The Project 2025 Psyop .

a reply to: BingoMcGoof

Trump is not conservative and hence has no allegiance to them other than how he can continue to fleece so many of them money and votes. He needs votes and will turn in which ever direction he needs to attain them. The defeats in the down ballot after Roe pointed to him taking a softer stance so he did yet at the same time brags about how it was him who defeated it.

I find it so very interesting how anyone can defend either party so vehemently.

Kamal is not a liberal; she has always embraced socialist and Marxist agendas until she became the nominee and did a total about face.

Since overturning R v W abortions have skyrocketed, so 'womens rights' seems to be more about creating anger and division for vote pandering than a real issue.

Harris and Walz have abismal political records spanning their entire careers, but as long as they can keep their base focused on Trump and Vance they escape much needed scrutiny.

Both parties have become corrupt to the core and no 'honest' politician will ever be allowed to enter their ranks. That's not how politics work.

For a lot of people it boils down to which party seems to create the harshest living conditions. With more people jouining the ranks of poverty and below poverty level living it's a no-brainer which party will get their vote.
Guess which segment of society will get to pay for all the people living on government subsidies?

a reply to: wAnchorofCarp

Pages 19 through page 883. Particularly 449 though 503.

Specifics been covered at length.

The fear is they are crazy cultist protestant witch burners that seek to essentially reboot temperance, take out woke on women, reinforce Comstock Laws (pg 485), destroy LGBT family plans, and remove LGBT as a federally protected class specifically to go after the "T" (475). The plan is to do it through a reworking of the executive into a hivemind of acquiescent doormats and EOs.

a reply to: Degradation33

Got a quote.....?

As popular as it is to call ATS a right-wing echo chamber, its amazing to me that I just searched the site for "Project 25" and this is the only post aside from this one that comes up:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
It's authored by one of our progressive members. Imagine that.

The conservatives, on this site at least, are SOOOOOO on board with this BS that the feed is just inundated with post after post supporting all things "Project 25"!! 😲

Except it clearly isn't and no one here is pushing that crap.

Are there fanatics on both sides? ABSOLUTELY. So no need to deflect, I got you covered.

My point is that, progressives WANT AND NEED to believe that conservatism is throwing their collective weight behind that BS. Why? Because it gives them a cause that would otherwise be non-existent.

What have they got aside from "Project 25" references and abortion rights to run on?

"Trump is orange"?? Most of their supporters can't even tell you WHY they hate him, they just do. Lol.

I'm personally AGAINST the radicalization of any side as it only brings harm and misery to everyone.

History proves this, and yet progressives think they know where others have gone wrong. Meanwhile, everything goes to 💩 until they FINALLY realize it was a bad idea.

Example: Defund the police and decriminalizing theft and disorder.

They're walking that back now, but I'm inclined to think that's the case ONLY because it's election season.

HEY PROGRESSIVES! You do realize that if they win, all this "reform" is going to be shelved shortly thereafter, right?

Right??

You're crying now about crime and expenses and jobs and expenses and crime and jobs...

Are you honestly prepared for things getting exponentially worse by orders of magnitude?? That's not hyperbole either!

The economic agenda of Harris's handlers will snuff out any hopes of recovery and just hasten the socioeconomic implosion that a Trump administration might be able to stave off or at least slow down.www.zerohedge.com...

Nothing can be totally fixed in 4 years that took decades to create. When Harris says she'll "finish the job", that means YOU AND I.

When is a job finished as it pertains to governance? What will be "complete or completed" in reference to "finishing the job"??

Project 25 is just a ball of yarn tossed to people that can't knit.

a reply to: nugget1

We could argue each and every point here but what would that serve either of us other than an one-upmanship game. I find no value in that. However your first sentence I find to be a good ground to converse over.

I find it so very interesting how anyone can defend either party so vehemently.

Me as well. Standing apart from either party allows one to recognize just how much they resemble each other, in tactics and in fundamental structure. Both rely upon professing core Christian values depending upon what issues they want to emphasize. Both parties defend capitalism, though one party will paint the other as being anti capitalist when in reality the natue of capitalism itself is open to evolving to suit the world around it.

Both parties have become corrupt to the core and no 'honest' politician will ever be allowed to enter their ranks. That's not how politics work.

Here I agree as well.I have not cared for a potus for over, well, ever. Half of my voting years my vote has gone to third party candidates. Remember the Citizen's Party? Barry Commoner ran for that party with a one word platform. ''Bull$hit''.

It's Party Politics that is our problem,and worse, Two Party Politics. It should come as no surprise though,we humans have been tribal and herdish for all of our existence. We have depended upon those around us for our security from the wilds and that tribalism is long bred. If we had a dozen parties I think we would be broken into twelve tribes. But now we have two and there we have it. It's only one step away vrom Big Brother Politics and it's my opinion that that is just around the corner.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: asabuvsobelow
You have no proof it is a left PsyOp. It isn't like this foundation just popped up in the last couple of years and they are conservative.

Whoever or however the lefties react to it doesn't change the source.

Yes it's an old foundation ... But things are not always what they seem .

The Democrat party is how old ?? And yet would say the Democrat party is the JFK Democrats ? or the Clinton Democrats ? It's a Socialist party now and all of that happened right under your nose .

Point being the Democrat party is not what it once was . And what ever this Heritage Foundation once was it is no longer because 'Project 2025 ' is nothing but a divisive manifesto .....

Think about it What if Christianity all of the sudden went back to the old 'Fire and Brimstone sermons ' do you think that would win new believers over ?

You need to see a thing for what it is , not what you're being told it is .

a reply to: VariedcodeSole

Exactly

The only side using ' Project 2025 ' is the Left .

Almost like it's purposeful Opposition clearly created by the Left.

a reply to: wAnchorofCarp

Well, now it's just a hoop to jump through, and I can't do it anymore. Unless I simultaneously reassert some control.

So page 481?

Protect faith-based grant recipients from religious liberty violations that maintain a biblically based, social science–reinforced definition of marriage and family.

Social science reports that assess the objective outcomes for children raised in homes aside from a heterosexual, intact marriage are clear: All other family forms involve higher levels of instability (the average length of same-sex marriages is half that of heterosexual marriages); financial stress or poverty; or poorer behavioral, psychological,
or educational outcomes.

Is this Theocracy lite™️, where you can't quite come out and say you support a government crafted on biblical teachings? Protecting faith-based organizations on the ground they are right using bias confirming studies only.

If the exterme parts of Project 2025 are ever tried you know what the answer will be. It will engineer more "Satanism."

a reply to: Degradation33

So now it's theocracy lite?

It was christo fascism.

More empty rhetoric.


I appreciate you specifically taking the time. But there is much more serious things to be concerned with IMO.

All I have to say is, look at the world we live in without project 2025 informing (not mandating, merely informing) government policy and socioeconomic regulation where such regulation is critical to production. Not all of it is useful, but much of it deserves to be explored and debated without fear of theocratic fascism or xenophobic nationalism. Nobody wants war or genocide or internment or any kind of dystopian conflict, we just want honest productive dialogue.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
You need to see a thing for what it is , not what you're being told it is .

Does that include what you are saying it is?

The only beef I have is with you acting like Trump doesn't know what Project 2025 is or who is behind it. Which seems unlikely.

Everything else is just conjecture on your part.

Also, divisiveness is what politics has always been about. Why blame one side when both play the same game?

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof

The Truth is Donald Trump has nothing to do with Project 2025. The man Doesn’t even know who is truly behind the agenda and for that matter nor do any of us . ? But wait, I think we do know who’s behind it .

Nor do any of us ?

How can anyone even say that with a straight face. We KNOW who is behind it, who wrote it, and who penned the forward to the book.

Answer me a few simple questions .

Who has Project 2025 benefited ?

Who constantly Brings up Project 2025 ?

Why would a conservative write something like project 2025 knowing full well the Left will use it as a Rallying Cry ?

Show me a single instance where Trump or any Relevant Republican has mentioned Project 2025 in a supportive manner ....

If both sides if politics are just opposite sides to the same coin then conservatives would

If he’s a grifter and conman why didn’t he make bank whilst president? Conversely if every other politician is truly a public servant why do so many of them become millionaires whilst ‘serving’ the people?

Surely a grifter would have a field day whilst holding office and use their political influence to apply pressure for their families benefit.

Like throwing the weight of the mic behind fomenting conflict in a country where their dirty laundry is being turned into filthy lucre, like Ukraine going to sh!t to destroy evidence they were ever there.

Don’t ya tink?

Child sacrifice. Seems like a leftist thing.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: KrustyKrab

Great and I'll vote for daffy duck over the criminal, narcissistic former President who only cares about himself and how many people will follow him, even to the point of ruining their lives with criminal convictions to show their support.

Daffy Duck for prez! He’s a candidate both sides can get behind 😂🤣

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: KrustyKrab
First off, I'm not a lefty.

Second when the Heritage Foundation said Trump followed 2/3 of their guidelines in his first term and Trump has said he has worked with them, how can anyone claim he doesn't know about them?

The Heritage foundation is a US based group representing the interests of a bunch of actual citizens of the US, whether you like those citizens or not.

Now do WEF... or is that just a conspiracy theory? Odd that a conspiracy theory has annual meetings with global oligarchs, megacorporations, banking elites, and Western lefties, where they plan exactly what those people are going to do until the next meeting. I believe most people that are "not a lefty" don't find US citizens advocating for US policy to be a greater threat than foreign influencers with an unabashed platform of socioeconomic eugenics. I don't recall anybody that's "not a lefty" expounding on the need to eliminate 90% of the useless eaters, nor anybody that's "not a lefty" acting as ballwasher for them.

You don't become a self-appointed fact-checker "correcting the record" on behalf of WEF, Gates, the WHO, the FDA, and the CDC, if you aren't ideologically aligned with the US and EU lefties. Everything you claim about US politics, not to mention virtually everything else you fact check, is based on things you consumed through a screen and have no actual experience with. Most of it, US lefty ideology.

You can self-identity as "not a lefty", but your posts reveal a severe case of ideological dysphoria.

Perhaps there are some hormones that can make you more comfortable with your ideological identity? It must be horrible to constantly post lefty posts that defend lefty politicians and lefty NGOs when you are "not a lefty". Testosterone supplementation has shown efficacy in reducing the frequency of posting lefty support and lefty propaganda for those who identify as "not a lefty".

If only you'd started testosterone supplementation as a young teen this dysphoria may have been avoided and you could be living an authentic "not a lefty" life right now.

Sad.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof

The Truth is Donald Trump has nothing to do with Project 2025. The man Doesn’t even know who is truly behind the agenda and for that matter nor do any of us . ? But wait, I think we do know who’s behind it .

Nor do any of us ?

How can anyone even say that with a straight face. We KNOW who is behind it, who wrote it, and who penned the forward to the book.

Answer me a few simple questions .

Who has Project 2025 benefited ?

Who constantly Brings up Project 2025 ?

Why would a conservative write something like project 2025 knowing full well the Left will use it as a Rallying Cry ?

Show me a single instance where Trump or any Relevant Republican has mentioned Project 2025 in a supportive manner ....

Who brings up Project 2025 ? How about Gavin Newsom in a Congressional hearing grilling Ben Shapiro about it for starters. Makes one wonder why Shapiro was being grilled as if he’s responsible.

a reply to: daskakik

The only beef I have is with you acting like Trump doesn't know what Project 2025 is or who is behind it. Which seems unlikely.

Like I said you can Google the ' Writers of Project 25 ' it's not a mystery.

But Project 2025 does not serve to benefit the conservatives does it ? It benefits the Left.

Hints the true perpetrators of Project 2025 are a mystery . Hints why I put this in the 'Political Conspiracy Forum ' and my theory Project 2025 is a left Psyop.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow
So the people who call themselves conservatives put the project together to benefit the left, because you say so?

OK.