This war will be eternal

a reply to: RussianTroll

Put it this way RT.

Where would you be without woman, of the sinful sorts, or otherwise?

Because you came from the same place as the rest of us.

Straight out from between your mammy's legs.

a reply to: FlyersFan
Translated from Greek, in which all the Gospels are written (it would be shameful for a Catholic not to know this), the word "rabbi" simply means "my teacher"))))

originally posted by: RussianTroll
Jesus preached the Word of God in those premises where representatives of the owners of these premises were present. And in Jewish, and in Greek, and in pagan. Everywhere where he was listened to, and not just heard. It is strange for you, as a self-declared Catholic, not to know these facts))))

Nope.

Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi, of the line of King David, Who taught in the synagogues because he was a respected Jewish Rabbi. They didn't let non-Jews do that. He spoke in the language of the Jews, ate Jewish food, observed the Jewish holidays, prayed the Jewish prayers, and bled JEWISH BLOOD on the holy cross.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Yes the word Rabbi means teacher, but there is more to it than that. You didn't get called Rabbi unless you were Jewish, knew the scriptures, and were accepted as a teacher of them. Jesus would have worn the Rabbi tassels on his robes. He would have eaten the Jewish foods. He would have prayed the Jewish prayers. He was a Jewish Rabbi of the line of King David.

a reply to: FlyersFan

I come to the conclusion that you, who proclaim yourself a Catholic, simply have not read the New Testament.((((

Three pages later.
Still no acknowledgement of these facts.

JESUS HAD TO BE JEWISH
TO FULFILL THE MESSIANIC PROPHECIES

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them” (Matthew 5:17).

"For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah" (Hebrews 7:14).

Revelation 5:5, one of the twenty-four elders calls Jesus "the Lion of the tribe of Judah." Long before His birth, it was prophesied that Shiloh—the Messiah, the Prince of Peace—would come from the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10).

Messianic prophecies - Messiah Would Be a Descendant of David

God Declared - “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will raise up for David a righteous Branch, and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell securely. And this is the name by which he will be called: ‘The Lord is our righteousness’” (Jeremiah 23:5–6).

Reference: 2 Samuel 7:12–16; Isaiah 11:1; Jeremiah 23:5–6;
Fulfillment: Matthew 1:1; Luke 1:32–33; Acts 15:15–16; Hebrews 1:5

The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. (Matthew 1:1) He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end. (Luke 1:32–33)

When he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to cry out and say, “Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!” (Mark 10:47)

With this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written, “After this I will return, and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen; I will rebuild its ruins, and I will restore it.” (Acts 15:15–16)


OLD TESTAMENT Messianic Prophecies that Jesus Had to Fulfill - all say he had to be JEWISH

See numbers 30-60 THIRTY Prophecies that Jesus was to be Jewish in order to be Messiah

The prophecy ... given in old testament and fulfilled by Jesus in New Testament

30. The Messiah would be born of the "seed" of a woman Genesis 3:15a Luke 1:34-35
31. The Messiah would be a descendant of Seth Genesis 4:25 Luke 3:23-38
32. The Messiah would be a descendant of Shem Genesis 9:26 Luke 3:23-36
33. The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham Genesis 12:3 Matthew 1:1
34. Genesis 15:5
35. The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham Genesis 18:17-18a Matthew 1:1
36. The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham Genesis 22:18a Galatians 3:16
37. The Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac Genesis 17:19 Luke 3:23-34
38. The Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac Genesis 21:12 Luke 3:23-34
39. The Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac Genesis 26:4 Luke 3:23-34
40. The Messiah would be a descendant of Jacob Genesis 28:14a Luke 3:23-34
41. The Messiah would be a descendant of Judah Genesis 49:10a Luke 3:23-33
42. The Messiah would be a descendant of Judah 1 Chronicles 5:2 Luke 3:23-33
43. The Messiah would be a descendant of Boaz & Ruth Ruth 4:12-17 Luke 3:23-32
44. The Messiah would be a descendant of Jesse Isaiah 11:1a Luke 3:23-32
45. The Messiah would be a descendant of Jesse Isaiah 11:10a Luke 3:23-32
46. The Messiah would be a descendant of David 2 Samuel 7:12-13 Matthew 1:1
47. The Messiah would be a descendant of David 2 Samuel 7:16 Matthew 1:1
48. The Messiah would be a descendant of David 1 Chronicles 17:11-12a Luke 3:23-31
49. The Messiah would be a descendant of David Psalm 89:3-4 Matthew 1:1
50. The Messiah would be a descendant of David Psalm 89:29 Matthew 1:1
51. The Messiah would be a descendant of David Psalm 89:35-36 Matthew 1:1
52. The Messiah would be a descendant of David Psalm 132:11 Matthew 1:1
53. The Messiah would be a descendant of David Psalm 132:17 Matthew 1:1
54. The Messiah would be a descendant of David Isaiah 7:13-14 Matthew 1:1
55. The Messiah would be a descendant of David Isaiah 9:7 Matthew 1:1
56. The Messiah would be a descendant of David Jeremiah 23:5-6a Luke 3:23-31
57. The Messiah would be a descendant of David Jeremiah 33:14-15 Luke 3:23-31
58. The Messiah would be a descendant of David Ezekiel 17:22-24 Luke 3:23-31
59. The Messiah would be a descendant of David Ezekiel 34:23-24 Matthew 1:1
60. The Messiah would be a descendant of Zerubbabel Haggai 2:23 Luke 3:23-27

originally posted by: RussianTroll
I come to the conclusion that you, who proclaim yourself a Catholic, simply have not read the New Testament.((((

That's because you are thinking through a haze of VODKA.

Jesus words in John 4:22 - You worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.

Jesus said salvation is from the Jews.

Jesus is Jewish. He said so.

a reply to: FlyersFan

These are typical Jewish ideas, combining truth and lies, which are disguised as the Word of God.

Be honest and admit that you are not a Catholic, but a typical Jew. It will make you feel better))))

And don't copy your previous comments any more, especially in large font. This only confirms to readers that you are unsure of your words))))
We don't need hysterics, this is a respectful academic debate.

a reply to: RussianTroll

You do realise that sounds like a rather Hitleresque rant if ever there was one.

True colours and all that jazz?

Coz you're just bursting with the antisemitism and racial hate this evening.

I would love to say I'm surprised but.....................

Edit: Even the edit dont fix your obvious hate towards Jews.

a reply to: RussianTroll

These are typical Jewish ideas, combining truth and lies, which are disguised as the Word of God.

Is the Moscow Patriarchate Marcionite, or is it just you who is Marcionite?

originally posted by: RussianTroll
These are typical Jewish ideas, combining truth and lies, which are disguised as the Word of God.

So now you say that the entire old testament is a 'jewish lie'?

That means you do not believe in the Messiah prophecies.

That means you do not believe that Jesus is a Messiah or Savior.

That means you are not Christian.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Jesus came for the Jews first, many of which accepted him as Messiah others didn't, he not only preached to the Jews he preached to the gentiles or any one who would listen. just about every book in the new testament is credited to a Jew. one is given more credit for writing almost half of the new testament and he persecuted Christians for years before he became a Christian.

what your saying constitutes blasphemy, denying the Holy Spirit being able to turn Jews to Christ which is the only unforgivable sin.

also Paul said in Philippians 1:12-21 New American Standard Bible,

The Gospel Is Preached

12 Now I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that my circumstances have turned out for the greater progress of the gospel, 13 so that my imprisonment in the cause of Christ has become well known throughout the [c]praetorian guard and to everyone else, 14 and that most of the brothers and sisters, [d]trusting in the Lord because of my [e]imprisonment, have far more courage to speak the word of God without fear. 15 Some, to be sure, are preaching Christ even [f]from envy and strife, but some also [g]from goodwill; 16 the latter do it out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel; 17 the former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition [h]rather than from pure motives, thinking that they are causing me distress in my imprisonment. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in this I rejoice.
But not only that, I also will rejoice, 19 for I know that this will turn out for my [a]deliverance through your prayers and the provision of the Spirit of Jesus Christ, 20 according to my eager expectation and hope, that I will not be put to shame in anything, but that with all boldness, Christ will even now, as always, be exalted in my body, whether by life or by death.
To Live Is Christ

21 For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain.

God knows a person heart, he also knows what your doing is stirring up strife, and you will be held accountable come judgement day

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