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Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
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To imagine a 2d object is to see some thing with only height and width. If this thing had no depth it would cease Existing. If this thing had only depth and height, with no length, it would cease existing... etc.
The being is 3d and "dimensions" with values of 0
Originally posted by Pumcy
we can only percieve what we exist in, which is a 3D existance. we would have to be able to percieve everything that exists, has ever existed, and will ever exist, together to be able to truly grasp the concept of no time.
Time exists in our reality because it is needed to percieve and understand such a reality.
You have to really think outside the box to grasp the idea of Time not existing.
Originally posted by blue bird
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
But LastOut ,entire Universe is 2D Energy Fields...“two dimensional lattice structures by 1D Quanta Matter“.
And than you have a photon - 3D basic particle. It moves through energy fildes. “All 3D matter in nature is in the form of photons. “
The being is 3d and "dimensions" with values of 0
If it was 0 - object would NOT exist.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
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Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternalThe being is 3d and "dimensions" with values of 0 do infact cease Existing in a 3d Existence; Existence is 3d, can be viewed from infinite points of reference, thus creating infinite relativity.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
It's time to use logic wisely and question every thing. Just because someone once theorized that 1d and 2d exists, doesn't make it so. We can try to imagine it, but it's the same as imagining nothing, because in essence you'd have to, being that one or more of its values is zero(nothing). When we imagine a 3d object, we imagine all 3 measurements. To imagine a 2d object is to see some thing with only height and width. If this thing had no depth it would cease Existing. If this thing had only depth and height, with no length, it would cease existing... etc.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
To imagine something with a value of nothing is a contradiction and a paradox. Paradoxes don't Exist, thus the thing with a value of nothing does not Exist, and that is in all its beauty the actual definition of nothing/zero
Originally posted by Pumcy
Exactly what you said. Cease to exist in a 3D Existance. 3D is key here. We live in a physical 3D world, but you have yet to convince me that once i pass from this 3D life, that there isnt new dimensions for me to explore.
For someone so enlightened, i find it puzzling that you can't grasp the idea that there are things in this universe that our human minds can't possibly understand completly.
It is impossible to visualize a 2D object. But i believe that there are many things that our mind is conditioned to understand and not understand while living in the physical reality that we call life.
I have seen no argument thus far that has prompted me to disbelieve my theory.
Even if you are right that 1D and 2D objects cannot exist anywhere in the universe, that argument does not discount the idea of more dimensions.
We know that we have 3 dimensions that we live in, so by default the 1st and second must exist. even if they dont exist without all 3 together, they still exist none the less.
Given that fact, it is entirely still possible to have more than 3 dimensions and not be able to understand or percieve them.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
The problem here is this; you aren't going to pass from this 3d life in to some super/hyperdimensional heaven or what have you
Originally posted by Pumcy
I believe that when we die, as you mention, our energie is of course never...
This idea does not discount NOTHING, it just expands the possibilities of what nothing is NOT
Originally posted by 2manyquestions
I just had an idea. I'm not even going to attempt to try and explain what time is or if it exists, but I did have a thought as I read through all the posts.
One last thing...... One night I dreamed my whole day before it happened. I know there are others who have too. Sounds crazy, but what's that all about? What's with Deja vu? A glitch in the brain, or remembering the future? I don't know.
Originally posted by knows_but_doesntWhen I was young and just out of high school some friends invited me out on a journey, a kind of psychedelic journey let's just say. I have always been the one to wander off and ponder life, star gaze, etc. So, as I'm sitting down alone, staring at the sky, I hear one of the guys yell to everyone around that it's "time" to go. So, I wondered to myself, "What is time?" At this moment, this voice comes out of the sky and tells me "There is no time, there is no yesterday, there is no tomorrow, there is only now"
Take it for what it's worth. Sounds crazy eh? I agree. But if you knew me then, you would know that I would have NEVER came up with a statement like that.
Can I ask has anyone else experienced something like this?
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
2D does not Exist. You even say, if it was 0 - object would NOT Exist. We live in a "3d" Existence, and that is all there is to it. Once you realize that, every thing must have at least "3 dimensions" to Exist. 2D doesn't Exist because one of its measurables would become 0... a value of 0 means non-existence. Energy is 3d, matter is 3d.
Can't have height with out width and depth, object ceases Existing. Object requires 3 dimensions to Exist.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
That's because Nothing is and is not real, so I half way agree with you.
Thank you, I value my awareness of Nothing, maybe when you come to it you'll realize an Existence of no time as well.
"Fundamental nature" is an expectation derived of narcissistic Humans, non-fundamental nature is a nature of no expectations,
this is how the Existence functions outside of Human's current silly expectations.
I don't wish to argue, but you still haven't shown me where it is that I messed up.
I'd like to be pointed in that direction, please, so that I may help humanity and the consciousness of, to move forward in their understanding of themselves, that which is the Existence.
I all so know something about some thing. Throwing stones doesn't feel good when they bounce front off and come back on you.
Again, I don't wish to argue. I'm here to talk about time, you are yet to show me where my awareness of Nothing is false.
This is more like a game of lawless political literacy, not that I wouldn't enjoy such a puzzle under the correct circumstances.
"They're" is the word we're looking for here.
Perhaps it was induced? Thus making me over attack, so as to obtain the ability to observe it. Or maybe I'm just over attacking because its old and gets us no where, but I'm certainly not trying to attack, you can be sure of that.
Correct, there is Nothing to work with, I'm trying to open the consciousness to that.
The nature of your post comes from a deep anger and/or personal dilemnas. Learn how to control it and we can have a civil conversation about time.
I'm glad I don't fit the classical sense (shwew, survived that era), perhaps I fit the renaissance or industrial sense of failing?
Maybe I unevenly failed as opposed to "not even failing"? This is a new era, it's called Existential consciousness.
Here there is and is not failing and there is and is not success in every thing that we do.
That is banal. Just know that it is Nothing that is beyond you, and how could that be? I still wish you a delightfull evening and many wonderfull days ahead.
Non-sense is admired, it breaks the rules of so called "common sense" and some where in between we find the truth of the un-whole matter