Uncle beheads toddler in supermarket

reply to post by Britguy


Dude,

We are talking about a public beheading!

Name one time you heard of the beheading of an infant in a supermarket over a family dispute in America. I'm not saying that school shootings and other random acts of evil aren't the same as this but....

I got the vibe this has become an accepted thing.

"The kid wouldn't listen, so I chopped his head off."

What the hell!!!!!

Is this the sort of thinking going on in that part of the world?

This is just crazy!

reply to post by Alxandro


So hey. Are you going to turn over a new leaf, and cease your cheers when Palestinian children are killed in the conflict there? Because I seem to remember you telling me they all deserve to die.

I'm glad to see your heart growing three sizes. Maybe it'll start beating eventually!

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
What I see on this thread is a big reason why I don't post much anymore... They are quick to defend a group of people who are obviously creating problems in this world, yet, they want to shift blame on others with their out of this world conspiracy theories. It's rather insulting to my intelligence, really.

Did you read This post above or were you simply too busy frothing at the mouth in your rabidity?

Look, one of the cases is from Texas....

OK folks. This is a heated discussion on a devistating topic. That doesn't mean that we suspend the T&C because of that. Decorum folks. Remember, we are all ATS members here, please act as such.

reply to post by Freeborn


My point exactly Freeborn.

Quite simply you cannot, ever, taint everyone with the same brush. That way lies madness, gas chambers and final solutions. History has given us a very very pertinent lesson in that field. I'm ashamed that quite a few people don't seem to have learned it.

A sick deranged individual is a sick deranged individual be they a christian, a muslim, a jew, a buddhist, a taoist, a maoist, a hindu...etc.

Sadly some people want to put their predjudices above everything else and seek to judge solely based on them.

You know, one of the sad things about religion is that it doesn't unite people, it divides them.

In 1976-78 I lived and worked as a British soldier in Antrim (7 miles outside Belfast). My young family and I lived in army quarters in the middle of a mixed Catholic/Protestant area. Many active IRA lived around the area. This may sound hard to believe.. because you only know what you will have heard through the media.

Areas in Belfast and Londonderry were split into sectors, either Catholic or Protestant. The problems there were caused by criminal gangs on both sides, as they always were. The bombings, shootings and kneecappings had absolutely nothing to do with religion. They were all Christians, but some were Catholics and some were Protestants and that's what divided them. And they really hated each other.

These days in Ulster, it really doesn't matter which way your religious d**k swings. They still have criminal gangs, but they've finally learned not to discriminate or be prejudicial about religion.

If you have a pluke on your face, squeeze it. Don't cut your head off. You might need it some day.

A couple of points:

Any person who would harm a child in any way is a sick demented individual. It matters not what religion they follow it's sick behavior that doesn't reflect on that faith in any way.

Any person who kills a child deserves the harshest penalty that country or jurisdiction allows.

This action is not dependant on the uncle being Muslim or not; frankly who cares; he's evil.

I don't blame the bystanders for not acting when the mind cannot process what the eye is seeing the body freezes. It's called shock. My prayers go out to the victim, the familiy and the witnesses. God Bless and keep them all and allow them healing and peace.

It would sadly seem that that the MSM has done its job - the filthy asshat posts in this htread show that.


ignore the truth and post all the crap you want.

i read that maradim razbaninof (the syrian) was a jew.......

What was I thinking?

Of course Muslims never criticize western culture.

And of course, it is perfectly reasonable to assume that I am ignorant of Muslim Culture.

Also, Muslim are doing nothing to incite hostilities between the two cultures. All these stories we read are all made up nonsense by people who only want to stir up trouble.

And there are no Muslims here on this website. Gee, sure could a fooled me.

Originally posted by poet1b

Also, Muslim are doing nothing to incite hostilities between the two cultures. All these stories we read are all made up nonsense by people who only want to stir up trouble.

Ofcourse, because we dont hear or see all the children slaughtered in the name of Christianity/democracy and Oil in MSM, no we hear of a sick bastard from some middle east country decapitating a child instead.

Try search around the web for pictures of victims of the wars in Palestine and Iraq, then you would start wondering why we do not hear of these stories...

Come on folks lets stay on topic and not turn this into a free for all bashing each other and religion.

reply to post by poet1b


Wow.. I'm impressed. Could have done with someone like you on the streets of Belfast. I remember pulling the body of a young boy with half his head blown away, out of Lough Neagh. Sadly, I forgot to ask if he was a Muslim before I carefully wrapped him up.

reply to post by Zanzibar


I don't meant to take the thread off topic but the death penalty shouldn't be seen as punishment. It should be seen as justice.

Originally posted by Areal51
reply to post by Zanzibar

 

I don't meant to take the thread off topic but the death penalty shouldn't be seen as punishment. It should be seen as justice.

This is, or at least should be, completely dependent on the type of crime commited man.

Non-violent crime offenders should not have to taste capitol punishment.

The man that killed this child should be put to death. It's justified so sure you can call that justice. The important thing is simply preventing this man from doing it again...

When conflicts exist, are they more likely to turn violent from a discussion of the issues, or from a failure to discuss the issues?

It seems to me that when the discussion ends, the violence usually tends to follow, and it doesn't so much matter who started what as to when the discussion broke down and the violence began.

We can either express our opinions and look for some honest feedback, or we can keep them bottled up and allow them to stew.

Then again, it seems to me that history tends to repeat itself. Then again, I am an optimist, I think that these growing hostilities can still be diffused by some frank discussion. I haven't accused anyone of anything, or tried to claim one group was better than the other, at least not on this forum. I offered my honest opinion of the situation. Maybe I am wrong, but nobody seems to want to to do anything but bash the expression of the opinion, and this, I think is the biggest problem.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by _Phoenix_

 

Please tell me where I claimed anyone was defending this guy for his crime.

Well that's what you were pretty much agreeing with, you and your buddy.

Here's what you want to see.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
reply to post by poet1b

 

True,Poet. Yet, we live in a society that victimizes the assaulter.. Some here expect us to feel sorry for the scum bag piece of # that did this!!! I'm sorry but I have no feelings for the guy at all.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by SpeakerofTruth

 

Exactly, everyone is too busy being politically correct to have a frank discussion.

"Oh, we can't blame him or them or anyone for ever doing anything wrong, stop being so critical."

You agreed with what he said. See? lol

All I see from you two is two people looking at a story with little info, so you decide to fill in the "blanks" with your views and agendas. This has nothing to do with religion, but yet you keep on bringing it into the thread, you have an agenda, because from the LITTLE information we have on this subject, somehow you make a HUGE thing out of it being from a muslim country, and you have a lot to say about it, all this from a little article that mentions nothing about the man's religion.

So basically your taking this chance to enjoy the freedom of bashing muslims. You take any chance you have.

If this were not about bashing muslims, the thread would be full of "oh disgusting man" " hey that's so evil what that man did!"
Not all this religion stuff? Why bring it into the discussion when obviously this has nothing to do with religion, just simply a crazy man who got too angry.

[edit on 3-3-2008 by _Phoenix_]

Originally posted by gallopinghordes
A couple of points:

Any person who would harm a child in any way is a sick demented individual. It matters not what religion they follow it's sick behavior that doesn't reflect on that faith in any way.

Exactly. I am pretty sure there isn't anything in the Koran or any eastern religious scripture that suggests decapitating a child as a means to get back at someone. Thus this isn't a Muslim act. This is the act of someone who is wholly lost.

Any person who kills a child deserves the harshest penalty that country or jurisdiction allows.

Hypothetically speaking, what if that countries penalty for this type of crime isn't harsh at all. Hypothetically what are your thoughts on that? Lets say 3 years imprisonment or something easy like that.

Do you think in that instance another country should impose their ideas of morality and justice on another countries? I personally have no qualms with forcing certain moral guidelines. Such as killing children.

[edit on 3-3-2008 by Cloak and Dagger]

reply to post by Cloak and Dagger


Excellent.. An extremely intelligent point of view, and well put. You sound like the kind of guy I could trust.

It's not easy to discuss a subject like this without getting overheated.

OK, I see this has to be broken down to the lowest common denominator. Any further personal posts will be warned.

reply to post by intrepid


just close it