Eighty thousand deserters in Ukraine

a reply to: andy06shake

So dodging my questions...got it...carry on propagandizing...

a reply to: Oldcarpy2
You kiss my a$$! You're nothing but a keyboard warrior.

And not a very good one at that!

a reply to: RickyD

How is it dodging the question?

The hypothetical situation you choose to introduce is beyond stupid.

Ireland would never entertain the prospect of Russian military bases in their nation.

So why bother to ponder scenarios that are bat crap crazy and off the wall.

You would have been as well using aliens. LoL

What if aliens had bases in Ireland and chose to infiltrate and/or install a government that would jump to their tune?

Also, you would need to provide tangible proof that ""we"" engineered a coup in Ukraine back in 2014.

The CIA get the blame and is responsible for everything you see.

a reply to: RickyD

If you want to bring up videos then post them.

Am I supposed to spend ages of my time looking for them?

Perhaps you might comment on the sources I have posted, like, as recently, as, today?

originally posted by: nugget1

I have a gut feeling that Putin is holding back until the new US POTUS is installed; if the 'wrong' one is sworn i all hell is going to break lose.

Holding back with what exactly...lol

a reply to: charlest2

Do you have a mirror?

a reply to: Xtrozero

T34s?

Yakovlek Yaks from WW2?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Do you have a mirror?

Outward appearances mean nothing. Can you look into you soul and recognize the disgust I see in you?


Feeling butthurt yet?

a reply to: charlest2

Outward appearances mean nothing.

They do if you dont wish to bump into anything and avoid obstacles.

Should we not be on the topic of the thread instead of flinging mud at one another?

All that will happen is that DTOM will come along and remove thee post.

a reply to: charlest2

Like I might care what you might think?

As you plainly have no clue about what a discussion forum like ATS is about, or it's T&Cs, I will take your claims with a large ish pinch of salt.

Top Gun.

a reply to: andy06shake

I'm only responding to a fools provocations.


I have been here 7 years. As long as the mods don't shut me up, I'll continue to call a spade a spade.

a reply to: andy06shake

I'd still like to see some evidence for the OP's claim that NATO troops are invading Kursk?

Or is being on topic abandoned? 😔

a reply to: charlest2

I have been here 7 years. As long as the mods don't shut me up, I'll continue to call a spade a spade.

Nobody telling you to be quiet.

I'm just pointing out what's apt to happen.

Because DTOM or another mod will simply come along and point out the fact that there is no longer a mud pit.

If we dont return to the topic of "Eighty thousand deserters in Ukraine" or at least Ukraine in general.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Yeah, that's not happening.

Or if it is, i cannot find any sort of credible evidence to support the claim.

Now Ukrainian troops, probably be there for the winter if Russia canny get them out soon.

Which i strongly suspect they are going to be rather hard-pushed to achieve.

a reply to: andy06shake

Perhaps we should send tanks, aircraft, ammo, tractors, boots and stuff via Arctic Convoys, to Russia, again?

No. Probably not.

Although some on here might like that.

a reply to: andy06shake
As I have already stated, I am only responding to a certain party's provocations. Problem is some knuckleheads don't know when it is in there best interest to stop. By continuing, they continue to spew garbage in spite of revealing their petty shallowness.

My problem is, only a fool will argue with another fool.

In reality, there is not much need for the mods to delete posts, because what is posted has generally already been reviewed by the parties involved.

a reply to: andy06shake

Would be interesting if someone might be able to post some evidence, like, on topic, for the OP's claim that NATO troops are in Kursk, invading Russia?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I've been asking for that since page one, same as most other peeps.

What are we on now page nine.................

The problem being "eighty thousand Ukrainian soldiers , charged for various offences" dont equate to "eighty thousand deserters".

As to the claim that NATO troops are in Kursk.

That's just Russian butthurt because Ukraine is spanking their monkey for once.

a reply to: andy06shake

Ah, but that's because you are brainwashed by western MSM propaganda and the constant stream of BBC feeding us stuff about Hunter's lap top?

Oh. Wait. They haven't.....

a reply to: andy06shake

From page 4 by twistedpuppy. This is the only evidence I have seen so far and it caused me to doubt the veracity of the original posts.

You talk about yourself?
I can say the same about pro-Putin folks; repeating the same nonsense again and again and not responding to counter arguments.

It's up to the OP to prove his/her claim citing valid sources. And the random nobody having a YouTube channel isn't really a source that can be trusted, especially that there's plenty of disinformation surrounding this war.

Both Ukraine and Russia have problems with desertion. The problems begin when you try to give the exact numbers. This article is from March but I doubt things have changed all that much since that time.

Nearly 4700 cases of desertion reported in Ukraine since beginning of the year.

So let's count:
6000 in 2022,
16000 in 2023,
4700 in 2024 but this was in March so let's double this number, let's say 10000 in the most pessimistic scenario.
6000+16000+10000 gives 32 000

According to the Russian propaganda. Even they don't point to 80000. Don't be holier than the pope.

a reply to: twistedpuppy

Well do tell. Everybody so far has been spouting opinions based on conjecture and what if scenarios. Even me, maybe.

You are the first to present actual evidence to refute the original post. Thank you! I will accept that the article originally posted may be inaccurate based on what you have provided.

Maybe my stirring the pot produced results after all.

Even so, I stand by what I said concerning changing opinions here. It only happens when the moon is blue.