regardless of your politics, looking at this from the outside is scary

a reply to: network dude

The plan is to get rid of anyone in the government that's not a Trump loyalist and then consolidate as much power into the hands of the President as possible.

They don't want a President they want a dictator.

a reply to: BingoMcGoof

Thank you BingoMcGoof


PM for you

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

We don’t give GWB Jr. and Obama a pass for their mishandling of crisis. Trump isn’t above them, it’s not a liberal thing.

It’s a what happened happened thing. It wasn’t sunshine and rainbows under him. I don’t just say “Bush would have been great if not for 9/11”. He wanted and got the job and fumbled the ball. They all have. There wasn’t a good president in my lifetime.

Maybe never by your expectations, that isn't a dig either. I think many people think that way... Oh, the best Presidents were in the past. It is even worse today with 24/7 access to the president as we see they are actually human.

The thing with Trump was he was doing things right, Warp Speed with the vaccine for the high-risk was great, for example. We saw Trump push back against Fauci every day, and I mean every day... and the media and liberals attacked him on it like he was some crazy man saying the world was flat.

He then passed the reins to Biden and the liberals went ape#. The vaccine that Trump provided to the high-risk and old became mandated for all to the point you would lose your job if you didn't take it and kids could not go to school/college without it etc. while 80% of those taking it really didn't need it, especially the young. Then we saw a never-ending lockdown that cost many trillions and kept kids out of schools for a year too long that F'ed them up in so many ways.

Trump was ridiculed for suggesting other treatments, wanting to keep kids in schools, and only shutting down areas where the hospitals were overwhelmed and that really never happened, so we really NEVER needed a lockdown and should have figured it out within a month of it, and I bet Trump would have stopping it very quickly as the Dems would let him in the hopes he fails...never mind millions dead... just get Trump mentality, but at least we would be out of the lockdown.

Trump pushed back on 100% masking too which became a virtue signaling for the left.

If Trump won his second term I would bet things would not have gone as they did and we would have been in a much better shape than we are today with recession, wars etc... We also need to understand that Trump was attacked 24/7 and the whole goal of the liberal congress for 4 years was to deny him everything no matter what and to hell with the country in the process.

originally posted by: EndTime
a reply to: tanstaafl
How does the republican control of the house impact our current state of affairs?

Very little seeing as they don't control the Senate, and both houses are full of RINOs (the House less so than the Senate, but there are still a lot).

Thankfully we have a decent Speaker now, and it looks like some real actual investigations are soon to be ongoing.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

Doesn't need any telling, all you have to do is take an honest look at the last few years...

I'm not sure what bothers me more...what the left has been doing since about 2012 and now at crazy levels in the last 6 years or so, or people who see nothing wrong with the world today, but for some reason think Trump will destroy America.

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
I honestly can't wait for 2024, watching all the control freaks losing it will bring me great pleasure. That's assuming they don't try to pull off some outrageous false flag crap to prevent Trump regaining power. They constantly whine how Trump is a threat to democracy, while they do everything in their power to undermine the proper functioning of democracy. Their lies and propaganda are a threat to human life and even the entire human species. At this point nothing would devastate their agenda more than Trump regaining power, and I just know they're already cooking up some evil bs.

At least Trump will be entertaining and watching the left freakout will be delightful. Need to get a pallet of popcorn to get ready. These last 4 years have been like a dull ache that never goes away and no matter what you do it gets worse and worse. I can't even point to one thing that hasn't gone to crap including the minds of our youth.

They shouldn't even let Trump run unless he promises not to split the vote by running as an independent if he loses the nomination.

I admit some of the things he did as president were somewhat competent.

I'd support him joining the winning candidate's cabinet. Especially if it discouraged him from splitting the vote.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: network dude

The plan is to get rid of anyone in the government that's not a Trump loyalist and then consolidate as much power into the hands of the President as possible.

They don't want a President they want a dictator.

Didn't the Biden admin try to ban gas stoves, gas vehicles, mandate covid vaccines, influence social media to censor opposing views, etc?

Sounds rather dictatorial to me.

originally posted by: Solvedit2
I admit some of the things he did as president were somewhat competent.

I'd support him joining the winning candidate's cabinet. Especially if it discouraged him from splitting the vote.

The question I always put forth... What was it he didn't do right? We also need to put that in the context of the liberal congress with only one goal for four years to stop ANYTHING Trump wanted to do and damn the country in the process.

We can point to his mean tweets as bad and then we see he did a lot of good, or at least tried. I never seen a President go down his laundry list of campaign promises like he did. Most just chuck them in the trash after one day in the office.

originally posted by: Disgusted123
.... the clear and present danger Republicans are to democracy.

It's the left that runs by a mob rule mentality. Not the Republicans.

I could never understand how Trump was a threat to democracy when it's the Biden admin that has been challenged and lost a huge number of cases regarding our freedoms and liberties.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

Didn't the Biden admin try to ban gas stoves, gas vehicles, mandate covid vaccines, influence social media to censor opposing views, etc?

Sounds rather dictatorial to me.

Liberals are feak'in crAzY...

They invent things to suggest Trump would be a dictator and then act like it's all real.

This is dictator stuff...

1. Putting people in jail for Jan 6 for doing nothing but walking into the Capital for an hour gets then 10 years after being in confinement for well over a year in the process.

2. Creating a fake document to get a FISA search order to spy on the primary Republican candidate to take them out. We are talking from the DNC, FBI, Hillary, and the sitting President all involved. Makes Watergate look like child's play.

3. It was the Liberal-controlled FBI No.1 event to continue the false investigation for years with the leadership of the FBI in cahoots with the liberal leadership to take out the President.

4. Use Three letter agencies to attack Americans, such as weaponizing the IRS because they are Conservative.

5. Label concerned parents as terrorists because they disagree with their kids being taught critical race theory in school.

6. Forcing all to take the vaccine or else type event.

7. Lock down the country in a massive event for control.

8. Try and remove the top-runner candidate from state ballots

9. Try to keep the top-runner Republican candidate in the courts until they are broke or stop running.

10. Using the court system on other Conservatives to bankrupt them into submission.

11. Use the FBI as attack dogs against Republicans whenever the left wants it done.

12. Control social media and use Canx culture as a weapon against Conservatives.

13. Destroy the Constitution as much as possible.

14. Creating last-minute voting laws not voted on that highly favor the Democrats

15. Mass mailings and unsecured dropoff boxes pushed the Democrats to a huge advantage with vote harvesting.

Here are 15 in less than 5 mins... I bet I could come up with 100 more if I wanted to spend the time.

The bottom line is we have never been so close to a dictatorship than with the Democratic party trying to take it all over.

a reply to: Xtrozero

I can’t argue that the left often overreacts or manufactures stuff when going after Trump.

I also can’t argue that their policy is often if not mostly damaging to the country.

But I was speaking specifically on the economy in relation to Trump, which is my main criticism of him. I usually don’t get caught up in the silly debates about him.

Your list is a great example of why Americans need to be worried about our future. The straw that breaks the camels back for me is it’s your list or Trump that are my options. That’s the scariest thing to me.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

Your list is a great example of why Americans need to be worried about our future. The straw that breaks the camels back for me is it’s your list or Trump that are my options. That’s the scariest thing to me.

I don't get it though. Trump is not my first choice, but I will vote for him if he is picked. With that said we are talking about only 4 years with him and what he did in his first four years was good, life was good. We will not see the mean tweets this time and the media and liberals are somewhat collared now whereas before they were like a loose junkyard dog. Trump's narcissism pushes him to be successful and not damaging. No wars under him, peace in the ME not seen before, Russia would have never invaded with Trump in command, and departure of Afghanistan would have been 100 times better, which he started. He really cares about good jobs and holding China accountable while the left just screamed racism on him. We would have closed borders once again, and so on and so forth..what is the bad stuff there?

Now the other part you are concerned about and rightly so is not a 4 year event... We are talking about lifetime events of alt-liberal bureaucrats, Judges, and prosecutors who are not just there for 4 years, but 40 or more. Same with Congress that could be a lifetime. People pushing crazy woke agendas in schools from K to college for 40 years of their careers. Those are the real threats, not Trump for another measly 4 years, but a lifetime of people in control of our 3 letter agencies, education systems, Congress, the legal system etc.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Would Trump have sided with Israel in Netanyahu's war campaign?

a reply to: quintessentone

Considering her plans to deport every Palestinian in the country, what do you think?

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: Xtrozero

Would Trump have sided with Israel in Netanyahu's war campaign?

More importantly, does Trump side with America?

originally posted by: quintessentone

Would Trump have sided with Israel in Netanyahu's war campaign?

Yep...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: quintessentone

Would Trump have sided with Israel in Netanyahu's war campaign?

Yep...

Just a small correction.

Trump would never had given Iran 6 billion that facilitated the attack in the first place.