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The Chinese are preparing for a War
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Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
World War 2. American fleet and operations in the pacific torn apart for an entire year by a tiny country which could not match the American industry in any real way.
If you look back, you'll see that Australia warned us in advance of the approaching Japanese fleet. But, we ignored it. I'm sure all that tells you is that: "Americans are idiots". But, if you were to really think about that, you might find something more meaningful and take a hint.
the chinese are a stubborn and old race that cant escape its insaciable need to conquer and impose its tyranny on others. Like a fat man on a plane
taking up both arm rests. They not only enslave there own people, but others, its a crime, but whos willing to stop them? Oh yeah..God. And trust
me coincidence is much more damaging than all out war. Failure is the only possibilty china has in this scheming, my guess iss its loosely tied to
one or several people in the government, once they die of too much opium and high MSG foods, china will go back to being a tourist attraction.
Thankyou octopuss for showing your true intentions for all to view.
Enough of you.
Excuse me for that late night fight, yet I have the back of any American that stands to up hold the Constitution and feel very strongly about it.
If there were a time when 80,000 or 80million crossed our borders to take our country away because they have played out their own resources, I will stand up and defend my little part of this country and have the fullest intention of being the victor. I will not surrender my guns ever, and will not stand by and watch as my neighbors family and friends stand by helplessly and unprotected. Period.
Enough of you.
Excuse me for that late night fight, yet I have the back of any American that stands to up hold the Constitution and feel very strongly about it.
If there were a time when 80,000 or 80million crossed our borders to take our country away because they have played out their own resources, I will stand up and defend my little part of this country and have the fullest intention of being the victor. I will not surrender my guns ever, and will not stand by and watch as my neighbors family and friends stand by helplessly and unprotected. Period.
LOL. By the looks of it, Australians will lay down when they're attacked. At least some here kinda of point to that idea by the way they respond to American's ideas of defending their country when attacked.
Let's go invade Australia. It'll be a cakewalk.
NOTE: Yes, this was sarcasm, and I realize that you were referring to the way in which some statements were made, but also, you generalized a population.
Hehehe, you know nothing of Australian character, it seems.
If Australia is attacked and it needs to fight...well, just go look at the Kokoda track, or Gallipoli.
i can generalise a population all i want, simply because if you were all so willing to change and live by the constitution blah blah, you would have done it by now, correct?
Australia is one of America's best allies, and one of the few to stand with us on the War on Terror.
I think alot of it was due to the Bali bombings, but i still dont understand why we are in this pointless war, we caught the Bali bombers already!
Will China attack the US? I don't know.
But the day may come when people have to choose if they're going to fight or become slaves.
I'm not for fighting a war with China, but if they start one, then I'm gonna be standing in line to kill commies too.
If that day comes, I hope some Australians will be standing with us.
Um, fight or become slaves? How do you come to that conclusion?
Consider the Roman Empire, who integrated captured people into their Empire, if not as citizens they werent slaves.
If your talking of becoming communist then you really need to learn more about the difference between a slave and a communist. Stand in line to 'kill commies' all you want. I know your going to enjoy it.
If you look back, you'll see that Australia warned us in advance of the approaching Japanese fleet. But, we ignored it. I'm sure all that tells you is that: "Americans are idiots". But, if you were to really think about that, you might find something more meaningful and take a hint.
No, ive already studied and discussed this with many many friends. The Americans may have known of the attack on Pearl Harbour, but they didnt let it happen.
consider that all the Carriers were on manouvres at the time:
1. No one in the world knew the power of the carrier at that time, they all still relied on the power of the battleship.
2. They may have been on manouvres because they wanted to get the Japanese fleet before it reached an American base.
You may not have been idiots, you just stubbornly believed in your own invulnerability compared to the 'sub human' japanese (from your own posters and propeganda)
No, not all Americans are stupid. But i do see them being stubborn and following ideas which are...misguided, and refusing to say that they are wrong.
the chinese are a stubborn and old race that cant escape its insaciable need to conquer and impose its tyranny on others. Like a fat man on a plane taking up both arm rests.
Manifest Destiny? War against Terror?
It works both ways you know.
They not only enslave there own people, but others, its a crime
Im sorry? what is this?
Is this about Communism again?
Oh yeah..God. And trust me coincidence is much more damaging than all out war. Failure is the only possibilty china has in this scheming, my guess iss its loosely tied to one or several people in the government, once they die of too much opium and high MSG foods, china will go back to being a tourist attraction.
You are racist and compacent and idiotic.
In Scheming the Chinese could very well demolish you, as long as you believe that is inconcievable, the greater the chance is that it happens.
Thankyou octopuss for showing your true intentions for all to view.
Enough of you.
HA! Octopuss, now your just being Childish. Cant you see sense?
Excuse me for that late night fight, yet I have the back of any American that stands to up hold the Constitution and feel very strongly about it.
I know, you all do. Its like a Thrall. You believe it to be definative and that all the world should follow it.
Obviously, you are not correct.
If there were a time when 80,000 or 80million crossed our borders to take our country away because they have played out their own resources, I will stand up and defend my little part of this country and have the fullest intention of being the victor. I will not surrender my guns ever, and will not stand by and watch as my neighbors family and friends stand by helplessly and unprotected. Period.
But you do condone the killing of thousands of innocent Chinese, correct?
It works both ways. You should remember that.
Look octopuss minimus, go back to your rant section your redundance bores me now. I just realized you are probably about 12 years old.
Know this : I do not wish to see any blood shed any time any where of any human or beast.
Know this : I do not wish to see any blood shed any time any where of any human or beast.
Look octopuss minimus, go back to your rant section your redundance bores me now. I just realized you are probably about 12 years old.
Sorry, not correct.
Again. hehehe
Im redundant.
Alright, ill conform.
Man, i wish us American homies could go over to China and "S N I P" up those evil commie selfish bastards who eat babies and have no womens rights!
Communists are so evil. Equality for all?! Bah! How wrong is that?
I think we should kill ALL the Chinese, simply because they are being communists, and hense evil. My loving peaceful christian heart tells me to burn them all at the stake. Im sure god holds a rifle and shoots commies too he'd be proud of us!
Why even bother going over to China? Why dont we just nuke them from here. We'll target the population centres, its the only humane thing to do. That means if we go over there later then we only have to worry about their military because there wont be any civilians left! Its brilliant!
I love my constitution that provides freedom for all people on this earth. Still, those commies arnt people because they want equality. They should become a democracy, i say! Collating that many votes would be simple...wouldnt it?!
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I feel dirty now. *shudders*
Know this : I do not wish to see any blood shed any time any where of any human or beast.
Doesnt sound like it. It really doesnt.
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reply to post by Octavius Maximus
First of all I haven't killed million of innocents... laying down blanket statements about all Americans is rather fallacious. Insulting my intelligence, over some imagined slight is also rather ridiculous. I am not personally going to take responsibility for the actions that our government, which I vehemently disagree with has taken. I have been outspoken in my own community in defiance of both the war in Iraq, our mistreatment of muslims since 9/11, and many things that I realize that are wrong with the country I am a citizen of.
If you have felt that I was attempting to talk down to you I apologize, I really do. Before you strike back, and assume that last statement was meant in a sarcastic manner, please understand that it is not meant that way. I really don't want a confrontation with you. There is no point to it. Neither of us will gain any type of real insight in what we are talking about here by continuing this argument. What I was trying to convey in my last post was that others, not myself, are just trying to get a rise out of you. Also, that THEY might find it to be laughable if you continue to rampage. I also didn't mean to come off as a hypocrite, the only reason I backed the moron up was that he seemed to be trying to redeem himself at least to some degree. If you choose to go after him anyway, more power to you, he did make alot of ignorant statements beforehand. It's just that if I were in your position, I would have backed off some. That is where we differ and that is fine, but don't attack me for defending him to some degree.
I realize that I live in a country where my freedoms are all but imaginary. I realize that we wage war after war for absolutely no reason, except for personal gain. These are not decisions I would have made. This country has become the terrorists, and the government's decisions over the past three decades are what created these militant groups that no want to see us fall. This country put the Taliban in power because we wanted the powers that be to be ousted. This country provided most of the military hardware Iraq is now using against us. The list goes on and on. Just understand that I agree with your views regardless of the fact that I am an American. I just haven't necessarily agreed the methods you have used to convey them. If we, as in you and I, could find a healthy middle ground, I imagine we could have a pretty good conversation. If you want to attack how this government works, or how a good portion of the population is ignorant rednecks you go right ahead. Just don't attack me personally.
First of all I haven't killed million of innocents... laying down blanket statements about all Americans is rather fallacious. Insulting my intelligence, over some imagined slight is also rather ridiculous. I am not personally going to take responsibility for the actions that our government, which I vehemently disagree with has taken. I have been outspoken in my own community in defiance of both the war in Iraq, our mistreatment of muslims since 9/11, and many things that I realize that are wrong with the country I am a citizen of.
If you have felt that I was attempting to talk down to you I apologize, I really do. Before you strike back, and assume that last statement was meant in a sarcastic manner, please understand that it is not meant that way. I really don't want a confrontation with you. There is no point to it. Neither of us will gain any type of real insight in what we are talking about here by continuing this argument. What I was trying to convey in my last post was that others, not myself, are just trying to get a rise out of you. Also, that THEY might find it to be laughable if you continue to rampage. I also didn't mean to come off as a hypocrite, the only reason I backed the moron up was that he seemed to be trying to redeem himself at least to some degree. If you choose to go after him anyway, more power to you, he did make alot of ignorant statements beforehand. It's just that if I were in your position, I would have backed off some. That is where we differ and that is fine, but don't attack me for defending him to some degree.
I realize that I live in a country where my freedoms are all but imaginary. I realize that we wage war after war for absolutely no reason, except for personal gain. These are not decisions I would have made. This country has become the terrorists, and the government's decisions over the past three decades are what created these militant groups that no want to see us fall. This country put the Taliban in power because we wanted the powers that be to be ousted. This country provided most of the military hardware Iraq is now using against us. The list goes on and on. Just understand that I agree with your views regardless of the fact that I am an American. I just haven't necessarily agreed the methods you have used to convey them. If we, as in you and I, could find a healthy middle ground, I imagine we could have a pretty good conversation. If you want to attack how this government works, or how a good portion of the population is ignorant rednecks you go right ahead. Just don't attack me personally.
First of all I haven't killed million of innocents... laying down blanket statements about all Americans is rather fallacious.
Well its kinda meant to be taken as a blanket statement.
Its been about 50 years since America dropped 2 atomic bombs on japanese civilians.
Where is the Justice? Why havnt the people taken action.
If my government did that i know basically there would probably be a huge strike of almost every single person and buisness, and angered protest. It would get results.
Luckily, i know my government cant nuke countries, noone should have that power or option.
Insulting my intelligence, over some imagined slight is also rather ridiculous. I am not personally going to take responsibility for the actions that our government, which I vehemently disagree with has taken. I have been outspoken in my own community in defiance of both the war in Iraq, our mistreatment of muslims since 9/11, and many things that I realize that are wrong with the country I am a citizen of.
perhaps, perhaps not. A country is made up of individuals. if nothing is happening its because the individuals arent doing enough to make it change. Perhaps you are doing your share, why isnt everyone else?
If you have felt that I was attempting to talk down to you I apologize, I really do. Before you strike back, and assume that last statement was meant in a sarcastic manner, please understand that it is not meant that way. I really don't want a confrontation with you. There is no point to it. Neither of us will gain any type of real insight in what we are talking about here by continuing this argument.
Then i accept your apology. Im sorry for attacking you, as you may realise my sense of pride an honour is quite sharp. But i just dont get America. i can understand anything else, but no matter how hard i try all i see is good steps towards changing things for the better being stopped either by your government or by the people.
What I was trying to convey in my last post was that others, not myself, are just trying to get a rise out of you. Also, that THEY might find it to be laughable if you continue to rampage
I didnt notice it. Oh well, mroes the pity for a waste of human life. if they were only seeking to 'get a rise out of me', perhaps they should consider suicide? Its a much faster way of wasting life.
I also didn't mean to come off as a hypocrite, the only reason I backed the moron up was that he seemed to be trying to redeem himself at least to some degree. If you choose to go after him anyway, more power to you, he did make alot of ignorant statements beforehand. It's just that if I were in your position, I would have backed off some. That is where we differ and that is fine, but don't attack me for defending him to some degree.
I didnt see redemption, i saw excuses. He wanted to justify what he said, you cant justify that kind of stance. I probably should have let off. Oh well, whats been said cannot be unsaid.
I realize that I live in a country where my freedoms are all but imaginary.
Ah, that isnt what i ever say. I say the total opposite. You are trying to attain a level of freedom which will never be attainable by any functioning society.
Freedom is restricted Chaos. Chaos is the purest point of freedom, do you understand me?
I realize that we wage war after war for absolutely no reason, except for personal gain. These are not decisions I would have made. This country has become the terrorists, and the government's decisions over the past three decades are what created these militant groups that no want to see us fall. This country put the Taliban in power because we wanted the powers that be to be ousted. This country provided most of the military hardware Iraq is now using against us.
This is the main reason why i get annoyed when Americans say they would gladly die for their country. but then denounce the militarists in Iraq who are doing the same.
Suicide bombers. They are dying for their country, taking the ultimate leap of faith. Im not saying its right, im saying its the same thing America does, just in a different cultural setting.
The list goes on and on. Just understand that I agree with your views regardless of the fact that I am an American. I just haven't necessarily agreed the methods you have used to convey them. If we, as in you and I, could find a healthy middle ground, I imagine we could have a pretty good conversation. If you want to attack how this government works, or how a good portion of the population is ignorant rednecks you go right ahead. Just don't attack me personally.
This is what i prefer. Just at least as noone begins talking about 'Killing commies' to protect your country. Or taking things such as American military invincibility for granted. Those things get me annoyed.
*Checks Thermometer*
35 degrees celsius...*sigh* its only 1 month into spring.
reply to post by Octavius Maximus
See now we are getting somewhere, I knew that you were a person I could relate to after the hostilities were put aside. If we do end up disagreeing lets just make sure it remains a healthy debate, and doesn't get personal, at least not intentionally, can we agree on that as well? If we can, then I will go into more detail about what you have mentioned in your most recent post.
See now we are getting somewhere, I knew that you were a person I could relate to after the hostilities were put aside. If we do end up disagreeing lets just make sure it remains a healthy debate, and doesn't get personal, at least not intentionally, can we agree on that as well? If we can, then I will go into more detail about what you have mentioned in your most recent post.
reply to post by Octavius Maximus
I'll be on tomorrow, or later today technically. If you want we could start a thread of some sort to continue broader conversations of the status of the U.S. and the world. I think everyone in this thread is guilty of neglecting the original topic. lol..... nice to hear that you are heading into spring. We're just now into fall and considering I'm in Florida, there really isn't that much of a difference between summer and fall... the temperature just changes from hellish to bearable.
I'll be on tomorrow, or later today technically. If you want we could start a thread of some sort to continue broader conversations of the status of the U.S. and the world. I think everyone in this thread is guilty of neglecting the original topic. lol..... nice to hear that you are heading into spring. We're just now into fall and considering I'm in Florida, there really isn't that much of a difference between summer and fall... the temperature just changes from hellish to bearable.
If the chinese really were to invade for some reason than I would be more than happy to fight against them. I have an AK-47, AR-15 and a Mausberg
shotty, that Im sure I could put up a fight against them with. If they are down for some stiches Than Im down for some scars.
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Why would they attack the US? You know you're one of their main customers, right?
Why would they attack the US? You know you're one of their main customers, right?
I'll be on tomorrow, or later today technically. If you want we could start a thread of some sort to continue broader conversations of the status of the U.S. and the world. I think everyone in this thread is guilty of neglecting the original topic. lol..... nice to hear that you are heading into spring. We're just now into fall and considering I'm in Florida, there really isn't that much of a difference between summer and fall... the temperature just changes from hellish to bearable.
If you want check my profile for my thread to see my main greviences
heheh
If the chinese really were to invade for some reason than I would be more than happy to fight against them. I have an AK-47, AR-15 and a Mausberg shotty, that Im sure I could put up a fight against them with. If they are down for some stiches Than Im down for some scars.
Are you part of the army?
Do you know why the Chinese are attacking? Have you given any thought at all to why they want to attack you? Do you think peaceful resolutions could be found?
These questions are convienently forgotten while your blasting holes in 'evil commies' are they?
please get some perspective.
AHEM
Please stop the personal sniping back and forth. It really adds nothing to the debate at hand and if you have to resort to a ad hominem attack, it may be time to take a break and rething your position.
FredT
Please stop the personal sniping back and forth. It really adds nothing to the debate at hand and if you have to resort to a ad hominem attack, it may be time to take a break and rething your position.
FredT
Are you part of the army?
Do you know why the Chinese are attacking? Have you given any thought at all to why they want to attack you? Do you think peaceful resolutions could be found?
These questions are convienently forgotten while your blasting holes in 'evil commies' are they?
please get some perspective.
Think about how psychotic Americans are about there country. Think about how crazy the men are about there family's.These mind controlled slave soldier fools have not a chance against us, unless our criminal government wants them to win. I am seeing this as a real scenario. I laugh in there face.plus the scum will have to fight over the sea.
DWT
No sir I'm not part of the army and no I do not know if they would ever attack us. I was agreeing to this above statement showing that I would protect where I live and my family. Just as allot of these threads in some pars of the forum or based on predictions and people just throwing guesses out there, isn't it possible that this could be one of those.....
Read all the post's on a thread before you say something, hypothetical situations require hypothetical answers.
No sir I'm not part of the army and no I do not know if they would ever attack us. I was agreeing to this above statement showing that I would protect where I live and my family. Just as allot of these threads in some pars of the forum or based on predictions and people just throwing guesses out there, isn't it possible that this could be one of those.....
Read all the post's on a thread before you say something, hypothetical situations require hypothetical answers.
Ive been here since post 1, you may notice got 2 warnings for it too.
Threads are bad for my health.
Anyway, im just wondering where this enthusiasm to kill communists is.
When a country attacks another, its for a reason. Perhaps if people tried to understand that reason war would be averted.
China has no need to invade the US, and frankly I doubt they ever will. What I believe will happen is this:
As the US economy crumbles under the weight of the new imperial model they created (all the benefits of colonial rule while little to none of the costs) Multi-National Corporate Finance Capital (which has latched onto the US like a parasite, sucking dry all her natural resources including the blood of its people) will simply move onto China. China will rise as the new superpower free to persue the economic interventionist policies the US leaders, media mouthpieces, robber-barons, and plutocrats helped formulate.
The threat of communism as im sure you are aware of was beaten to death during the cold war. But few really actually took time to analyze why communism was such a threat.
Oh sure, there were those usual media mouthpieces screaming the party lines, totalitarian, undemocratic, no rights, atrocities, ect, ect. But none chose to analyze and voice the class dynamics of the two systems (Capitalism (now read, Corpratism) and Communism)
Im going to be glib and summerise the issues because, frankly, such an analysis can lead to volumes of written pages. (Note, when speaking about a system or a country, i do not mean to say the people of such systems and countries supported the actions of their government.)
It is said that the US administrations during the times of the Cold War (and threw on to the future) opposed the USSR because of its undemocratic nature and the way it treats its people. But during, before, and after that time, successive US administrations had and have, activily supported terrorists, international drug runners/dealers, military junta's, dictators, fascists, and all around tyrants. (This is a matter of public record, despute it all you want, its fact)
If the US supports such governments and people in actions of subversion, terrorism, destabilization and destruction, why then do they claim Communism is a threat to democracy and democratic action worldwide?
Well its becuase the whole issue is a red herring. The reason Communism (and now, Socialism) was/is such a threat to the US is because of the way its society is organized. In Communism or Socialism, workers tend to hold the power. There is a redistrubtion of wealth that favors the people rather than the giant multi-national corporations or rich. There is land redistribution that again favors the people that need it, rather than the people that want it for profit. What does this mean? Basically it means those in the middle and lower classes (the many) are favored over those in the higher class (the few). To cut this paragraph short, Private Capital Accumulation in a real Communist/Socialist country is relatively limited if it exists at all. Whereas Capitalism is the clear opposite.
As the US economy crumbles under the weight of the new imperial model they created (all the benefits of colonial rule while little to none of the costs) Multi-National Corporate Finance Capital (which has latched onto the US like a parasite, sucking dry all her natural resources including the blood of its people) will simply move onto China. China will rise as the new superpower free to persue the economic interventionist policies the US leaders, media mouthpieces, robber-barons, and plutocrats helped formulate.
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
Anyway, im just wondering where this enthusiasm to kill communists is.
The threat of communism as im sure you are aware of was beaten to death during the cold war. But few really actually took time to analyze why communism was such a threat.
Oh sure, there were those usual media mouthpieces screaming the party lines, totalitarian, undemocratic, no rights, atrocities, ect, ect. But none chose to analyze and voice the class dynamics of the two systems (Capitalism (now read, Corpratism) and Communism)
Im going to be glib and summerise the issues because, frankly, such an analysis can lead to volumes of written pages. (Note, when speaking about a system or a country, i do not mean to say the people of such systems and countries supported the actions of their government.)
It is said that the US administrations during the times of the Cold War (and threw on to the future) opposed the USSR because of its undemocratic nature and the way it treats its people. But during, before, and after that time, successive US administrations had and have, activily supported terrorists, international drug runners/dealers, military junta's, dictators, fascists, and all around tyrants. (This is a matter of public record, despute it all you want, its fact)
If the US supports such governments and people in actions of subversion, terrorism, destabilization and destruction, why then do they claim Communism is a threat to democracy and democratic action worldwide?
Well its becuase the whole issue is a red herring. The reason Communism (and now, Socialism) was/is such a threat to the US is because of the way its society is organized. In Communism or Socialism, workers tend to hold the power. There is a redistrubtion of wealth that favors the people rather than the giant multi-national corporations or rich. There is land redistribution that again favors the people that need it, rather than the people that want it for profit. What does this mean? Basically it means those in the middle and lower classes (the many) are favored over those in the higher class (the few). To cut this paragraph short, Private Capital Accumulation in a real Communist/Socialist country is relatively limited if it exists at all. Whereas Capitalism is the clear opposite.
Exactly, very well put.
Now, we know why the US opposes communists.
But this doesnt tell us why the people of the US are so eager to fight communists.
Well if China was to attack the US, would this be counted as a continuation of the war against communism?
Its stranger when you see people declaring each other communists exactly in the same vein as witch hunts were done in Early Modern Europe.
This is an ancient tactic many people have used. hiring mercenaries to fight your foes. You throw money and 2 enemies kill each other.
it can go horribly wrong, though. As we have seen.
Is the hatred of Communism something endemic in US culture? Or is it a memory from the 50s?
A sense of honour?
Now, we know why the US opposes communists.
But this doesnt tell us why the people of the US are so eager to fight communists.
The threat of communism as im sure you are aware of was beaten to death during the cold war. But few really actually took time to analyze why communism was such a threat.
Well if China was to attack the US, would this be counted as a continuation of the war against communism?
Oh sure, there were those usual media mouthpieces screaming the party lines, totalitarian, undemocratic, no rights, atrocities, ect, ect. But none chose to analyze and voice the class dynamics of the two systems (Capitalism (now read, Corpratism) and Communism)
Its stranger when you see people declaring each other communists exactly in the same vein as witch hunts were done in Early Modern Europe.
It is said that the US administrations during the times of the Cold War (and threw on to the future) opposed the USSR because of its undemocratic nature and the way it treats its people. But during, before, and after that time, successive US administrations had and have, activily supported terrorists, international drug runners/dealers, military junta's, dictators, fascists, and all around tyrants. (This is a matter of public record, despute it all you want, its fact)
This is an ancient tactic many people have used. hiring mercenaries to fight your foes. You throw money and 2 enemies kill each other.
it can go horribly wrong, though. As we have seen.
Is the hatred of Communism something endemic in US culture? Or is it a memory from the 50s?
A sense of honour?
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
Exactly, very well put.
Now, we know why the US opposes communists.
But this doesnt tell us why the people of the US are so eager to fight communists.
Thanks
Ah yes sorry for not elaborating on this point. Its really quite simple, its a ploy that has been used for centuries: Demonization.
By utilizing fear tactics (the Reds will take your family and kill your mother), isolating and controlling the flow of positive and negative media (if you look, not one positive thing was mentioned in US national media about the wonderful strides the communist era brought to an oppressed people. See: Czarist russia and the White guards.) And finally denegrating all supporters to the level of terrorists and inhumane creatures, you have effectively created a stigma that will last in popular thinking so long as you occaisionally re-enforce the image from time to time.
Its not anything new, and it certainly hasnt been put to rest.
Well if China was to attack the US, would this be counted as a continuation of the war against communism?
IMO, no. While popular image is that China is a true Communist country (and this is an image they present aswell) the image is far from the truth. "Free-market" penetration has taken roots in China and will continue to spread untill it no longer resembles any Socialist system. If China attacks the US with military force, it will be Capitalist vs. Capitalist. However, the propaganda machine will spin its cogs and put it into a red vs. blue, Commie vs. democracy. Or more acurately, Communist vs. Capitalist.
Its stranger when you see people declaring each other communists exactly in the same vein as witch hunts were done in Early Modern Europe.
Its better (for "them") to obfuscate the issue and have the people point fingers at each other in the dark, than have them organize and analyze the issues of foreign policy, foreing capital penetration, foriegn occupation, and foreign destruction.
This is an ancient tactic many people have used. hiring mercenaries to fight your foes. You throw money and 2 enemies kill each other.
it can go horribly wrong, though. As we have seen.
Not only can it go wrong, but it will go wrong. Launching a proxy war with no oversight has only one ending.
Is the hatred of Communism something endemic in US culture? Or is it a memory from the 50s?
A sense of honour?
No, nothing to do with honour. It is a popular image from the 50's re-enforced from time to time with horror stories and dogmatic rhetoric. Just another brainwash for the North American Public.
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Thanks for the warning about not giving my oppinions to the trolls. Im done here!
And if you are not willing to uphold the constitution, then move to Australia.
Thanks for the warning about not giving my oppinions to the trolls. Im done here!
And if you are not willing to uphold the constitution, then move to Australia.
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