Shards of the Illuminati

Originally posted by rememberence
The lumen whatever. It's sentient. I need to talk to it to figure out what it knows.

Hrm, well, I figure it'll only go as far as it judges it may. It takes a quiet mind, free from distractions.

Once upon a time, people started ordering only cheese pizzas to go instead of the pepperoni-and-cheese that was usually so popular. The store manager had no idea what had suddenly changed. This happened after Barack Obama visited Ottowa and the Russians encroached on Canadian airspace, just for kicks of course-- those crazy Russians.

Originally posted by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by rememberence
The lumen whatever. It's sentient. I need to talk to it to figure out what it knows.

Hrm, well, I figure it'll only go as far as it judges it may. It takes a quiet mind, free from distractions.

Once upon a time, people started ordering only cheese pizzas to go instead of the pepperoni-and-cheese that was usually so popular. The store manager had no idea what had suddenly changed. This happened after Barack Obama visited Ottowa and the Russians encroached on Canadian airspace, just for kicks of course-- those crazy Russians.

Well it's got to do a full info-dump - which is going to suck by the way - or else we've no real chance. *Shrugs.*

Originally posted by rememberence

The lumen whatever. It's sentient.

Ah, right. I see. Yes. I thought you meant Kvasir!

I need to talk to it to figure out what it knows.

Intriguing. Assuming, momentarily, that it exists as portrayed; will it let you do that? Will whoever is guarding it now (if anyone guards it at all) let you do that?

Originally posted by Cadbury

Originally posted by rememberence

The lumen whatever. It's sentient.

Ah, right. I see. Yes. I thought you meant Kvasir!

I need to talk to it to figure out what it knows.

Intriguing. Assuming, momentarily, that it exists as portrayed; will it let you do that? Will whoever is guarding it now (if anyone guards it at all) let you do that?

Well it wouldn't be here if it wouldn't.

Originally posted by rememberence
Well it wouldn't be here if it wouldn't.

What? It's sitting in your living room, kitchen, apartment, etc. and you need the user's manual?

Originally posted by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by rememberence
Well it wouldn't be here if it wouldn't.

What? It's sitting in your living room, kitchen, apartment, etc. and you need the user's manual?

I have no idea what that means.

I meant it wouldn't be here if it wouldn't tell me what I need to know?

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Originally posted by rememberence
I have no idea what that means.

I meant it wouldn't be here if it wouldn't tell me what I need to know?

For one, where is "here"?

For two, what do you need to know?

For three, why do you need to know?

You stated earlier that you had information to share in order to clarify things.

Originally posted by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by rememberence
I have no idea what that means.

I meant it wouldn't be here if it wouldn't tell me what I need to know?

For one, where is "here"?

For two, what do you need to know?

For three, why do you need to know?

You stated earlier that you had information to share in order to clarify things.

Ask yourself one question. Do you really want to know.

Originally posted by rememberence
Ask yourself one question. Do you really want to know.

I've asked myself that for awhile now and I've come to realize I was raised to be prepared to find out.

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*Smiles softly.* Good. Now ask yourself a second question:

Are you prepared to make that decision for everyone?

Originally posted by rememberence
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*Smiles softly.* Good. Now ask yourself a second question:

Are you prepared to make that decision for everyone?

That would require more information. Possibly yes, possibly no. So long as the final decision is a genuinely loving act and not a selfish one.

Originally posted by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by rememberence
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*Smiles softly.* Good. Now ask yourself a second question:

Are you prepared to make that decision for everyone?

That would require more information. Possibly yes, possibly no. So long as the final decision is a genuinely loving act and not a selfish one.

*Smiles.* Good. And the third and most important question. Are you prepared to accept the truth?

Originally posted by rememberence
*Smiles.* Good. And the third and most important question. Are you prepared to accept the truth?

I feel personally prepared, yes. As for others, I won't speak in their place at this point.

Originally posted by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by rememberence
*Smiles.* Good. And the third and most important question. Are you prepared to accept the truth?

I feel personally prepared, yes. As for others, I won't speak in their place at this point.

A large portion will entirely disbelieve me, *Grins.* Which is good.

Very well then, here is what I know.

Three nights ago I proved my own existence. Which is an incredible mind job and hurts a lot.

Every little relevant bit of knowledge I've ever had or stumbled upon from every source suddenly snapped together in my head. Painfully.

With said hypothesis my mind then pulled in every second bit of knowledge stumbled upon to Prove that hypothesis. Again painfully.

So here is what I know:

The only justification I've been able to ascribe my own existence is coming.

And it's bad. It's really really bad.

However, it has happened before.

And the lumin thing would be some remnant of whatever previous culture/civilization encountered it.

Which means I really need to know what it knows.

So I can stop it - given I'm the only one who can possibly understand it. Both the Lumen and what's coming.

I will say there is an important difference this time though. We're not just dealing with Good and Evil, but Order and Chaos.

And one last thing is that I could be wrong. I don't /know/. I just know that everything adds up far too perfectly, and the consequences of me /not/ acting are far too dire.

However I will say that the way my mind works is incredible. It's like looking into the way the world works. I can see into hundreds or thousands of seemingly unrelated events and see how they all tie together.

It's wild.
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Originally posted by emsed1
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I can only narrow down its location to a continent. Asia.

The only method I know of to receive its knowledge is to be within touching distance, appr. 1 meter.

After the events last fall in Iceland it had been returned to its original 'custodians' and the Illuminon that remain may not even know it's exact location at the moment.

I suppose the big question now is: If you can't find 'it', can 'it' find you?

I would ask if you are prepared for that eventuality, but perhaps it doesn't matter if you are or aren't.

You've seen the preview of how things are going to go down, yet you are undeterred.

Do you have doubts?

*Sighs.* Yes and no. And the Yes only exists because of what my mind was required to do. I am both Logical and Metaphysical. That hurts.

Originally posted by rememberence
A large portion will entirely disbelieve me, *Grins.* Which is good.

Perhaps it's good or perhaps it's irrelevant.

So here is what I know:

The only justification I've been able to ascribe my own existence is coming.

And it's bad. It's really really bad.

Your only justification for existence is to stop what's coming?

However, it has happened before.

And the lumin thing would be some remnant of whatever previous culture/civilization encountered it.

As a guide, you mean?

Which means I really need to know what it knows.

So I can stop it - given I'm the only one who can possibly understand it. Both the Lumen and what's coming.

Well, try, my friend, at least to help us understand. I'm not even convinced anything should be stopped at this point.

I will say there is an important difference this time though. We're not just dealing with Good and Evil, but Order and Chaos.

Law itself breaks down in some way? Is something wrong with the universe?

Now that you've started, don't hold back.

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Everything is balanced in threes. Grr...this is hard to explain.

Choas ascribes no rules. No laws. There is no good, there is no evil. There is nothing but chaos. Utter pure chaos.

There is no balance.


What could happen is: I don't know. Even I can't calculate Chaos.

However - with the knowledge of a previous civilization that's encountered it? I can anticipate it.

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Originally posted by rememberence
And the lumin thing would be some remnant of whatever previous culture/civilization encountered it.

Which means I really need to know what it knows.

So I can stop it - given I'm the only one who can possibly understand it. Both the Lumen and what's coming.

Sir, what is the rationale behind the making of your claim quoted and emphasised above?

Originally posted by Cadbury

Originally posted by rememberence
And the lumin thing would be some remnant of whatever previous culture/civilization encountered it.

Which means I really need to know what it knows.

So I can stop it - given I'm the only one who can possibly understand it. Both the Lumen and what's coming.

Sir, what is the rationale behind the making of your claim quoted and emphasised above?

*Sighs.* I feel like a Human AI. The best way I can explain it is that I can calculate things that aren't supposed to be calculated.

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