Have I Disturbed Some One? (Revisited)

try snapping some pics of the hallway Val or wherever you heard the sound from, maybe you'll catch some orbs...or more..

You know, I never really believed any of this, but I have been reading this thread for the last week or so (I just found it) and you guys have me jogging to light switches now. I feel like a little kid after watching The Exorcist for the first time.

Val, are you a woman of faith?

Yes, Dafunk, I am. I'm not scared of whatever gets active around here ever once in a while. I'm still just curious as to whether it needs something. Like a pike-pass to the other side, or for me to vacuum more often...whatever.

Maybe it just wants you to save some meatloaf next time???

We as humans can rationalize with stuff like this. I feel terrible for the dog. Poor guy must be confused as hell.

I asked the question earlier because I am curious what you think it is. Is it a ghost trapped on earth waiting for the afterlife? Is it a demonic spirit sent by the Devil? Maybe just Rodney Dangerfield, still gettin no respect?

Whats your take?

Well, we've had possibly the longest run of "not much" since I moved in this house. I had about decided the ghost was very happy with the fact we were addressing structural apostacies that had happened in the past and were fixing the house to where it might stand a few more decades.

...until today.

In the time since I last posted we have only had a couple of minor incidences where we heard movement upstairs (like my daughter's computer chair rolling across the wood floor of her room upstairs when she wasn't even here, or another time when we heard the bathroom door upstairs close and nobody but us were here). Short of those two incidences there has been nothing to report.

So...we'll have to rewind to the last week of January to get this story told. That's when Springer had his reconstructive surgery on his lower back. When he went in for his surgery they, of course, gave me all his belongings. All his clothing we placed in a hospital bag and then his wallet, his watch and his wedding ring I placed in my purse. I carry a very small purse, and Springer's wallet is big and heavy and it loaded it up pretty good, but the ring and watch fit nicely into a side pocket and caused no problems.

So that night (the day of his surgery) after I saw that he was fully drugged, going to live and deep in the land of Morpheus, I came home to take care of my daughter, get some sleep and then headed back early the next morning. When I got home, I took his wallet out of my purse and put it in the drawer that we keep some of our documents in, so I wouldn't have to carry that added weight, and also so nobody would steal it, since it was big enough that I couldn't really hide it in my little purse.

When Springer finally got out of the hospital and recovered enough to be able to drive, he asked for his wallet. His ring and watch were in the side pocket of my purse and I gave them to him, but when I went to get his wallet for him, it wasn't in the drawer. That was six months ago. I know I placed it in that drawer, because I remember pulling some other documents out of the drawer, placing it under them, and then covering it back up with those documents (which included the 1904 picture of the house). I tore this house up trying to find that wallet. And then Springer tore the house up looking for the wallet. I even went so far as to call the hospital and ask them if his wallet had been found in his hospital room by a nurse and I called the restaurant I ate lunch at that day to make sure I hadn't pulled it out while I was fishing for my check book (just in case I was completely bonkers and had dreamed I put it in the drawer). No on both counts - no wallet for Springer anywhere. And ever since then, every time I've had a need to get something from that drawer, I've looked for the wallet again...because I knew damned well I put that wallet in there.

So today Springer opens a totally different drawer in which we keep dish rags and dish towels and he moves a stack of rags out of the way to get to a dish towel, and the top fold of one of my table cloths flips back and there is his wallet! So his wallet is tucked into the folds of the top table cloth in a stack of two table cloths tucked in the back of a totally different drawer....................

but there's a major problem here.....

In May of this year we had a big deal happen at my work and we were going to do some demonstrations for some important visitors. We set up a long table (one of those folding tables) and rented some skirts from the local civic center to dress it up. But it still didn't look good, so I brought both of my table cloths to work to cover this table and when the function was over, I washed both of them, folded them, and put them back in the rear of this drawer.

The wallet had already been missing for almost 4 months at that point!

There aint no explainin' this one! Especially when you take into account all of the money was still in the wallet, and nothing appears to have been disturbed.

*RUN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

[edit on 8-2-2006 by Valhall]

I assure you the above is [i/]100% TRUE and correct.

What blows my mind is the day Val needed the table cloths for her work thing she called me to make sure they were in the drawer with the dish towels, I got up, opened the drawer, pulled BOTH of the table cloths OUT OF THE DRAWER to make sure they were the ones she wanted and put them on th kitchen table so she wouldn't miss them the next morning.

Springer...

Hi Val,
Nice to get an update. Happy to hear Springer is on his feet
I have had things disappear and turn up in weird places. I just accept it as a cause of nature, what else can I do?
I had hoped your house was no longer haunted, I wouldn't put up with it, I'd get rid of it promptly.
WIS

Springer actually had to go and get a new ID because we never could find the wallet! This is very similar to the two separate incidences of missing items that happened before (when Springer was still living in big D), and then appeared again days to weeks later.

Poltergeisty stuff I'd say!

Have you tried doing something like Sylvia Browne says to do when there's a haunting in your house? She says to tell the spirit that they are dead and that they need to go to God now. So, maybe when you sort of "feel" that it may be close to you, you could say this, or even it you don't feel it around you, you could still go through the house saying those things.

You might, also, if it would make you feel better, try putting a few grains of salt in each corner of your home...probably downstairs and upstairs would be best. I know the salt is superstitiousy, but, hey...

It might not even be a haunting...may be just a friend or relative who has passed on just saying "Hi". But, I really don't think someone who cares about you would hide the wallet.....

I really don't believe that spirits can physically hurt you, just unnerve the poop out of you! I once lived in a house across the street from where I grew up. Our neighbor, whom I'd known all my life, had lived there until she died in a local hospital. When I first moved in, I thought I saw her (my neighbor) out of the corner of my eye (but am still not sure), and one night I thought I saw these strange, glowing blue "drawings" hanging in the air above my bed; however, I saw them without my glasses on and wasn't sure if it was some sort of retinal thing, imagination or what. Things calmed down after that and were okay. One strange thing did happen, though, while I was living there...I had some eggs on boiling and walked out of the house and went to the store, completely forgetting about the eggs. Shortly thereafter, for some reason, my father felt a compulsion to go over to my house (across the street) and check on things (he was doing some work on the back porch area). He caught the eggs just before they probably would've caught fire.

Good luck on all of this!

FibroKat

Originally posted by Valhall
DE,

This goes along with IAP's theory that the grocer may have done something to his wife (possible caused her death either directly or indirectly). I need to investigate this more.

Makes me wonder if there were any strange disappearances of people in town around that time.

I live in Ok too, but we have brown dirt, so I assume that you live west of me.
I lived in the western part of the state years ago and I think every town there had some type of local lore about things happening.

People who would pooh pooh the stories would sometimes set out to go 'hunting' to prove there was nothing to the story. I've talked to more than one who came back a believer.
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Hi Valhall.
I'm way back on page 11 so forgive me if this has been asked.

You found nothing of note in the attic at this point, but in an earlier post you said one of the sounds could have been a floor board in the attic.

Have you checked for any loose boards, as in the kind someone could have pried up, hidden something under, and then nailed back down?
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Yes I've checked the attic pretty good, but not exhaustively. Yes, there are some loose boards up there. Eventually we will finish out the attic and make it part of the house, so at that time I will be able to investigate everything. Mainly (with it being 105+ here) I just don't go up there if I don't have to.

Originally posted by Intelearthling

Could it be a cache of cash buried in the basement?

The more I read in this thread, the more I feel that whatever is/maybe buried is nothing like a cache of cash.

Val, thanks for posting the pics as the other site, as you know, no longer works.

I have to say, the pic of the house circa 1906 didn't bother me as much as the pic of your son's girlfriend. That pic made my heart jump. No insult to her intended.

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What I find odd is that it was suggested to speak with whatever is up there. The one who spoke to it also had cold wind and such pass by as comfirmation that it overheard it all. So we know that something is there.

Next up is that there have been people invited to with medium capacity, so they claim, yet could not tell any significant information. If you had a proper medium come by you'd expect them to at least be able to say what genre and time frame that "spirit" or whatever had died in or some other information that was usable.

It would surely speed up the discovery of everything.

As for ghosts and such not being able to cause physical harm. Well in the past I shared this belief as well. Also because with all the encounters I had there was none that caused me harm and the harm that was done was caused by the individual hysteria/backing up.

However...I did a magical experiment and ever since I have an acid/gas smell near me once in a while. Nobody smells it except me and my father. My parents both smell it at times during the night and then ask me the next morning if i've been burning insence or anything else, which I didn't. Since then I've also been experiencing a burning sensation on my lower right leg followed by an enormous itch. This itch is similar to a being trying to attach itself to you in a nasty manner which I've already experienced in the past.

At first I thought nothing of it and went to the doc, but he couldn't find anything. The scratches on that spot is unexplainable as well, in the sense that I did not do it nor did I walk next to something sharp. Later I found out that the being from the magical experiment is lingering around still and I am still figuring out how to get rid of it.

Now a lot of occultist would say that performing rituals means outwardly manifesting your own subconcious aspects so perhaps, gotta love the dark aspects of your own... I always like a confrontational challenge It makes you grow as a human being because it allows to understand yourself even better then before.

But I don't see the "spirits" in Vall's house do something to that extreme. Unless it is the ghost of that butcher guy heheh. And even then he would've done it already by now and seeing it didn't.

Originally posted by Valhall
They built a small house south of this house for her to live in and she lived in there alone until she died as a teenager. The only person who would go in that house was the mother, to take care of her. That small house is still there (but the property has since been parceled off).

How strange. I thought I had read that it had been torn down.
Anyway, what's being done with that house now? Does anyone live in it? Have you heard if there was any 'activity' centered around it, especially lately?
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Originally posted by ShadowEyes

How strange. I thought I had read that it had been torn down.
Anyway, what's being done with that house now? Does anyone live in it? Have you heard if there was any 'activity' centered around it, especially lately?
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The barn that was behind this house (and in front of the little house across the alley) it was torn down, but the little house that we were told the daughter lived in is still there. Some one does live in it, and I don't know if they have any activity.

i think you should get a priest in the nearest church and ask him to help then gather everyone in the town and pray very hard

Yes praying solves all the problems

If I remember correctly they already tried that once and also some native indian had a go at it or some other excorcist type like guy.

Originally posted by Ajax
Nice room, I'm impressed! I noticed something weird about picture 4 though. In the middle-right of the right hand window there appears to be some weird face looking in from outside. It isn't a reflection from the ceiling fan because that appears at the very top of the picture. It could just be some lamp-post outside or something, but I can't find it in any of your other pictures. Maybe it's just my mind trying to look for something odd. I zoomed in on the section where the weird looking face is. Just kinda weird is all. Cool room though!!

[edit on 5-10-2005 by Ajax]

O.K. I wasn't going to say anything because you'd likely think me daft, but since someone else has picked it up...
I've seen several of the pics that look like there are reptilian type beings in them. Some are pretty clear and some are not. If fact, look at the ecto pic again, for one, in the 'mist' and also on the plywood over the window area.
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We just had a tremendous "boom" occur here. I have no idea if this is isolated to our house or if it was some bizarro event external. I'm just recording this here for the purpose of recording. The EMF meter is not picking up anything in the house. The main reason I want to get this in the thread is that this is very close to the same time of year we had something like this (that one was far more weird than this one) happen about 2 years ago, if I'm remembering right.

If this was external to the house, then it was a sonic boom.