regardless of your politics, looking at this from the outside is scary

originally posted by: quintessentone

Sure, but people that are being occupied and fight back against their occupiers are defined as resistance fighters.

10th time now I heard that one.

What is Israel occupying? They gave them Gaza in 2006 and removed all Jews from there...

a reply to: DBCowboy

So why would Putin hold off on invading Ukraine when Trump already told him he would face no repercussions for doing so?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: network dude

The plan is to get rid of anyone in the government that's not a Trump loyalist and then consolidate as much power into the hands of the President as possible.

They don't want a President they want a dictator.

Yea, I suppose leaving all the Obama crew in place and have them spend Trump's 2nd term undermining his agenda yet again.

As I said, he learned things the first time in. And others did as well. But Trump will win, and he will have a nice 4 year term, then hopefully, after a very successful 4 years, his VEEP will run and win and we can get 12 years of prosperity and protection. I know we won't be kowtowing to the crossdressers and being concerned with gay roads or whatever the current crisis is, but you will have plenty of things to complain about so there is that.

originally posted by: Threadbarer

There are thousands of Americans living in Ukraine and over a million Ukrainians living in the US. So we should provide Ukraine our continued support as well, right?

Yep

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: quintessentone

Sure, but people that are being occupied and fight back against their occupiers are defined as resistance fighters.

10th time now I heard that one.

What is Israel occupying? They gave them Gaza in 2006 and removed all Jews from there...

The talk of "Occupying" refers to Jews "Occupying" the state of Israel.

FYI

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: DBCowboy

So why would Putin hold off on invading Ukraine when Trump already told him he would face no repercussions for doing so?

We knew Putin didn't.

So there is that.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: quintessentone

Sure, but people that are being occupied and fight back against their occupiers are defined as resistance fighters.

10th time now I heard that one.

What is Israel occupying? They gave them Gaza in 2006 and removed all Jews from there...

The talk of "Occupying" refers to Jews "Occupying" the state of Israel.

FYI

And right there is the reason why the Israel/Palestinian/Zionist/Hamas conflict will rage on forever.

originally posted by: quintessentone
And right there is the reason why the Israel/Palestinian/Zionist/Hamas conflict will rage on forever.

No .. he's right. As long as Israel exists the conflict will continue because Hamas and the so called "Palestinians" refuse to acknowledge Israels right to exist, and they have vowed to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews. (pay attention - that's actual genocide). Hamas and the 'palestinians' refuse a two state solution. THAT is why the conflict will rage on forever.

a reply to: network dude

Federal employees do not work for one man. They work for the people of the US. The fact that you believe the federal workforce should pledge their loyalty to Trump and allow him to do anything he wants is disturbing.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
And right there is the reason why the Israel/Palestinian/Zionist/Hamas conflict will rage on forever.

No .. he's right. As long as Israel exists the conflict will continue because Hamas and the so called "Palestinians" refuse to acknowledge Israels right to exist, and they have vowed to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews. (pay attention - that's actual genocide). Hamas and the 'palestinians' refuse a two state solution. THAT is why the conflict will rage on forever.

Not true, they were almost in agreement previously but Israel won't budge on returning land they annexed since 1967 and that is the whole crux of the issue.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: quintessentone

Exactly, so he would not keep America's nose out of others' war or religious conflicts.

Why would America not support Israel? Millions of Jews live here and 100,000s of Americans live there. We have been connected since the 1940s too. We have always and will continue to support Israel. When you look at ME in general they are the only ones that are not full-blown radical in some way no matter how bad you think they are, all the other countries there are 100x worse.

In either case we would not see boots on ground or direct fighting,

Why not support peace instead?

Like we had in the 4 years of Trump? DERP!

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: quintessentone

Exactly, so he would not keep America's nose out of others' war or religious conflicts.

Why would America not support Israel? Millions of Jews live here and 100,000s of Americans live there. We have been connected since the 1940s too. We have always and will continue to support Israel. When you look at ME in general they are the only ones that are not full-blown radical in some way no matter how bad you think they are, all the other countries there are 100x worse.

In either case we would not see boots on ground or direct fighting,

Why not support peace instead?

Like we had in the 4 years of Trump? DERP!

DERP

If Trump won presidency he'd be embroiled in two wars right now. It's a timing thing.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: network dude

Federal employees do not work for one man. They work for the people of the US. The fact that you believe the federal workforce should pledge their loyalty to Trump and allow him to do anything he wants is disturbing.

I think an administration should have the people in place that will assist in fulfilling the promises made by that administration.

And to be totally honest, you seem to not be a thinker, and your opinion isn't one I put much stock in. Sorry to be so blunt, but you are more into antagonizing than discussion. I enjoy having someone who's usually wrong to banter with, but my ego is solid, so it's just not a 'must have' right now. As I have said before, when you argue facts, you are pretty smart, but when you use emotion, you are comical.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: quintessentone

Exactly, so he would not keep America's nose out of others' war or religious conflicts.

Why would America not support Israel? Millions of Jews live here and 100,000s of Americans live there. We have been connected since the 1940s too. We have always and will continue to support Israel. When you look at ME in general they are the only ones that are not full-blown radical in some way no matter how bad you think they are, all the other countries there are 100x worse.

In either case we would not see boots on ground or direct fighting,

Why not support peace instead?

Like we had in the 4 years of Trump? DERP!

DERP

If Trump won presidency he'd be embroiled in two wars right now. It's a timing thing.

no, Trump would have been too busy building a giant golden wall around the nation with his likeness but as a gargoyle about every 25 feet at the top, to ward off evil sprits. He would be spending all his time trying to re-write the constitution to make everyone else have term limits, but his reign be forever. He would also install a much better lock on the Oval Office bathroom, and install a diet coke machine so when he has to lock himself in there to perpetuate his reign over the plebes, he won't be bothered. He didn't do any of that. But he might next go around. And you can't do a damn thing about it, but cry.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

The talk of "Occupying" refers to Jews "Occupying" the state of Israel.

FYI

So when the Brits and French were creating all the countries around there Israel approved the Jewish Palestine/Muslim Palestine proposal and they did not. If they did they would have their own country today. Then after a few wars Egypt, Jordan and Israel came up with what we see today.

it is what it is...

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: quintessentone

Exactly, so he would not keep America's nose out of others' war or religious conflicts.

Why would America not support Israel? Millions of Jews live here and 100,000s of Americans live there. We have been connected since the 1940s too. We have always and will continue to support Israel. When you look at ME in general they are the only ones that are not full-blown radical in some way no matter how bad you think they are, all the other countries there are 100x worse.

In either case we would not see boots on ground or direct fighting,

Why not support peace instead?

Like what you should have done when we has a president that started no new wars.
Brought peace to Israel with all key allies, brought peaceful relations to Russia.
Called out China without escalation.
BEGAN to secure our border to avoid invasion and potential domestic incursions that disrupt peace and could lead to wars.



And all you got now in this entire thread is "we need peace", "besides Trump did it worse" (paraphrased).

We can only imagine where we would be now if Trump was empowered, not blocked, in continuing the peace in the Middle East.
Imagine if Israel had allies in New friends that wanted to further peace efforts instead of old enemies rekindling flames of war.

Imagine a president that started no new wars.
That would be Trump

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: quintessentone

Exactly, so he would not keep America's nose out of others' war or religious conflicts.

Why would America not support Israel? Millions of Jews live here and 100,000s of Americans live there. We have been connected since the 1940s too. We have always and will continue to support Israel. When you look at ME in general they are the only ones that are not full-blown radical in some way no matter how bad you think they are, all the other countries there are 100x worse.

In either case we would not see boots on ground or direct fighting,

Why not support peace instead?

Like we had in the 4 years of Trump? DERP!

DERP

If Trump won presidency he'd be embroiled in two wars right now. It's a timing thing.

no, Trump would have been too busy building a giant golden wall around the nation with his likeness but as a gargoyle about every 25 feet at the top, to ward off evil sprits. He would be spending all his time trying to re-write the constitution to make everyone else have term limits, but his reign be forever. He would also install a much better lock on the Oval Office bathroom, and install a diet coke machine so when he has to lock himself in there to perpetuate his reign over the plebes, he won't be bothered. He didn't do any of that. But he might next go around. And you can't do a damn thing about it, but cry.

You win. lol

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Solvedit2
I admit some of the things he did as president were somewhat competent.

I'd support him joining the winning candidate's cabinet. Especially if it discouraged him from splitting the vote.

The question I always put forth... What was it he didn't do right?

The question of whether he respects the law is still being settled.

a reply to: network dude

That's why the leadership positions in these agencies are generally Presidential appointments. They allow an administration to guide these agencies while still allowing the people that have years of experience to do their jobs.

Trump wants to get rid of thousands of employees who have countless years of experience to bring in people that will follow him unquestioningly. Not only is that a Hitler- or Stalin-esque move, it also degrades the security of the country by putting inexperienced people in critical roles.

Is that something you support?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
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Trump wants to get rid of thousands of employees who have countless years of experience . . . . .

Experience in what?

Making things more complicated?

Justifying raising taxes more?