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Uncle beheads toddler in supermarket

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posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
My point: It takes all kinds, its not just those evil satanic muslims, OK? All kinds, and please dont get me going on this religion stuff, it should have never been "religion" in the first place.




Seriously, anyone can do a bad deed? No way!


Alls Im saying is that whilst most muslims do not behead people, the only online evidence I have of beheadings associated with religion in the modern world is with Islam- I have footage of Muslims beheading Americans, Russians, Koreans, etc QUOTING the Koran.

I have not found similar online footage of a Christian (quoting the Bible), JEw (quoting the Torah), Bhuddist (quoting things they quote) etc and beheading someone- has anyone a link?



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 09:58 AM
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Ah,and all that thanks to modern technology and since 2001.

Its a little dubious why anyone would want to "capture the moment" unless it was for "effect", propaganda, shock, agendas, etc.
Go figure, i sure cannot.
Its also not our m.o. to intentionally film ourselves killing grandma. Its just not done, and there would be no purpose to it.



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Ah,and all that thanks to modern technology and since 2001.



Its a little dubious why anyone would want to "capture the moment" unless it was for "effect", propaganda, shock, agendas, etc.
Go figure, i sure cannot.
Its also not our m.o. to intentionally film ourselves killing grandma. Its just not done, and there would be no purpose to it.



Because it is not done in the name of "CHRIST", you are are referring to domestic murder, unlike these followers of Mohammed who beheaded the Yanks, Korean, Russian etc



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 10:06 AM
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Ok, Blueorder, yup, you won.

I dont want to play anymore.



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 10:19 AM
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Really good points untill .....

..... your start sounding very brainwashed american

Saudi Arabia send all Terrorists for 911

NO!!!! its proven beyond any reasonable doubt all hijackers are agents of the CIA
educated payed and used for many years by the CIA

Dont report on issues you dont understand and please refrain form comments on Muslims as you sure as hell have NO idea

Read and educate yourself first ..



Jesuz Loves you ..... in your signature

sure he does ..Just he never excisted ...go and wear your cross ..

do you think Jesuz wants to be reminded of the barbaric way he got killed ...
Almost as cruel as deheading ...So you go on and wear your cross around your neck practically celebrating the death of your saviour ..Kinda sick in my book ..but hey its your made up religion ..
So wear your symbol be part of something ...even though it s the BIGGEST lie that ever was created ...


Religion is for fools that need to replace mommies guiding hand with something when they grow up ...
They just do not have the capacity to see you are GOD we all ARE GOD !!!



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 10:19 AM
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blueorder - who are you? i recogise your posting style from a previous member on here



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 10:21 AM
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Blueorder, where in that article does it say that he was a muslim? What it says is that he was a Syrian national. Did you know there are Jews and Christians in Syria and in Saudi Arabia that live peacefully together. I know, it's convenient and furthers your agenda to just say he was a Muslim. Remember deny ignorance, don't spread it.



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 10:22 AM
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Right, instead you have Christians hanging, dragging people behind pickup trucks, and burning crosses while reading passages of the bible.

Then you have Jews in Israel bombing children in open fields and taking pot shots at kids playing soccer in the street.

And we have Muslims beheading people while quoting the Quran.

Same $#!+ different laxative. Your point is null.



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 10:26 AM
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Also, as pointed out countless times in this thread, there is nothing that says this has anything to do with religion. Using this tragedy as a means to garner support for the hatred of Muslims is inaccurate and insulting to the victim.



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by Harlequin
blueorder - who are you? i recogise your posting style from a previous member on here


Just myself, registered ages ago



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by taybes
Blueorder, where in that article does it say that he was a muslim?


no where, although the odds of a syrian in Saudi Arabia not being muslim would be exceedingly high



What it says is that he was a Syrian national. Did you know there are Jews and Christians in Syria and in Saudi Arabia that live peacefully together.



perhaps in Syria, but not in Saudi Arabia, in Saudi Arabia it is illegal for a citizen to be anything other than a Muslim.

The government claims that it permits the right of non muslims to practice their religion behind closed doors ( a defence which, at best, confers second class status on non muslims) but does not do so in practice.

There are no churches permitted in Saudi Arabia and one would not be permitted to read a bible in public or display a cross.

It is a country that makes South African apartheid look like paradise, yet does not receive the same university protests, left wing hate etc (I agree the US policy of supportin the regime is questionable though)



I know, it's convenient and furthers your agenda to just say he was a Muslim.



I didn't say he was, just that it is highly likely he was, although we have no definite confirmation (I dont think the murder was connected with Islam in any event)



Remember deny ignorance, don't spread it.


quite ironic



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Right, instead you have Christians hanging, dragging people behind pickup trucks, and burning crosses while reading passages of the bible.



you have an incident where a Christian dragged someone behind a pickup and did this action in furtherance of the message of Christ, quoting the bible etc?

Link me now




Then you have Jews in Israel bombing children in open fields and taking pot shots at kids playing soccer in the street.



You have incidents of the Israeli killing kids to spread Judaism?

Link now





And we have Muslims beheading people while quoting the Quran.


yes, yes we do




Same $#!+ different laxative. Your point is null.



Nonsense, your cowardly relativism is null- this is not the world of absoloutes, and eventually you may be able to link to a story where a Christian, quoting the bible, and proclaiming his actions as furthering the glory of Christ, while beheading someone, but never on the scale for sane comparison with the modern day followers of mohammed



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 10:52 AM
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This isn't about Islam or the West. This is about humanity. They come in all colors, shapes, and sizes.

Of all the species on planet earth, humans are by far the most demented, psychotic, subjective, hypocritical, ambivalent, dissonant, and delusional.

Humans are so delusional and dissonant they cannot see what their own race, nation, or religion does and blame only others.

I would almost not be surprised if one day Aliens or Artificial Machine Intelligences made it their goal to exterminate humanity, almost.

I think rather, as long as there are a few good people in this world, humanity as a species will not be completely lost.



"The Lord saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. The Lord was grieved that He had made man on the earth, and His heart was filled with pain. So the Lord said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth,men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air-for I am grieved that I have made them." Genesis 6:5-7



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 12:29 PM
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you can't blame an entire nation for other people's wrongdoings.
This act was sick, no one is arguing that.
but also dont forget that this has NOTHING to do with women, the toddler was a male...



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 12:51 PM
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You can say the same about Islam. Murdering children isn't party of real Muslim beliefs.


I didn't say it was.
I absolutely agree that is against the precepts of Islam, too - no doubt about it.
(It didn't stop all those Ottoman troops, three hundred years ago - or indeed less than 100 years ago, in Armenia - from doing just that to many thousands of children. But I did say in my post I don't consider them to have been "good Muslims".)






[edit on 4-3-2008 by Vanitas]



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 12:53 PM
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He did it to get back at the mother of the child. Read the article, please.
Islam has a horrible record when it comes to women's rights.
And I would say that about a Christian cult beating women for exposing a wrist as well(as they now do in Afghanistan!)
I don't believe ALL muslims are bad. I used to date a Palestinian!
I don't believe we should go to war with Iran and I think the West has been lied to about the facts many times!

[edit on 4-3-2008 by Clearskies]



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 12:54 PM
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or maybe she said ` no i think your totally mad and don`t want you near my family` - and he killed the kid cause he was mad.....



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 12:58 PM
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I have read the article.

I just think this is more the work of a radical rather than that of a normal Muslim.
Normally, punishment would be directed directly to the woman, not her infant, especially her infant SON.
Thats why I believe this is simply the work of a radical.

The crime is atrocious, but there are plenty of people in every religion that commit these types of crimes.
perhaps not beheading little boys, but equally as sick.



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 01:00 PM
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one of those lies you talk about, imo, is 9/11.
and earlier you stated that this crime is from a country that served host to all the plane hijackers.



The amount of kissing up to the country that supposedly sent ALL of the 911 hijackers is not good!


I don't agree, but thats just MY honest opinion.
I can see how other people would see it that way though, because they have been lied to.

[edit on 4-3-2008 by Odessy]



posted on Mar, 4 2008 @ 01:42 PM
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This is a religion of peace and a man beheads a 15 month child, this man is sick and needs to have the same thing done to him in public




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