95% of World's Protests are Pro-Palestinian and Anti-Israel

originally posted by: Freeborn
But they have a right to defend themselves and in the face of groups like Hamas and their stated aims and their actions I fail to see how else they should have reacted to October 7th?

They could have engaged their brains instead of their trigger fingers. The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves too. What about the murders of Palestinians in the West Bank in the months preceding 7th October, why is Israel allowed to defend itself but Palestine is not?

I'm seeing six of one and half a dozen of the other but it is also blatantly transparent who the under-dog is.

a reply to: Freeborn

I can only state so many times that those responsible for Oct 7 needs to die.

The question then becomes, how would any of us respond to being oppressed in our own countries while the oppressors is also responsible for funding the terrorists in charge of our own country?

originally posted by: 19Bones79
Probably not as many as the Rothschilds funded both sides strategy since the Napoleonic wars.

That's another fallacy I am afraid.

I think I'll avoid any books you recommend (I don't think they're very good based on the "evidence" that you're presenting ).

a reply to: 19Bones79

A 2005 study by Nebel et al., based on Y chromosome polymorphic markers, showed that Ashkenazi Jews are more closely related to other Jewish and Middle Eastern groups than to the populations among whom they lived in Europe. However, 11.5% of male Ashkenazim were found to belong to Haplogroup R1a, the dominant Y chromosome haplogroup in Eastern Europeans, suggesting possible gene flow. Referencing The Thirteenth Tribe, the study's authors note that "Some authors argue that after the fall of their kingdom in the second half of the 10th century CE, the Khazar converts were absorbed by the emerging Ashkenazi Jewish community in Eastern Europe." They conclude: "However, if the R-M17 chromosomes in Ashkenazi Jews do indeed represent the vestiges of the mysterious Khazars then, according to our data, this contribution was limited to either a single founder or a few closely related men, and does not exceed ~ 12% of the present-day Ashkenazim".[26] Subsequent research showed that Ashkenazi varieties of R1a cannot have been Khazar in origin, with their Levite branch R1a-Y2619 within R1a-M582 being of Middle Eastern origin[27][28] and their non-Levite haplogroup R1a-M12402 having close Slavic matches but a distance from Turkic matches.[29]

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So there we have it. Bupkis!

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

No. It's not.


Run along then.

a reply to: 19Bones79

And how do you propose that Israel brings those involved in October 7th to justice?
Ask the Palestinian people nicely to hand them over?
Ask the Qatari government to deport Hamas leadership?
Maybe they should ask Iran et al if they wouldn't mind stop funding and arming Hamas?

I'm sure all would comply with Israel's requests.

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

No. It's not.


Run along then.

Oh bless yer cottons

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

They could have engaged their brains instead of their trigger fingers

And do what, exactly?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: 19Bones79

And how do you propose that Israel brings those involved in October 7th to justice?
Ask the Palestinian people nicely to hand them over?
Ask the Qatari government to deport Hamas leadership?
Maybe they should ask Iran et al if they wouldn't mind stop funding and arming Hamas?

I'm sure all would comply with Israel's requests.

How about if Iran stops funding HAMAS and the US/West stops funding Israel, supporting the Saudis and training Qataris? You know that there are multiple dynamics at play here. Let's not forget that Iran today is a reaction against it's former role as a vassal of US and British interests.

You surely can't be this naive.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

They could have engaged their brains instead of their trigger fingers

And do what, exactly?

You never heard of thinking before you act? Strategise?

They reacted and lashed out. I'm not dismissing the possibility that it was a "natural" and instinctive response but it wasn't a military response.

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

How about if Iran stops funding HAMAS.....

And how do we achieve that?
Ask them very nicely?
Sanctions?
Bomb the crap out of them?

Please, do tell.

.... and the US/West stops funding Israel, supporting the Saudis and training Qataris?

I've got no problem with that, especially the last two.

You know that there are multiple dynamics at play here.

Honest?

Let's not forget that Iran today is a reaction against it's former role as a vassal of US and British interests.

Convenient and inaccurate.

You surely can't be this naive.

Surely you can't be such a prick?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

They could have engaged their brains instead of their trigger fingers

And do what, exactly?

Sorry, I've asked that question many many times with no results except dodging the issue.
This conflict is in direct comparison with the Ukrainian conflict. Ukraine, fighting a vastly superior force but BSted up to believe they can win by fighting a proxy war (because that is what it is) for western countries. So Western soldiers are not dying for "the cause" only Ukranians dying and suffering.

Now Hamas/ Palestinians are fighting a power that vastly outweighs them, BSted up that they can win, fighting a proxy war for all the surrounding Muslim countries. Hamas and Palestinians suffering and dying but no soldiers from other countries helping them. I'll put it in black and white because you all seem to be skirting the main issue. It's about Muslim versus Jews, Palestine is just the starting patsy in this situation and if you don't believe that answer me one question:- out of all the Muslim countries surrounding this conflict how many have stepped forward to either help Hamas or to stop the conflict. And don't come with the BS about them brokering the cease fire because that ONLY helped Hamas.

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

You never heard of thinking before you act? Strategise?

Pretty short on detail.

Exactly what do you suggest they should have done?
Not just empty soundbites with no substance or merit at all.

a reply to: Terpene

Peachy now palestinians are the new nazis while calling jews the zionist.

The propaganda is just incredible, how do you think palestinians will embrace nazism now that they are waving swastikas in their protest.

Will they get more support from idots?

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

So what you're trying to convince me of is that it is ridiculous to think that a small minority of elites are in charge of a large majority?

Lol, that's exactly what this is all about.

a reply to: Freeborn

Wow.

I guess I'm sold on the whole bombing of women and children argument then.

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: orbhunter

Islamics are taking control of every city centre in the west, at least in Europe.

All because of people like George Soros. Let me guess, you think Soros is a Greek.


Who is behind 'wokeism'?

Who is funding all the anti-white movements?

Who is getting district attorneys of their choice into office?

Where did all the corrupt judges come from?

Who did Jeffrey Epstein work for?

Who were the 'dancing Israelis'?

When did Larry Silverstein insure the World Trade Centre buildings and against what specifically?

Who met in secrecy to create the federal reserve bank after their objectors died on the Titanic, a cruise they were supposed to go on but canceled at the last minute?

Why were there no red flares on board the Titanic to signal for help only white flares indicating everything is ok?

How did the billionaires not make it onto a single lifeboat if they were first class passengers were they murdered before or after the Titanic hit?

Which ship ignored the Titanic after disaster struck?



I don't get why normal narrative supporting people choose to hang around conspiracy websites but here we are.

hehe Bones totally love your answer, always have a lots of respect for you. Please.................When it comes to Soros I know for a fact his favourite food isn't Moussaka

a reply to: orbhunter

My apologies.

I guess I was already a bit defensive when I replied to you.

Just for your information George Soros was Hungarian but the Hungarians hate the man and have disowned him.

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: orbhunter

My apologies.

I guess I was already a bit defensive when I replied to you.

Hey Bones no apologies needed. Your posts are totally awesome and much needed here on ATS. I support Israel completely as a geographical location WTSHTF yet I've been on the same track seeing the 'reality' of the situation as you since around 1987 and know exactly where you are coming from Keep up the excellent research buddy