95% of World's Protests are Pro-Palestinian and Anti-Israel

a reply to: CaptainY

Your tacit support of hamas and the destruction of Israel is tiring.

But also very telling.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: CaptainY

Your tacit support of hamas and the destruction of Israel is tiring.

But also very telling.

And your strawman arguments are also tiring but easily spotted. If you had any good arguments then possibly one could engage with you in a conversation. But as long as you unequivocally support Israel and you admit the total destruction of Gaza is an option (as you have done in the past calling for the flattening of Gaza) then you have lost the moral argument and there is nothing to say.

The fact that there are so many protests showing support for ceasefire, peace, and the Palestinian cause, speaks for itself. It's self explanatory in a few words.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: CaptainY

Your tacit support of hamas and the destruction of Israel is tiring.

But also very telling.

The whole world has seen what is happening in Gaza and how Palestinians have been treated all these years and it's likely this will lead to an Independent Palestine Stafe after this war has ended.

The are several calls for the arrest of Netanyahou and his Government for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Latest from the South African Government


www.africanews.com...

The South African government on Monday called on the International Criminal Court to issue an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by mid-December.

Minister in the Presidency Khumbudzo Ntshavheni said it would signal a "total failure" of global governance if the ICC does not do so.

"The world cannot simply stand by and watch. The global community needs to rise to stop this genocide now," said Ntshavheni.

Protests, condemnations of violence, and calls for the arrest of Netanyahou and his Government. I think you're getting the message.

a reply to: CaptainY

The only people supporting hamas and palestinians are people who have no knowledge of history, white-supremacists, antisemites.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: CaptainY

The only people supporting hamas and palestinians are people who have no knowledge of history, white-supremacists, antisemites.

Almost the entire world is against the war and in favour of peace. Your arguments are bogus as always.

But we know who is in favour of this war. Classical warmongers, ultra right wing fascistoids, those who unequivocally support Israel, some Evangelical Christians, and the lunatics.

a reply to: CaptainY

I'm in favor of peace, the palestinians started this war.

Your side started this war.

The side you are defending started this war.

All the palestinians need to do for peace is surrender, return all hostages, and recognize Israel as a sovereign nation.

Then you can have peace.

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: Wolfff

You know as well as I do those people operating in secular governments have their lazy motivations wrt the conflict in Gaza based upon religious convictions just as these pro-zionists do.

But most of them use it only as a smokescreen to garner support among the people who are genuinely religious and whose religious instincts are triggered in a predictable manner by those who would pull our strings.

A politician is all about the payday and the connections to power.

Okay, but I'm still faced with the choice between a corrupt, power hungry government that is secular and answers to international organizations/laws and doesn't wish to kill or convert me; or a corrupt, power hungry theocracy that does want to convert/kill me and does not answer to international organizations/laws.

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: Freeborn

I can only state so many times that those responsible for Oct 7 needs to die.

The question then becomes, how would any of us respond to being oppressed in our own countries while the oppressors is also responsible for funding the terrorists in charge of our own country?

That is the same question I have regarding the spread of Islamic theocratic governments. For instance, how does a woman, gay, Christian, etc. respond to being oppressed in their own countries while the oppressors are also responsible for funding the terrorists in charge of their own country? In fact, shouldn't that be what we're asking women, gays, etc. in Gaza right now about being under the control of Hamas? Where do the women, gays, Christians, etc. in the Middle East go to not be oppressed or killed in an Islamic theocratic nation? Do they all come to a...secular nation, perhaps?

a reply to: Wolfff

Interesting question.

Well thought out.

*applaud*

originally posted by: CaptainY

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: CaptainY

The only people supporting hamas and palestinians are people who have no knowledge of history, white-supremacists, antisemites.

Almost the entire world is against the war and in favour of peace. Your arguments are bogus as always.

But we know who is in favour of this war. Classical warmongers, ultra right wing fascistoids, those who unequivocally support Israel, some Evangelical Christians, and the lunatics.

Looks like you signed in with a different name….

a reply to: NorthOS

Lots was going on.

Indeed. Lots of lots.

Israel claims investors made millions short selling before attack

It took hours for the stunned military to respond and send troops to counter-attack, a chaotic response that foreshadowed the government’s dysfunction.

link to Times of Israel article housing the above quote

They didn’t wait 7 hrs.

We're talking about the government, and the military brass.

The video you posted shows the heroic effort by two single tanks who acted on the ground independently.

Now you can imagine as soon as those tanks responded those in power were also alerted as to the tragedy unfolding.

a reply to: Wolfff

a corrupt, power hungry government that is secular and answers to international organizations/laws and doesn't wish to kill or convert me;

Apart from FDA approved toxins in our products, people who can't afford healthcare, bioengineered viruses and even more dangerous vaccines, elites openly advocating for a Klaus Schwab dystopia where you fit in or get kicked out of society if you skip the depopulation lottery, the Western world responsible for starting most wars and the US warmongering with China, Russia and just about whoever they please, I'm open for you to elaborate on that viewpoint.

As for conversion I take it wokeism and anti-whiteness hasn't grabbed your fancy just yet.

Fear not. According to those in positions of authority they are giddy to let you know that soon the white population will be a minority group due to intentionally disastrous border policies.

power hungry theocracy that does want to convert/kill me and does not answer to international organizations/laws.

Are we talking about Israel and the chosen people, because while they don't want you as a religious convert they certainly want to convert you to their point of view lest you be accuse dof hating every. single. Jew on the planet.

And yes they are not a member of the International Criminal Court nor have they disclosed their nuclear arsenal.

a reply to: DBCowboy

While you're busy applauding don't forget you called for the murder of all Palestinian people.

Women, gays, children, the unborn.. etc.

a reply to: Wolfff

in Gaza right now about being under the control of Hamas? Where do the women, gays, Christians, etc. in the Middle East go to not be oppressed or killed in an Islamic theocratic nation? Do they all come to a...secular nation, perhaps?

Perhaps that question can wait until Israel stops killing them indiscriminately?

As far as priorities go...

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: DBCowboy

While you're busy applauding don't forget you called for the murder of all Palestinian people.

Women, gays, children, the unborn.. etc.

Numerous times he is on the record for saying he has no problem with the complete destruction of Gaza. He has lost the moral argument long time ago.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: CaptainY

I'm in favor of peace, the palestinians started this war.

Your side started this war.

The side you are defending started this war.

All the palestinians need to do for peace is surrender, return all hostages, and recognize Israel as a sovereign nation.

Then you can have peace.

Hard to believe you're in favour of peace when you have called for the destruction of Gaza a number of times and you don't seem to care at all whether innocent people live or die.

You're mistaken as I don't have a side. You have a side and you have admitted you support unequivocally Israel. I am neither an Arab nor a Jew but when I see some great unfairness and injustice I will call it out. And the majority of the world thinks the sake way as I do on this matter.

We don't want a District 12 from the Hunger Games to exist in our world but it does unfortunately.

The Palestinians are under occupation and it's not the other way around. They have a right to exist and have an Independent Palestinian State. They have a legitimate right to resist by the way against their occupiers and oppressors.

a reply to: CaptainZ

I know it.

You know it.

Deep down I still believes he knows it too.

Leftists do the same thing when presented two sides.

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: DBCowboy

While you're busy applauding don't forget you called for the murder of all Palestinian people.

Women, gays, children, the unborn.. etc.

Spare me the violins.

You support palestinians. They want the destruction of the state of Israel.

Apart from FDA approved toxins in our products, people who can't afford healthcare, bioengineered viruses and even more dangerous vaccines, elites openly advocating for a Klaus Schwab dystopia where you fit in or get kicked out of society if you skip the depopulation lottery, the Western world responsible for starting most wars and the US warmongering with China, Russia and just about whoever they please, I'm open for you to elaborate on that viewpoint.

Okay.

I prefer a world in which the most powerful nations govern based on democratic principles and human rights rather than religion or a totalitarian regime. Thus, I prefer a constitutional republic that has both separation of church and state and international accountability. I believe that's better suited to our increasingly diverse, inter-connected globe than a theocracy based upon an oppressive conversion religion, which like any nation must navigate the same problems and global power forces you list above. Thus, I don't support theocratic governments, particularly those who insist on converting or killing me.

As for conversion I take it wokeism and anti-whiteness hasn't grabbed your fancy just yet. Fear not. According to those in positions of authority they are giddy to let you know that soon the white population will be a minority group due to intentionally disastrous border policies.

I'm not certain what your point here is in relation to theocracies versus more democratic forms of government. As for the white population being a minority, I'm less interested in racial demographics then whether or not a person wants to oppress or kill me because of things like, oh, religion.

Are we talking about Israel and the chosen people, because while they don't want you as a religious convert they certainly want to convert you to their point of view lest you be accuse dof hating every. single. Jew on the planet. And yes they are not a member of the International Criminal Court nor have they disclosed their nuclear arsenal.

If they don't wish to kill or convert me then they're out ahead of nations or groups that do. It's impossible to go forward if you wish to convert or kill me. You know...for me.

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: Wolfff

in Gaza right now about being under the control of Hamas? Where do the women, gays, Christians, etc. in the Middle East go to not be oppressed or killed in an Islamic theocratic nation? Do they all come to a...secular nation, perhaps?

Perhaps that question can wait until Israel stops killing them indiscriminately?

As far as priorities go...

If Israel stops fighting (maybe something like, say, a ceasefire that both sides uphold?), do you expect a less brutally theocratic organization or government to take over, i.e. one who does not advocate killing or converting non-Muslims, especially Jews?
As far as priorities go, that's a fundamental one, not an afterthought.