Federal Officials: At Least 32 Dead After Virginia Tech University Shooting

If you do not want to discuss it in this thread - then do not make rediculous statements about how the UK is safer.

This thread is not about the UK.

delete this post please!
Appologies for use of bad language.

[edit on 16/4/07 by eagle32]

The question is was the President out of line by thinking the dorm incident was isolated?

Also does it seem right that they did not close campus when they knew a muderer was on the loose. Personally if i thought it was isolated i would think the murder would flee not go crazy? I can see why the president of the university did this.

Originally posted by idunno1
Can this possibly be the shooter?



Seen this on another forum.

Wow.... Well, one thing we know is that the kid in those pictures was accepted to Virginia Tech and he liked guns... Whether or not if that's the guy that did the shooting I don't know. Here is one of his posts on his livejournal account:

To love at all is to be vulnerable. Love anything and your heart will certainly be wrung and possibly broken. If you want to be sure to keep it in tact, you must give your heart to no one. Lock it up, safe in the coffin of your selfishness. But in that casket, safe, dark, motionless, airless it will change. It will not be broken, but it will become unbreakable, impenetrable, irredeemable.

[edit on 17-4-2007 by asala]

Originally posted by idunno1
Can this possibly be the shooter?

Very intriguing, this gun toting fellow, who was recently scorned by his girlfriend, while attending VaTech.

It is a possibility, a good lead for the first shooting if this is a two shooter incident.

[edit on 2007/4/16 by JacKatMtn]

Originally posted by Quicksilver
The question is was the President out of line by thinking the dorm incident was isolated?

Also does it seem right that they did not close campus when they knew a muderer was on the loose. Personally if i thought it was isolated i would think the murder would flee not go crazy? I can see why the president of the university did this.

i thought any murder on campus would result in a the campus being closed.

34 dead now im hearing

Originally posted by infinite
I would be HIGHLY surprised if America now doesn't adopt tougher gun laws.

In the United Kingdom, in 2005/2006 50 people were killed by gun violence. It fell from a third, 78 to 50.

Yes wouldn't that be convenient. Disarm America's last defense against tyranny. Who defends you from the government when you can't get arms? Moreover do you even think that the assault weapons the perp. carried were legal? Quite the contrary, but that doesn't stop the violence does it. Is there now no gun crimes in the streets of London thanks to these laws? I believe New York pretty much bans all firearms, in contradiction to the 2nd amendment. Do you suppose that there is no gun crime in New York?

You are looking at the wrong source for your problems. They used to have machine guns in U.S. schools and there were firearm clubs in many high schools during the 50s and 60s. Where were the mass shootings then? They were non existent. These things started when they threw God out of school. Moral teaching is still more important than reading writing and arithmetic, but apparently that's just passe in modern society.


On the other hand if every student were trained in the use of weapons and were carrying their firearms, guess how far the creep would have gotten?

Something doesn't add up. Either there were more individuals involved in this, or this guy had some firepower that was a lot more powerful than what they are stipulating.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Something doesn't add up. Either there were more individuals involved in this, or this guy had some firepower that was a lot more powerful than what they are stipulating.

well...

maybe the guy had military training.

Originally posted by SevenThunders
On the other hand if every student were trained in the use of weapons and were carrying their firearms, guess how far the creep would have gotten?

This was my first thought on the matter. Well spoken

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Something doesn't add up. Either there were more individuals involved in this, or this guy had some firepower that was a lot more powerful than what they are stipulating.

what doesnt add up???

What i dont understand is what was the gunman doing in the 2 1/2 hour time span from which the first shot was hear at the first location and the shots rand out at the second. I realize that it would take time to cross campus but not over 2 hours was he hiding? if so where. Was he blending in?

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Something doesn't add up.

Not really if the reports from the students holds true, at the second incident, at Norris Hall, this guy chained the exit doors so noone could leave then went classroom to classroom shooting students at will.

He didn't need overwhelming firepower, he was the only one armed, two pistols and plenty of ammo.

A tragedy but not one where a submachinegun was necessary.

Originally posted by ImpliedChaos

what doesnt add up???

One guy supposedly killed 34 individuals spread all across the campus. It doesn't add up.

Originally posted by infinite

i thought any murder on campus would result in a the campus being closed.

34 dead now im hearing

I dont know its a shame but let me tell you about my campus and what has happened in the past 2 years. We had a serial killer around campus that was eventually caught in the library. We have the occaisional violent crime here that involves someoen being held up or being shot in the leg or something. We also has had someone fall out of a window here at school that was first thought to maybe be murder or a bad accident. I know i havnet seen anything like what happend today but in the face of all this stuff we have no canceled class. Luckily we have not had anythign terrible happen.

Looking back they should have closed campus no argument. But in if you thought th esituation was contained and the murder was fleeing then without knowing the end result I would not cancel classes. Especially when you already had students comming.

Im curious as to why all of these students are already giving intervews on TV and why is it that the cameras havent showed anyone crying like in the other school shooting. Is it b/c noone knows who the victims are , if it was someone they knew?

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth

Originally posted by ImpliedChaos

what doesnt add up???

One guy supposedly killed 34 individuals spread all across the campus. It doesn't add up.

I mean it was in two seperate locations. But i know on my camus thigs look far away on a map but if you run through buildings and use shortcuts then it doesnt take long

I dont think its hit them yet.

FOXNews was chatting to guy earlier and he admitted that it hasn't sunk in yet. Most are probably suffering from extreme shock after 34 of their friends were killed.

Originally posted by ImpliedChaos
Im curious as to why all of these students are already giving intervews on TV and why is it that the cameras havent showed anyone crying like in the other school shooting. Is it b/c noone knows who the victims are , if it was someone they knew?

Well, on large campuses, generally most people don't know one another. Unless you have classes or are a roommate with someone, you probably don't know them. Other than maybe passing by them to and fro between classes.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Well, on large campuses, generally most people don't know one another. Unless you have classes or are a roommate with someone, you probably don't know them. Other than maybe passing by them to and fro between classes.

some of the guys on FOXNews were from the other end of the campus. i think that those given interviews maybe from a different area of the campus because i am sure those who were in the area are probably in deep shock.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth


Well, on large campuses, generally most people don't know one another. Unless you have classes or are a roommate with someone, you probably don't know them. Other than maybe passing by them to and fro between classes. Of course, I am not very sociable, so I may not be the best one to explain it.