regardless of your politics, looking at this from the outside is scary

originally posted by: Solvedit2
The question of whether he respects the law is still being settled.

Sure, how much is a political ploy too? I can say the same thing with the New York Justice system as to how much do they really respect the law.

But I was talking about what he did as president...

a reply to: DBCowboy

Do you think an intelligence analyst with zero years of experience but supports Trump makes the country safer than an intelligence analyst with decades of experience but doesn't support Trump?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: DBCowboy

Do you think an intelligence analyst with zero years of experience but supports Trump makes the country safer than an intelligence analyst with decades of experience but doesn't support Trump?

Interesting point.

Will the Trump-hating analyst remove, delete or alter data to make Trump look bad?

a reply to: DBCowboy

Will the Trump supporting analyst ignore information that suggests Right Wing or Russian actors are about to commit an act that would bring harm to US citizens?

a reply to: DBCowboy

Will the Trump-hating analyst remove, delete or alter data to make Trump look bad?

you forgot fabricate

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: DBCowboy

Will the Trump supporting analyst ignore information that suggests Right Wing or Russian actors are about to commit an act that would bring harm to US citizens?

You do know the Russian hooker-pee thing was fake, right?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: DBCowboy

Do you think an intelligence analyst with zero years of experience but supports Trump makes the country safer than an intelligence analyst with decades of experience but doesn't support Trump?

Wait.
Are you talking about Alexander Vindman?

You seem to be supporting all the people that have been leading us into ww3 type of conflicts.
Intelligence in these cases are oxymorons.

originally posted by: Threadbarer

Do you think an intelligence analyst with zero years of experience but supports Trump makes the country safer than an intelligence analyst with decades of experience but doesn't support Trump?

Why does it need to be like that? What about an average career analyst who isn't politically motivated will make the country safer than one who manipulates their data to their political beliefs and who they want to support more?

Also, there are a ton of people in Government jobs that have been there for 40 years and suck at their job but can't be fired. I watched a guy who slept at his desk as his position was obsolete but had the years to protect him.

Talent means something too and talent will do that government job for X years and then take their talent into the private sector which is much harder on performance demands. The Government is "just good enough" and the private sector is "we need to be better than everyone else" so a lifelong Government intelligence analyst does not necessarily mean good work too, or better work than a young one.

a reply to: DBCowboy

You do know that Jesse Benton was convicted of funneling Russian money to Trump's campaign, right?

a reply to: Xtrozero

The average government worker will do their job regardless of whether or not they like the President.

That's not good enough for Trump. He wants those jobs filled with his loyalists so no one will question him.

originally posted by: Solvedit2

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Solvedit2
I admit some of the things he did as president were somewhat competent.

I'd support him joining the winning candidate's cabinet. Especially if it discouraged him from splitting the vote.

The question I always put forth... What was it he didn't do right?

The question of whether he respects the law is still being settled.

Didn't he once say that everyone dodges the tax laws and to be successful at it is something worthy of praise?

originally posted by: Threadbarer

The average government worker will do their job regardless of whether or not they like the President.

That's not good enough for Trump. He wants those jobs filled with his loyalists so no one will question him.

I once thought that and we learned that they can be politically motived in their jobs.

How can people say things like this after we watched what the FBI did for years? Do you remember all those messages from people very high up talking about how badly they wanted to take Trump down in a very far-left ideology mindset? Do you remember Obama using the IRS as a weapon against conservatives, do you remember Biden doing the same with the FBI adding parents to a terrorist list?

JESUS! People like you " what if" this stuff with Trump while the liberals do it as part of their reality. Do you think that Trump is just a little gun-shy when it comes to politically motivated government agencies and Judicial systems?

a reply to: Xtrozero

You mean the Trump who's DOJ used fabricated evidence in an effort to put anti-Trump protesters away for 70+ years starting on his very first day on the job?

Remind me again who appointed the current director of the FBI.

originally posted by: quintessentone

Didn't he once say that everyone dodges the tax laws and that to be successful at it is something worthy of praise?

He said everyone uses the tax codes to their advantage, and if you want that to change then change the tax codes.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: DBCowboy

You do know that Jesse Benton was convicted of funneling Russian money to Trump's campaign, right?

So Russian hooker-pee is real?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: quintessentone

Didn't he once say that everyone dodges the tax laws and that to be successful at it is something worthy of praise?

He said everyone uses the tax codes to their advantage, and if you want that to change then change the tax codes.

Well he isn't doing very well with his businesses and tax perks in New York State, now is he.

apnews.com...

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Xtrozero

The average government worker will do their job regardless of whether or not they like the President.

That's not good enough for Trump. He wants those jobs filled with his loyalists so no one will question him.

No, Trump wants to get the liberal minded useless and redundant unelected bureaucrats that cannot be fired in lifelong positions.
Republican or Democrat.

As for his administration shouldn't loyalty be a key component?

originally posted by: Threadbarer

You mean the Trump who's DOJ used fabricated evidence in an effort to put anti-Trump protesters away for 70+ years starting on his very first day on the job?

Need more detail on that, and are you saying my post is incorrect?

Remind me again who appointed the current director of the FBI.

Your point? 99% was already done by that time after Comey was fired. I'm not sure to what level even Comey was manipulated by political ideals other than it went on around him on many levels. I'm not sure who pushed for things like Hillary not to be under oath when she was questioned about her personal server fiasco.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia is real. Which is exactly what the Mueller investigation found and continues to be found to be true as time goes on. The most recent case being Rudy's sources in Ukraine turning out to be Russian spies.

Other than supplying aid to Ukraine, can you name one thing Trump did during his Presidency that had a direct, negative, impact on Russia?

a reply to: FarmerSimulation

Then why is the plan to replace those people with Trump loyalists if the positions are redundant?