The debate. Who wins?

originally posted by: Kallipygywiggy

originally posted by: DAVID64
I didn't watch it

originally posted by: network dude
I didn't watch either

originally posted by: FlyersFan
I didn't watch.

Sort of had a little premonition, did we?

The next premonition you'll be "seeing" is the coming price increases and shortages beyond what they all thought was impossible with Biden. They didn't seem to give that much time at the debate. 🤣🤣

Biden isn't done yet and Kamala is just getting started. 🔀🔁💣

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: RazorV66

Hey ATS told me that the VP can't do anything. I don't think VP's resign easily, otherwise Pence would have done it the day after Trump riled up his supporters enough to want to hang him.

Dumb response.

If Harris was so upset with her and Biden's disasters policies to the point that now she is saying her way is a "New Way Forward", she should have resigned in protest.

Well I know I'm 30 pages behind here and I'm not reading back through all of that .

My opinion of last nights debate.

Trump once again underestimated the Lefts desperate need to win and their willingness to cheat to do so.

Every Answer Harris gave was COMPLETELY SCRIPTED and that was painfully obvious . She knew Exactly what the Questions were and when they would be asked that was also PAINFULLY OBVIOUS .

Trump Walked into trap after trap after trap . But that is not me taking up for Trump , The man should have done better end of story.

Harris Came off as completely Fake and Scripted and Trump seemed like he wasn't really even paying attention until the end.

Trump did get in a few good ones though that every voter in America has been wanting to ask Harris.

It's hard to call last night a debate because it really wasn't ...... It was just Harris giving pre-scripted answers and Trump mainly on defense .

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Trump lost the debate last night but Harris didn't win.

Hell, to do an interview she needed Walz.

To do a debate, she needed biased moderators.

Trump came in too confident and underestimated Harris and the moderators.

Trump missed numerous “kill shots”, was fuzzy, and allowed himself to be baited.
He was unprepared for the debate.
Harris didn’t answer questions and delivered rehearsed set pieces which came across as weak and inauthentic.
On optics, he came across as serious and resolute.
Harris’ haughty split-screen pantomime came across as unserious and unlikeable.
That hand under her chin move is totally unlikeable and karenesqe.
Made me cringe everytime she did that.
Funny they thought so highly of it that her handlers told her to do that. 🤡
It goes without saying that the ABC was a disgrace.
They spent five times the time talking about abortion than on the economy.
Totally unhinged and detached from the voters.
Trump came off as Trump.
Essentially a wash for him.
Harris came off as scripted, pompous, totally inauthentic and hollow.
Essentially a loss and she’s worse off for doing it.
She needed a giant win or at least a viral zinger or two.
She came away with bupkis.
Media once again showed their blatant partisanship and validated why you can’t hate them enough.
Essentially those two “moderators” and ABC burned the voters.
The race baiting was truly desperate and despicable.

“Why are you a racist Mr Trump?”
“What do you think about that Miss Harris?”
GTFOH

a reply to: DBCowboy

Trump came in too confident and underestimated Harris and the moderators.

Exactly . The Left was absolutely desperate to win that debate . I'd say Harris has been preparing non-stop for weeks .

But she was too prepared and it showed like a red hot poker . She was not debating, she was performing a Scripted stage performance .

Yes Trump underestimated the whole situation . And there will not be another debate , no way they risk putting Harris on stage again.

Hell, to do an interview she needed Walz

Yes I have to say that will go down in History as one of the Strangest things I've seen a Presidential Candidate do....

Why was he there ?

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: putnam6

The..."I'm speaking now...I'm speaking now!"...quote by Trump was awesome. I fully expected Harris to say that, and Trump stole her thunder with it. Very clever move on Trump's part. I just wish he would have followed it with a slam dunk, and I don't think he did. It would have been a perfect segue to..."Tell us, what's you're plan?...and then a mic drop.

Or simply hold her more to account.
She (falsely) promises to do this and that in the future.

Trump should have bluntly stated :
What prevented you from doing any of this over the past 3.5 years ?
What prevents you from doing this NOW ? RIGHT NOW ?

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Yes Trump underestimated the whole situation . And there will not be another debate , no way they risk putting Harris on stage again.

Sounds like Trump is signaling he doesn’t want to do another one.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Yes Trump underestimated the whole situation . And there will not be another debate , no way they risk putting Harris on stage again.

Sounds like Trump is signaling he doesn’t want to do another one.

unless it's on FOX and Harris would never ever ever ever ever EVER Do that .

So yeah I don't blame him.

It would just be another set up on him.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: DBCowboy

Trump came in too confident and underestimated Harris and the moderators.

She was not debating, she was performing a Scripted stage performance .

Made possible because, just like Hillary in 2016, she was given the questions in advance, which ABC had said they would not do ( but then ABC lied in 2016 too...)

a reply to: malte86

"what are your thoughts and predictions?"

My thought is that it's crying shame these two no-talents are running for President. It wasn't even a real debate; just a slug and spit fest, each calling the other a liar. They obviously are clueless on many points. Trump doesn't understand tariffs and Kamala has never had an original thought in her life. All Kamala has ever done is "nuance" her way through problems while kissing the butt of the bigger fish higher up the food chain. Trump runs on immigration in a country in which 25% of the residents are foreign born.....he's so too late to close the gate it's not even funny. What's truly appealing is what Trump DOESN"T know. So, recent headline.......last quarter 1.5 million US born citizens lost their jobs while 1.4 million foreign born residents got new jobs. Trump could have made hay with that one but obviously missed it.

The US hasn't seen candidate quality this low since the 1800's.

Top 5 lies that the ABC News moderators refused to fact-check or falsely fact-checked during the debate:

1. Mandatory Firearm Buybacks:
Kamala Harris told Trump to "stop lying" about her wanting to confiscate firearms. Harris has previously stated multiple times that she wants to launch a mandatory buyback program.
The ABC moderators said nothing.

2. "Fine People" Hoax:
Kamala Harris claimed Trump called neo-Nazi's "very fine people." This hoax was debunked by Snopes but the ABC moderators let it slide.
The ABC moderators said nothing.

3. Post-Birth Abortion:
Trump claimed babies were 'killed' outside the womb in failed abortions. Under Tim Walz, babies born alive in botched abortions are allowed to be left to die.
Eight babies who survived abortions in Minnesota were abandoned and sadly perished under Walz.
The ABC moderators simply said Trump was lying and moved on without adding context.

4. Defund the Police:
Kamala Harris laughed when Trump said she wanted to defund the police. During a previous interview, Harris said having more cops on the street is "wrong."
She also supported taking police officers out of schools.
The ABC moderators said nothing.

5. Bloodbath Hoax:
Kamala Harris claimed Trump said there would be a bloodbath if he is not elected, insinuating that his supporters would start killing people.

This is completely false. The comment was made during a rally where Trump said there would be a "bloodbath" for the American auto industry if he is not elected.
The ABC moderators said nothing.
x.com...

Trump was “fact checked” four times compared to Kamala’s zero. Trump was pushed six times on questions and Kamala pushed zero times.

Some honorable mentions from the debate that also didn't get fact-checked:

Kamala saying Trump would ban IVF.
Kamala saying Project 2025 belongs to Trump.
Kamala saying Trump would sign a national abortion ban.
Kamala claiming police officers died on J6.

Why do Haitians people wait until they get to Springfield Ohio to eat the cats and dogs?
Do they really taste better up there?

Also, when is the next debate?
Will Don put himself through the wringer again?

Perhaps he can hire Star-Trek villain Victor Orban, as his next debate coach?

originally posted by: Vermilion

Top 5 lies that the ABC News moderators refused to fact-check or falsely fact-checked during the debate:

1. Mandatory Firearm Buybacks:
Kamala Harris told Trump to "stop lying" about her wanting to confiscate firearms. Harris has previously stated multiple times that she wants to launch a mandatory buyback program.
The ABC moderators said nothing.

2. "Fine People" Hoax:
Kamala Harris claimed Trump called neo-Nazi's "very fine people." This hoax was debunked by Snopes but the ABC moderators let it slide.
The ABC moderators said nothing.

3. Post-Birth Abortion:
Trump claimed babies were 'killed' outside the womb in failed abortions. Under Tim Walz, babies born alive in botched abortions are allowed to be left to die.
Eight babies who survived abortions in Minnesota were abandoned and sadly perished under Walz.
The ABC moderators simply said Trump was lying and moved on without adding context.

4. Defund the Police:
Kamala Harris laughed when Trump said she wanted to defund the police. During a previous interview, Harris said having more cops on the street is "wrong."
She also supported taking police officers out of schools.
The ABC moderators said nothing.

5. Bloodbath Hoax:
Kamala Harris claimed Trump said there would be a bloodbath if he is not elected, insinuating that his supporters would start killing people.

This is completely false. The comment was made during a rally where Trump said there would be a "bloodbath" for the American auto industry if he is not elected.
The ABC moderators said nothing.
x.com...

Trump was “fact checked” four times compared to Kamala’s zero. Trump was pushed six times on questions and Kamala pushed zero times.

Some honorable mentions from the debate that also didn't get fact-checked:

Kamala saying Trump would ban IVF.
Kamala saying Project 2025 belongs to Trump.
Kamala saying Trump would sign a national abortion ban.
Kamala claiming police officers died on J6.

They Went full MSNBC Retard on Trump last night .

If I was him i would not do another debate ... Last night was a complete setup.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
You wrote
“but honestly, she didn't come off as a radical. Trump could have stumped her far better by just…”
And I say, no she came off as a honeypot. She does that really well. Look how many people here fell for it even knowing she was standing by Biden for 31/2 years and endorsed his policies then tries to steal Trumps policies as if it were all her own.
Here’s the Gateway Pundit take on it
www.thegatewaypundit.com...

Trump not only faced Kamala Harris head-on, but he also had to deal with the “biased” moderators who were set on undermining his powerful arguments.

Megyn Kelly @megynkelly · Follow These moderators are a disgraceful failure and this is one of the most biased, unfair debates I have ever seen. Shame on you @ABC 7:45 PM · Sep 10, 2024

Elise Stefanik @EliseStefanik · Follow These @ABC moderators are not journalists. They are Democrat activists. 8:01 PM · Sep 10, 2024 10.4K Reply Copy link

In an official statement, Trump’s campaign managers Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles had this to say about Trump’s stellar performance: “President Trump delivered a masterful debate performance tonight, prosecuting Kamala Harris’ abysmal record of failure that has hurt Americans for the last 4 years.

I am 100% in agreement with Megyn, Elise, and Trumps Campaign manager Chris LaCivita.
They democrats and their media lackeys think all
Americans are just too stupid to see the setup.

originally posted by: Cvastar
a reply to: malte86

"what are your thoughts and predictions?"

My thought is that it's crying shame these two no-talents are running for President. It wasn't even a real debate; just a slug and spit fest, each calling the other a liar. They obviously are clueless on many points. Trump doesn't understand tariffs and Kamala has never had an original thought in her life. All Kamala has ever done is "nuance" her way through problems while kissing the butt of the bigger fish higher up the food chain. Trump runs on immigration in a country in which 25% of the residents are foreign born.....he's so too late to close the gate it's not even funny. What's truly appealing is what Trump DOESN"T know. So, recent headline.......last quarter 1.5 million US born citizens lost their jobs while 1.4 million foreign born residents got new jobs. Trump could have made hay with that one but obviously missed it.

The US hasn't seen candidate quality this low since the 1800's.

I’m sorry, but Trump has a much better understanding of economics than trashy liar kh Marxist will ever have. Marxist redistribution tactics will always ruin every economy and state it ever touches. Just look at economies in South America and Africa where Marxist communist and socialist policies prevailed.
Only a person completely ignorant of his the economy works wound go for it. By the way, one if the mainstays of Marxism is “ the ends justifies the means.”
And the end result is always bad.

a reply to: spacedoubt

I mean it is happening.

www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: FlyersFan
I didn't watch.
It was way past my bedtime, and it would have just annoyed me.

From reading multiple sources with different agendas ...
Trump didn't do too well.
But Harris didn't either.
He said some stuff that didn't add up.
And he rambled and went off topic as usual.
She made false accusations about Project 2025 and IVF.
And she didn't actually answer questions, just had rehearsed platitudes.
And I see that she made a lot of stupid facial gestures.
The moderators called Trump out, but let Harris get away with her crap.

Looks like I didn't miss much.

That's what I saw

About the facial expressions (Trump had his too); do these politicians think they work to convince people of something? Or do they just don't know what to do with themselves when the other guy is talking?

Heiress met her bar.

Trump didn't quite meet his.


What is being omitted is that the bar heights are very different......