The Chinese are preparing for a War

You are far from genius and it was YOU who started this arguement with your idiotic ramblings and pro-war attitude.

You are now my foe and Octavius is now an ally.

God bless.

reply to post by mr-lizard


I was calling you genius , genius. You cant even figure that out. Yea, I am one of those patriotic whackos that go crazy over chinese troops on the border, and invasion signals.And will die for our women, and childrens safety. Yea I get mad at the opening post saying were doomed. Yea I got a little emotional, that is because I am a leader and not a follower.


Being part of the hive mind surveliance state over in England where everyones already under mind control from a totalitarian shapeshifting reptilian dictatorship, Im not surprise you do not know what in EL going on.
Im out of this childs argument, totally off topic, and pointless"Im his friend, and your my foe" what a baby game.


Ill look out for posting anything near "racist type" comments in the future, Mods spank me at will .

Say what you will, about me, It has no effect.

America's time has just begun.



[edit on 2-10-2007 by dntwastetime]

This cracks me up.

I don't usually get involved in these 'discussions' but I'm sitting here practically doubled over with laughter whilst reading DWT's posts! Seriously....you have to be kidding right? Tell me you are taking the Micky?

Octavius...Andy.....

This guy's a moron, at first I found his posts racist and rude but better than adding him to my ignore list I've found a better way to make a positive from a very negative little person. Next time you read one of his posts, imagine a very agitated Mr T or B.A. from the A-Team saying what he writes........"cut your jibba jabba" fool! Seriously....I'm laughing my socks off here at the little nationalist inbreed!

watch this and think of him!



"I ain't getting on no damn plane"

Cheers

Robbie

[edit on 2-10-2007 by stratsys-sws]


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[edit on 10/4/2007 by benevolent tyrant]

Another case of pro-american racism on this website. I'm referring of course to the second post and the fact that moderators won't deduct any of your points or slap a warning on you. Yet, whenever I make a comment similar to this (but not pro-american), I lose points...

Pff, who cares about the points? Its just all "S N I P".

Ive had warnings before, all i was doing was calling an idiot an idiot.

Can a moderator please explain to me why dntwastetime isn't being penalized for his racist and insulting comments!!!???

because he is talking about America, the worlds guiding light which can do no wrong, duh [/idiotspeak]

Octavius, I thank you for standing up to this nationalist idiot. (But what's the bet it's me who gets a warning now for calling him an idiot?)

If you get a warning i will personally ask for it to be distributed amongst Whatshisname and me, instead of you.

They havent penalized me, Because they havent seen it yet I just posted it genius. The child still wants to fight with me. I stop arguing because Ive said enough, and this isnt a place to argue.Its a place of knowledge and not insult. I do believe the child started the insulting, and wants it to continue.

You just invite argument, you have no knowledge and the only insult is your continued existence.

I dont mind being called the child, really. We are the young country. Only room to grow.

Americas time is passing, they are fading and dying...much faster than most countries do, aswell.

Take all my points I dont care Im not here for points. I am here for knowledge, and if I insulted anyone besides om im sorry.

I love it when people call me om, too. If anyone knows Terry pratchett books they should know about the Great god Om

You are far from genius and it was YOU who started this arguement with your idiotic ramblings and pro-war attitude.

You are now my foe and Octavius is now an ally.

God bless.

Woot!

I was calling you genius , genius. You cant even figure that out. Yea I am one of those patriotic whackos that go crazy over troop on the border and invasion signals

hehehe, get to your guns, soldier. Theres blood that needs spilling. Its probably going to be yours.

but your only one American (or one and a half, it depends how much you weigh) so eh, plenty more where that came from.

our over in England where everyones already under a totalitarian dictatorship. Im not surprise you do not know whats going on.
Im out.

You owe England your existence, so do i. I have respect for the British (even though i take every oppertunity to make fun of the Poms, but thats just convention )

You yanks, though. No respect, nothing.

Why dont you get some thicker skin instead of crying when i finally break it to you that your *s'n-word's* ULTRA SUPER PATRIOTISM is just lame nationalistic bull#?

Now whos being a little girl?

EDIT:

AND THE BASTARD KEEPS EDITING WHILE IM TYPING!

For gods sake, get an arguement and stick with it!

.And will die for my women and children.

Congrats. Do you know what?

You can die for your women and children, that does nothing.

I will WIN for my women and children, much more useful

Yea I get mad at the opening post saying were doomed. Yea I got a little emotional, that is because I am a leader and not a follower.

HA! A little emotional?! youve been bawling your eyes out this entire thread at me.

Being part of the hive mind surveliance state over in England where everyones already under mind conntrol from a totalitarian dictatorship, Im not surprise you do not know whats going on.

Um...so wait, you liev in a country where your cops shoot, spray pepper spray and beat your people into submission...

England puts cameras around the place, and suddenly THEY are the bad ones?!

Im out of this childs argument, totally off topic, and pointless"Im his friend, and your my foe" what a baby game.

No! dont go! its so fun beating your ass down, Captain America

Ill look out for posting anything near "racist type" comments in the future, Mods spank me at will .

better just not post at all, just to be sure.

We dont need your special brand of verbal vomit.

I don't usually get involved in these 'discussions' but I'm sitting here practically doubled over with laughter whilst reading DWT's posts! Seriously....you have to be kidding right? Tell me you are taking the Micky?

Im wounded! I spent alot of time honing my wit and the moron gets all the laughs!

Goddamn it!


[edit on 2-10-2007 by Octavius Maximus]


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[edit on 10/3/2007 by benevolent tyrant]

reply to post by dntwastetime


So the English are the ones under mind control? Yet it's your students who are being tazered by thugs in uniform and not one of them does anything to protect their fellow man.... But if that happened in my college, there'd be rioting for days....

Have you ever left America?

Ive been to America, trust me. Just dont bother. Its EXACTLY how we know it is.

What a pointless thread. Not even a link to back up your claims. Just more paranoia.

And it's all completely off topic...

Let's step back a bit. China invading through Mexico and Cuba? Wasn't it the Russians in "Red Dawn"? Wolverines! Oh wait, that was just Hollywood propaganda to garner support for the Mujadine fighters in Afghanistan. What are those guys called now? Tal...something or Al'q... somesuch? Oh forget about it. It was just a movie, and now some people here think it can happen in real life? There's a new game out where Russians invade disguised as cargo ships in the Northwest or Seattle area, should we flip that around and expect the Chinese through that door too?

Truly the Chinese are a world player now, and we have to accept that. As an American I have been saying this for over a decade now. It's pretty freaking obvious if you ask me.

I was in Taiwan about half a year ago and asked some people there about China. The big news while I was there was that (surprise surprise) China had been churning out amphibious assault vehicles right and left. So this is actually pretty old news and a pretty common event for China.

Standing in the middle of Shang Kai Shek (I hope I am spelling that at least close to correctly) memorial, one guy leaned over to me and asked me to guess how many missiles were pointed straight at me at that exact time and place and THAT is pretty freaky to think about. You gotta hand it to the Taiwanese living under the gun like that.

Anyway back to the "word on the street". The Taiwanese people I talked to about China becoming aggressive had this to say about it: "Are you nuts!?! And throw away their chance at hosting the Olympics!?!" So basically we are all safe until 2009 was their understanding of the situation. That and the general understanding of the order of battle would be massive rocket strikes to take out infrastructure followed closely by massive amphibious assaults. The Taiwanese people have to expect to hold out for 7 days until the US fleet can get into position.

So were all safe until 2009, unless we do something stupid to make it happen. Something that would outweigh the financial and political benefits that the Olympics could have on a Chinese economy. Something like further destabilizing the mid east, or some kind of internal strife in the mainland, or even the US (that is us, snicker puny) finally doing the right thing and taking our WoT into Pakistan...

Originally posted by dntwastetime


What kind of a ignorant moron drawing it that? Youa re a little kid. Im done arguing fool. Say what you will Crocodile Dundee,My time is too important for arguing with little girls.

And you dont know anything about Americans, patriots, or nationals.

[edit on 2-10-2007 by dntwastetime]

I taught the patriots were nfl and nationals mlb?

But really,

here in the us, even in liberal california, a great number of the population is armed and and not just with pea shooters either, I am sure we wont make it easy if they try to invade

[edit on 2-10-2007 by dnnx]

Why would the Chinese initiate a war with the U.S.? What on earth would they hope to gain? Our 9 trillion dollar debt? Or maybe they want our jobs? Oh wait, they already HAVE them through outsourcing. Oh, I know, wait, they want to kidnap our president so he can wisely rule China, as he is in America?

The Chinese are an extremely old civilization. They have learned that war can be waged through many other avenues, such as financial, political, etc. They are known to be inscrutable and circumspect for good reason, they don't usually care for direct confrontation. It isn't in their nature at this point in history to initiate a war for no reason, unlike America and its stated foreign policy and actions.

Read the book, "The Art of War" by IIRC, Lao Tsu. It's a very ancient book about how to fight an enemy with strategy, cool analysis and forethought. That pretty much sums up the Chinese mindset regarding conflict. It is anything but directly confrontational. They are intelligent, careful people as a whole and I think their govt. is mostly interested in building up China's strength right now.

Maybe China knows something that we don't, i.e. maybe they're preparing to defend themselves from a U.S. attack, anyone think of that? Not that I think that's likely, but it's at least more realistic than China attacking us for no reason.

Don't Waste Time, quit wasting MY time. Your claims are ludicrous. What are you a Communist-hating, paranoid CIA whacko agent? You're living back in the 1950's, you know when McCarthy blackballed so-called "Communists" who later turned out to be totally innocent?
If America is so great, than how come we don't have enough money or soldiers to send to China to defend ourselves? Hell, we don't have enough soldiers or money to go into Iran.

DWT, pay particular attention to this bit of info now:
THis is, in fact, the first time since the Vietnam War that we don't have any troops at the ready, prepared to send soldiers anywhere in the world within 24 hours in order to defend ourselves. We're stretched way too thin, so that now we don't even have the ability to defend ourselves should we be attacked. I got that from an Army Intelligence friend just 3 days ago. America is fast falling apart and going down the tubes. We all have to deal with it here in the U.S. and face the facts.

Americans can no longer afford our arrogance and naivety, but it looks like some are still hanging onto it, despite reality.

China doesn't have the resources or flexibility to attack america, their millitary may be absolutely massive but if the US threw all it's weight while being attacked on the home front any opposing aggressor would be splattered. Not to mention the fact that their attacking a country of people who believe in their freedom and seeing as the majority of american households have firearms china would face some form of geurilla warfare aswell.

I highly doubt there has ever been or will ever (atleast in the forseeable future) be a chinese military presence anywhere near America.

Originally posted by dntwastetime
. Yea, I am one of those patriotic whackos that go crazy over chinese troops on the border, and invasion signals.And will die for our women, and childrens safety. Yea I get mad at the opening post saying were doomed. Yea I got a little emotional, that is because I am a leader and not a follower.

America's time has just begun.
[edit on 2-10-2007 by dntwastetime]

Ok, lets re-rail this thread and address the main point here.

China is not going to attack America. China are not getting ready for a war. China are merely doing what they have always done, which is spend billions on their military. The thing is, with modern communication and the internet, the information is now accessible more freely. The result of this, is that people take the slightest thing out of context, add it to some rancid NWO/End of Days/WWIII scenario and *boom* places like ATS are full of wannabe deluded freedom fighters who don't actually know what or who they would be fighting. Coupled with a fuelled fantasy which spirals from people posting semi-cold war propaganda rubbish or just plain ignorant threads like this.

The posts which dntwastetime, clearly shows the level of ignorance of a person. It is NOT SPECIFIC TO AMERICANS - PLEASE DON'T TAR A COUNTRY with the same brush as an individual - they are not one & the same. We get opinions here, not a demographic representation of a nation.

You know, ATS is a fantastic place for people to discuss all these things, but the unfortunate reality is that it attracts the lonely, paranoid, mentally unhinged and the just plain ignorant. Either way, ATS quite kindly gives us access to this site for free and all the information it holds. A small thing they ask in return is to show fellow posters a little common respect, no matter how passionately we disagree.

For the record, I'm not a sceptic on certain topics discussed here. And I do not place myself over & above other peoples opinions. Afterall, I'm merely offering mine.

yah I have to agree. China attacking the US is pointless, really.
*shrugs*
But I will say this - America's war machine hasn't even been started yet. Remember people, that we are not technicially at war. It's an operation in iraq. (And the wooo "War on Terror" .... which enemy is that again?! LOL)
The whole force for the operation in iraq / afghanny are volunteers enlisted in the armed forces and civilian contractors! I'd HARDLY call that America's war machine.

For those of you who think that America is on her last legs - you need to re-evaluate yourself. America's economy is apparently (for now) on the rebound (despite the housing market, and the Iraqi sink-hole fund).

America's war machine hasn't been illustrated since WWII. Go read some AMAZING American history and learn why America, and her people, should not be underestimated and simply brushed aside.

Thanks, and have a nice day.

Originally posted by forestlady

Read the book, "The Art of War" by IIRC, Lao Tsu.

Sun. Sun Tzu. Tzu being an honorific. Lao Tzu was a Taoist.

China derives most of its income from our consumption of its goods. Kill us face an economic collapse. Not to mention retaliation.

I think you can sleep secure in the knowledge China has no intention of attacking us.

Originally posted by forestlady
THis is, in fact, the first time since the Vietnam War that we don't have any troops at the ready, prepared to send soldiers anywhere in the world within 24 hours in order to defend ourselves. We're stretched way too thin, so that now we don't even have the ability to defend ourselves should we be attacked. I got that from an Army Intelligence friend just 3 days ago. America is fast falling apart and going down the tubes. We all have to deal with it here in the U.S. and face the facts.

You're one quotable forest, lady.

The scary part about this (if it's true) is that is the first requirement for a dictatorial take over or the start of fascism, but that is probably for another thread.

The part about China attacking the US is pretty weak, why would they. How would they. Why and How indeed.

Why- Probably in response to any aggressive move America might take. They very well could back Iran or Venezuela... In 2000 one of Bush's campaign points was that the US shouldn't be the worlds police (irony), maybe China might decide it's their turn. This is how WORLD Wars start. Hate to say it (I truly love my country), but our government is turning us into the evil empire we used to be the white knights fighting.

How- Don't the Chinese own a huge chunk of our T-Bills now-a-days? I don't think it would be hard for them to cripple our economy that way. OR, cyber terrorism... OR, that huge army and navy they have built...


[edit on 10/2/2007 by whargoul]

Originally posted by exnavy_76
All of the facts are pointing to the People's Republic of China (Communist China) are preparing for a major armed conflict that will require the transportation of their military. Our surveillance satelites have observed the Chinese military are building and launching a large number of personnel troop transport ships and landing ships at an alarming rate. The actual number is uncertain, but it is believed they are building and launching approximately 8 of these ships a month, and they have been doing so for several years.

Along with those ships, they are also building and launching a large number of combat ships. These include "heavy" cruisers almost as large as our old battleships, light cruisers with 8" guns as their main battery, escort ships such as destroyers and guided missle frigates. Along with these ships they are building and launching the support or auxillary ships such as tankers, supply ships, and refrigeration ships.

It should be noted they have purchsed at least 6 super air craft carriers from the Russians and they have been observed training their pilots how to take off and land on these carriers.

Link this knowledge with the fact the Chinese are now capable of knocking out satiltes from orbit shows they are preparing for war very quickly. The only questions remain unanswered are who the Chinese are planning to go to war with whom and when.

So you're saying they have approximately 400 troop transport ships? The US has fewer than 20.

You're either an idiot or do not know how to cross-reference facts.

The Russians don't have "Super Carriers" only the US has Super Carriers. Russia does not even have aircraft Carriers the Kiev being more of a helecopter carrier than an aircraft carrier. The next nation with large Carriers comparable to the US is France and it has only 2.

Britain's aircraft carreirs are more like support carriers from WW2.

The US has 2.5 million men in the military, and 140,000 are in Iraq; the US is not stretched thin when it comes to mobilization merely stretched thin when it comes to mobilized forces.

This is not in defense of anyone, nor an attack against anyone. You guys can continue your fight as you wish. I am only adding my cents to the "conversation"

I guess I am one of those psychotic Americans you never want to take sides with. I wear a suit to work everyday, am married, live in the burbs have my house with its white picket fence and 2 kids.

Invade my country and I give up everything for the defense of it and the fredom of my family. Attack my family in any way, all gloves are off and I do what ever it takes to completely destroy you and any force that works with you. This does not have to be an invader, it could just be an intruder into my home.

Sorry, its not nationalistic or patriotic to want to defend the freedoms you were born with (here in USA we are born with such freedoms), its normal to act that way. Stop calling everyone who is willing to give their life for their country psychotic. I might not stand up and dare other countries to invade ours, but if they take that chance, then yes...I hope they do cease to exist in a very very short period of time.

Also: No 200 million person force throwing sticks and stones can win a battle against a well oiled fighting machine, despite what some people hope for.

Originally posted by True_Confederate
The US has 2.5 million men in the military, and 140,000 are in Iraq; the US is not stretched thin when it comes to mobilization merely stretched thin when it comes to mobilized forces.

Oh, I guess Army Intelligence must be wrong then? The only ones in IRaq are the Army and Marines, along with Blackwater, AFAIK. I guess we hired Blackwater just because we prefer to pay some soldiers $15,000 a week then?
Look up the facts before you start spouting off again. After your thread endorsing slavery, along with your rude, obnoxious comments, your credibility here is zero, bub.
Why don't you do some research and Google information? Oh, that's right, you don't think Google is a credible source of information, as you said before. Guess the Army's Intelligence isn't credible to you, either? Do you not think the news of any kind is a credible source either? It's been all over the news how thin we are stretched.
You're a real piece of work. Too bad you give true confederates a bad name.