as we speak. He has already picked up on the 'copper' aspect, as someone did earlier in the thread, and it may also be linked to 'temperature'. Boron, a fuel additive, burns a blue green in BOTH Jet AND Rocket fuel.

This could have very well been a 'satellite' of 'foreign' origin. It would be pretty shady if it WERE an unidentified due to the very quick response time and etc. Secret something or other, SURE, but NOT unidentified. Why was the response time so fast? It was more than likely spotted on radar and than 'tracked' in. As far as the Military and/or whomever is concerned it is none of the public's business especially if it is a TEST vehicle or a satellite. If it is a TEST vehicle they don't want it to be 'widely' known as to what it does and how it looks etc. This would also explain the LACK of photos etc. of the area. This would become a 'leak' invariably and we may be beat to the punch if the wrong individuals get wind of it! They also don't want 'scavengers' encountering the thing and 'trashing' it or removing pieces of it etc. If you wish to make a full recovery of ANYTHING that falls into an area where PEOPLE are than it is imperative to do so very quickly due to the curious and many times ignorant nature of the majority of the public.

NO, I'm not saying that this is the way it should be, I'm just saying that this is the way it IS. The group on this message board, and others, is actually very small in comparison to the entire population of Sheeple. It is IMHO that MOST people, despite cries of TELL US THE TRUTH, could not sleep at night if they actually KNEW it! With the exception of SOME of those who frequent and speak out on boards such as this one and even more so those who KEEP COMPLETELY to themselves, I don't think that the majority is ready for actual true disclosure of ALL.

As far as the comments on 'Desert dwellers'.... ha!! The Test Site is all of 35 miles from my location here. Ive seen the drones flying in formation through Crystal up the road. Three very small black jets that were flying too low to the ground to be manned. (if they weren't drones than WOW! cool!) We've seen lights that act like NOTHING that we KNOW of in the mainstream public but it is WELL known that these are NOT UFO's but 'test vehicles'. It is usually those who are not in such close proximity to the actual 'phenomena' that are quick to call it UFOs!!! I've no doubt that there are UFO's but most of what we see now is 'test' stuff and not otherworldly or other-dimensional. IMHO of course.

Ok,

Who reported this?

1. A Radio Station owner
2. A guy who periodicly works for the radio station owner.
3. Bob, who likes to call the radio station from time to time.

These are the only guys that I heard of that saw this. Was there anyone else or did I miss it?

I think this may be lame

Will

QUESTION? How come the story header reads UFO crash in LAS VEGAS??

The story discribes Something going down south of Needles. I'm in Laughlin NV and Needles is about 25 miles south of me and I'm about 95 miles south of LAS VAGAS... Its no where near Las vegas and to be geographicly correct needles is in California a totally different state all together. I'm not trying to go off topic just trying to make a minor correction, yay me..

Anyways should read UFO crashes in Mohave desert 120 miles south of LAS VEGAS....or even Laughlin, just as many people know where Laughlin is.

Someone trying to hype a story about a downed UFO? Humm lets put LAS VEGAS in the title, that will get um..

Just a minor observation is all.

i haven't read anyones reply or anything but wow i must live under a rock i live in vegas i didn't see anything i will look into it right im going to read the blog

Sounds to me to be testing or some sort, especially seeings as though they said one of the helicopters was a Europe registered Army helicopter (probably a UK Lynx?).. Also the response time it took for them to pick up whatever it was. Could have been testing a new form of propulsion with a un-manned vehicle hence why they were so quick on the case of where it crashed etc. Bit off course between Scotland and Area 51?

[edit on 3-8-2008 by Zemouk]

Thanks, pweagle!

My Dad's in Kingman Arizona and we go see him all the time. Laughlin is MURDEROUS on HEAT AND HUMIDITY!! Hope you live by the river there! HaHa!! Parents lived here in Pahrump for 12 years before it got to big for them.

But you've got a GOOD point on the headline and the location. WHY did they use UFO and Las Vegas? Needles is NOT Las Vegas and this, more than likely, was NOT a UFO. So.... there ya go! Perhaps their attempting to "belittle" the entire issue by confusing it for the Public/Sheeples consumption? Make it a UFO so all of the 'wanna believers' will be thrown off of the actual TRUTH??

reply to post by free_spirit


.....get a life dude.

this drives me crazy

ufo=unidentified flying object

anything that is flying and you cant identify is a ufo, but that doesnt mean it is extra terrestrial.

so quit saying whether it is a ufo or not, by definition it is

Originally posted by Mindsmog
www.abovetopsecret.com...

you might wanna check that thread too , seeing as this was the original article

credit where credit is due

This is the UFO section and that was breaking news.

It is an Illuminati News effort to standardize UFOs with ET buzz to
counter the man made UFO from Tesla theories.

The more news with "Oh, UFO must be Alien." gets on the airways and
CIA publications and cyberspace the more people think they understand
that an ET existed in God's whole universe and its next to him.

So nothing could be farther than the truth.

So as I will venture over to the news and see if ET is mentioned.

I agree with previous posts on the origin of this UFO.

Another UFO in Vegas? Either Aliens like to gamble; they investigate the US' secret bases on a regular basis; or most of the sightings in Nevada are our own craft being tested there.

They get here from wherever they live, and then crash. I can see it happening now and again, definitely (I believe in Roswell), but not several times in a relatively short space of time.

I'd say it was a US craft that crashed. If they are test craft, then they will crash quite frequently I would of thought.

I have to agree with a couple of you on the testing theory. There was a thread a few days ago , " If Aliens are so superior why do the keep crashing". I like to think that the military has aquired some alien crafts and are attemping to get them up and running. And my beliefs are that they have know idea what their doing, this is the US government where talking about, and these dummies are crashing these things all over the place. Why would there be such a quick response....ie clean up crew.



[edit on 3-8-2008 by DazE777]

zoso,

You are correct. UFO = Unidentified Flying Object

and anything that is NOT IDENTIFIED fits into that category.

But as someone else has mentioned, to the mass of Society, UFO means "Extraterrestrial" and for the media to use that term is an attempt to create 'fear' or curiosity through assumption. But you are correct in the actual meaning of the term and the military uses the term to identify ANY object that is NOT IDENTIFIED. Even pilots use the term and do not intend to say that they are seeing an 'Extraterrestrial' object. An unknown Russian or Japanese craft would be considered to be a UFO unless the pilot knows what it is....

but this is the general population I am referring to... UFO means ET to a great majority of society.

And than again, I have suggested that the Military DOES know what it is, therefore it is technically NOT a UFO if you are one of those who KNOW what it is...ie: certain Military personnel... therefore this term must be used VERY LOOSELY... since it is only a UFO to the general public but not an actual UFO since it is IDENTIFIED by the Military.



[edit on 3-8-2008 by Teri Uhouse]