This war will be eternal

originally posted by: Kennyb75
RT .. I fully respect your position and intelligence and know that Russia and Palestine will prevail, because you have Jesus and our heavenly Father on your side.

No he doesn't.
He denies Jesus.
Therefore Jesus is not on his side.
And his position is misogyny and antisemitism.
And he thinks slaughtering 500,000 Ukrainians in their own country is a 'holy war'.
Not anything to be respected.
The only person on satans payroll, as you say, is RussianTroll.
He denies Jesus. He campaigns against Jesus.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: Kennyb75
Thank you, my friend. Your opinion is important to me!

He isn't helping you. He is enabling your anti-Jesus behavior. He's not your friend. A real friend would tell the truth. That truth being that you are completely wrong about everything, and I do mean everything. You are wrong about Jesus
not being Jewish. You are wrong about the prophecies in the bible. You are wrong about the war in Ukraine. You are wrong about the Russian Orthodox Church and the Catholic church. You are wrong about their history. You are wrong calling me a Jew.

Russia invaded the sovereign nation of Ukraine and slaughtered 500,000 citizens. Ukraine did NOTHING to provoke a war against it. It is not a civil war. It is not a holy war. It is just Russia expansionism. Putin and his army of propagandists have brainwashed the people of Russia to go along with this .... the lemmings all think it's a holy war and that' it's Gods Will. That's DEMONIC. No other word for it ... DEMONIC.

a reply to: annonentity

The crime statistics in Western youth compared to Russian or Muslim youth , seem to suggest that western youth are left to themselves to do what any youth will do without a bit of friendly guidance.

Just over 6% of the UK population are Muslims.
18% of the UK's prison population is Muslim.
Approximately 9% of France's population are Muslims.
Between 40%-50% of its prison population is Muslim.

I've never really looked at Russian crime statistics....but I fail to see how that would be the sole measure of Russia's alleged moral superiority.

Actually, allowing sex reassignment without the parents consent is subversive madness.

Not sure if its 'subversive' madness, but it sure is madness and I honestly don't know one single person who disagrees with you or I on that.
Its a ridiculously small minority of people who are pushing it in support of an even smaller minority. But the impression it gives and the acceptance they advocate will only make it more widespread and that is shear insanity.

Gay people have always existed , along with trans gendered individuals as a small percentage of society.....

Of course, no rational person could deny that.

.....it never has been a problem even in Muslim countries .

Well that's not strictly true.
Its undeniable that they have been discriminated against to varying degrees. And there's no small amount of hypocrisy and double standards in our respective societies.

In 'The West' there has historically been a certain amount of turning a blind eye when elites were homosexual provided they were discreet and didn't openly flaunt it. But it was never generally socially acceptable even when legalised.
I'm not going to discuss paedophiles and nonces - a very sensitive subject and one which I have very strong views that are most definitely not Liberal.

In Muslim society the attitude to gay people and their practices was also hypocritical....and still is.
They view homosexuality between adults as very much prohibited and gay people have always been persecuted.

However, it is acceptable for wealthy, powerful and influential adult males to have pre-pubescent and young teenager partners as long as they are the dominant partner in the relationship. Apologies if I'm being too blunt for some but being penetrated is viewed as the crime, being the penetrator is viewed as being acceptable in many parts of the Muslim world - there is a clear distinction between the two.

Again, a subject that may best not be discussed at too much length in this thread.

And despite what Putin and his followers would have us believe homosexuality is just as common in Russia as it is elsewhere its just that Putin is driving it underground again.

Don't get me wrong, I passionately oppose the extremes of the LGBTQ+ brigade and the insanity they preach and try to dictate but I personally think 'Western' legislation and acceptance of gay people is far more appropriate and just than anything in the Muslim world or Putin's Russia.

originally posted by: annonentity
a reply to: Freeborn
The crime statistics in Western youth compared to Russian or Muslim youth , seem to suggest that western youth are left to themselves to do what any youth will do without a bit of friendly guidance.

Have you ever seen reality shows about the police in Russia? They're on Youtube.
Here's a news report from Radio Free Europe.
www.youtube.com...

a reply to: Solvedit

On what he probably thinks the TV makes him magnetic.

a reply to: annonentity

Gay people have always existed , along with trans gendered individuals as a small percentage of society , it never has been a problem even in Muslim countries

Aside from the flinging them off roofs part you mean, setting them on fire, or imprisonment.

You don't half talk some amount of pi@s.

In some places and Muslim nations like Saudi Arabia/United Arab Emirates.

Or those particularly under extremist groups like ISIS, horrific punishments exist for individuals accused of homosexuality.

a reply to: ADVISOR

, psychotic rage. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Yes!

a reply to: RussianTroll

You be wrote” humanism, mercy, justice, collectivism, ”

This here is what’s wrong with your eternal war idea. Actually more specifically two words, humanism and collectivism… that tells me that his version of ideals and morals today are STILL collectivist and humanist in nature. That tells me that he hasn’t given up on his old kgb communist ideals, he has just tempered them with a more current version. Collectivism is part of the totalitarian model of society ie John Dewey’s children being only cogs in the collectivist wheel of the supreme state.
Remember when communist Russia had banned the Beatles, and Rock n Roll because considered a cultural outrage

a reply to: RussianTroll

also I dunno but are you trying to manifest the grim dark future of 40K with yer full metal church and eternal war
putin isnt the emperor on the golden throne
if anything he would be one of the techno barbarians of old terra years before the unification wars

originally posted by: Kennyb75
a reply to: sapien1982

dude if Russia was such a great christian nation as you said , no one would be fighting in wars , killing is a sin
to murder another is a sin

A good 80% of members on this thread are on Satans payroll and they display zero honesty or integrity or even intelligence. Losers of the world unite on ATS these days and is why I barely visit.

When evil presents itself and attempts to destroy all that is good in the world, then good people have to unite and fight back with whatever it takes. These people are already damned and unless they take corrective action and pray for forgiveness they will spend much of eternity regretting it.

RT .. I fully respect your position and intelligence and know that Russia and Palestine will prevail, because you have Jesus and our heavenly Father on your side.

Yeah...see theres one problem with that. Russia has lied against another people and started a war to slaughter innocent civilians until they give up. We call that BEARING false witness. A MAJOR sin when it leads to murder.

And Palestine? That place has never been a country.Now the proper name of the country thats there is Judea and israel. The Romans illegally renamed it to Palestinia and genocided the hebrew/israelites(notice the slight spelling chang the KGB and PLO used by calling it palestine)Thank goodness the Romans failed to get rid of all jews/hebrews.

Anyway after a while the Ottomans took control of the area of palestinia. It ceased to be officially a area when they ruled it. Then the ottomans lost a war and were no longer a country. the land became britains and frances by spoils of war.(arabs LOVE to say they own something after a war the same way) So the brits /french were to lazy to give the area a name so they just used palestine. Specifically the "area" of palestine,not a country.

They then split the land up between the jews/arabs(who did not own ANY LAND after being genocided in the past)and told them these are your new countries. The arabs didnt like that and VOLUNTARILY left the land to gather a army to come back and wipe out the newly Re-formed Israel. They lost,and going by muslim/arab rules of war they also lost their lands.(which they gave up to gamble on a war)
Israel owns the lands legally(1st war lands ) And as such there is no right to return for the Jordanians,pretending to be palestinians.

Needless to say the"palestinians" are not doing Gods work and are trying to wipe out Gods chosen people even when they are weakened.

I seen posters use alot of pretty words but they lack substance. Catholics are essentially trying to be hebrews because the OT covenant is the commandments (there are more but they are not as important) A priest is essentially a rabbi.
CAtholic church is made up of gentiles though,and they should be under the NT covenant instead. They mix up that the bible is 2 books stuck together. the OT is a HISTORY book essentially.

The NT covenant is what we are under now that Jesus has paid for our sins. Its burden is light compared to the OT covenant.No it didnt destroy the OT covenant,its still there IF you can follow it but thats being a christian on hard mode so to speak. We only make it to heaven through Jesus and his sacrifice. We are under the covenant of Grace.

Putin is a hypocrite it seems.

a reply to: EyeoftheHurricane

Sorry, but I don't understand, are you praising the KGB or Putin? Putin is no better and no worse than the US presidents who were CIA directors. The fact that leaders of countries belong to the secret services, in my opinion, means that no amateur or populist will come to power, which is happening now in the world, and especially in the West. Representatives of the secret services are competent and responsible, unlike puppets who are ready to press a button and destroy the planet.

a reply to: RussianTroll

I think the only US President who was a former CIA Director was George H W Bush?

Which Western countries leaders are/were Secret Service?

a reply to: RussianTroll

The only Muppet threatening to press a button and destroy the World is, of course, Putin.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: RussianTroll

The only Muppet threatening to press a button and destroy the World is, of course, Putin.

someone ought to make one of him, he could sit with Stadtler and Waldorf

ETA not great but I cant be bothered to alter it

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

And all because he can't get what he wants.

Or take it via conventional means.

He's a bully and not even a very good one at that.

And the thing about bullies is they tend to get their comeuppance.

a reply to: andy06shake

If not in this life, almost certainly in the next.

I know I won't get an answer from RT, as he isn't speaking to me, does anyone know of a Western leader who was Secret Service?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I vaguely remember something about Ted Heath being SS.