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originally posted by: underpass61
originally posted by: Kaiju666
originally posted by: Digital1010
originally posted by: Threadbarer
Get out and vote! Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine!…In four years, you don’t have to vote again.
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Those were Trump's words at a Turning Point event last night.
From a man that has promised he'll be a dictator on Day One and has parroted that language of the authoritarian roadmap that is Project 2025, I'd say the implications are quite clear.
Nobody has to vote now, are you saying the Democrats will force voting 🤷♂️
Yes, they’ll cast your vote/ballot for you whether you want or whom you may want for or not.
You forgot about whether you're alive or not
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: putnam6
The fact is Trump has already stated he will not block the abortion pill which in itself accounts for 80% of all abortions,
The same Trump who doesn't know nothing about Project 2025? The same Trump who's going to fix it for Christians, so that they'll never have to vote again.
Can the President crown himself as King and abolish voting in the US
No, the President of the United States cannot crown himself as King or abolish voting. There are several important reasons for this:
Constitutional limits: The U.S. Constitution establishes a republican form of government and does not allow for a monarchy. It also guarantees the right to vote for citizens.
Separation of powers: The president's powers are limited by the Constitution and balanced by the legislative and judicial branches.
Term limits: Presidents are limited to a maximum of two four-year terms.
Democratic principles: The U.S. is founded on principles of democracy and representative government, which are fundamental to its political system.
Legal and institutional barriers: Any attempt to make such drastic changes would face immense legal challenges and resistance from other government branches, states, and citizens.
Historical precedent: No president has ever attempted or succeeded in such an action, and it goes against the core values of American democracy.
Changing the fundamental structure of the U.S. government would require a constitutional amendment, which is a complex process requiring broad support from Congress and the states. It's designed to prevent radical, unilateral changes to the system of government.
Even in a national emergency, the President cannot unilaterally declare himself king or abolish voting. Here's why:
Limited emergency powers: While the President can declare a national emergency, their powers are still constrained by law and the Constitution.
National Emergencies Act: This 1976 law sets limits on emergency powers and requires Congressional oversight.
Checks and balances: Other branches of government would intervene:
Congress can terminate a state of emergency
The Supreme Court can rule on the constitutionality of actions taken
Military leaders are sworn to uphold the Constitution, not individuals
State governments: States have significant autonomy and would likely resist unconstitutional federal overreach.
Public resistance: Such actions would likely face massive public protests and civil disobedience.
International pressure: The global community would likely condemn and potentially sanction such a move.
Precedent: Past national emergencies (e.g., during wars or economic crises) have not led to the abolition of core democratic institutions.
While emergencies can lead to temporary expansions of executive power, they do not allow for the complete dismantling of the constitutional order. The system is designed with multiple safeguards against authoritarian takeover, even in crisis situations.
originally posted by: nugget1
Trump says "Get aout and vote for me! You won't have to vote aagain in four more years!"
Karine Jean-Pierre explaination of what he's really saying:
'Get out and vote for me in 2024; you won't have to vote for me in four years 2028 because I won't be eligible to run again'.
It's worked quite well for Biden, but that's different.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
We know what Trump and his donors/owners have in store for us. They're making no secret in broadcasting it in their 900 page Project 2025 blueprint.
We also know that Trump stands for nothing himself, but ego, greed and grift.
originally posted by: 5thHead
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
We know what Trump and his donors/owners have in store for us. They're making no secret in broadcasting it in their 900 page Project 2025 blueprint.
We also know that Trump stands for nothing himself, but ego, greed and grift.
Wait. So, you're saying project 2025 is 900 pages of how AWESOME Trump is and how greedy he is and how gifty he is?
Good to know. I thought it was something else entirely and that Trump doesn't even endorse it /s
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: putnam6
Take Trump literally, but not seriously.
Take Trump seriously, but not literally.
We've been through this before.
We know what Trump and his donors/owners have in store for us. They're making no secret in broadcasting it in their 900 page Project 2025 blueprint.
We also know that Trump stands for nothing himself, but ego, greed and grift.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: Threadbarer
From a man that has promised he'll be a dictator on Day One and has parroted that language of the authoritarian roadmap that is Project 2025, I'd say the implications are quite clear.
He was just bloviating. He was saying that in four years everything will be fixed by him and you won't need to vote to save America because it will already be saved. He doesn't say it very well because he bloviates but listen to the whole speech. That's what he was saying.
You remind me of the left wingers going nuts and saying that Trump said there would be a violent bloodbath if he's not elected. He didn't say that either. He said to auto workers that there would be a bloodbath in the car industry if he wasn't voted in because the car industry would fail.
And just stop with the Project 2025 nonsense. The left wing boogyman. Trump already said he had nothing to do with it and hasn't even read it. It's a right wing think tank. SO WHAT? The left has them as well.
He must be working the long game.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: Threadbarer
From a man that has promised he'll be a dictator on Day One and has parroted that language of the authoritarian roadmap that is Project 2025, I'd say the implications are quite clear.
He was just bloviating. He was saying that in four years everything will be fixed by him and you won't need to vote to save America because it will already be saved. He doesn't say it very well because he bloviates but listen to the whole speech. That's what he was saying.
You remind me of the left wingers going nuts and saying that Trump said there would be a violent bloodbath if he's not elected. He didn't say that either. He said to auto workers that there would be a bloodbath in the car industry if he wasn't voted in because the car industry would fail.
And just stop with the Project 2025 nonsense. The left wing boogyman. Trump already said he had nothing to do with it and hasn't even read it. It's a right wing think tank. SO WHAT? The left has them as well.
It is obvious that he is trying to negate the electoral process. It goes to more than just his words at one particular time and place.
I also doubt that if he didn't fix anything in the last four years, that he won't be able to fix anything over four more years.