Israeli Politician admits 12,000 Palestinians have died so far but... they're mostly terrorists!

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Tlycanthrope

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
a reply to: FlyersFan


You will never kill enough to bring peace.

The killings and the suffering need to end.

This isn't protecting Israel and bringing peace.

It's only creating more hatred and suffering.

You want desperately to "win". There's no winners - there can't be.

That’s not what ended WWII….

True.

But if the same thing happens now and I think you implied nukes then Muslim countries will act the same way against Israel. I am thinking of Pakistan and Turkey. They don't need nukes imo to create devastation in Israel if they decide to flatten Gaza which they have already done partially. Peace will be a much better option.

No. Uses bombing to destroy the means and will to fight. Finish up with ground invasion.

And kill so many civilians to the point Israel starts a conflict with the Muslim world. Can we not assume it has already happened and wil lead eventually to a wider conflict?

originally posted by: Insurrectile

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: Daughter2v2

No they don't. They barely had enough food at the start of the war!

We can surely use some trolls to style on them, but that LiarsFan is dense as a wall of bricks.

Where is this GHOST when you need to wipe the floor with our staff again?

The Israel government and probably Hamas too kept the Palestinian people just slightly above the starvation level for a long time.

Sure, Gaza was under an illegal blockade for what... 16 years?

And blocking the access to water, food and electricity on top of all that is a war-crime. Whole different ball-game, innit?

Analyzing the complexities legally is difficult and I'll leave it up to the experts, but so far the blockade may be bleeding into crimes against humanity.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Insurrectile

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: Daughter2v2

No they don't. They barely had enough food at the start of the war!

We can surely use some trolls to style on them, but that LiarsFan is dense as a wall of bricks.

Where is this GHOST when you need to wipe the floor with our staff again?

The Israel government and probably Hamas too kept the Palestinian people just slightly above the starvation level for a long time.

Sure, Gaza was under an illegal blockade for what... 16 years?

And blocking the access to water, food and electricity on top of all that is a war-crime. Whole different ball-game, innit?

Analyzing the complexities legally is difficult and I'll leave it up to the experts, but so far the blockade may be bleeding into crimes against humanity.

It's a combination of things.
The number of civilians killed in this conflict, the blockade you mentioned, forcing so many of them to leave their homes, just as few examples.

originally posted by: Daughter2v2

Israel turned off water and electricity - how are those weapons?

They are only letting in a small percentage of food - not enough to feed people.

How is food a weapon?

It's genocide - just because Israel says it isn't doesn't change the facts.

So people want to change what genocide means, OK don't really care and your use means nothing.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Hell, turn off wifi and people will scream, "Genocide"!

a reply to: DBCowboy

Reminiscent of the great toilet paper run of 2020...

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: DBCowboy

Reminiscent of the great toilet paper run of 2020...

Charmaggedon.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Daughter2v2

Israel turned off water and electricity - how are those weapons?

They are only letting in a small percentage of food - not enough to feed people.

How is food a weapon?

It's genocide - just because Israel says it isn't doesn't change the facts.

So people want to change what genocide means, OK don't really care and your use means nothing.

What ever it takes to fit the Narrative .

They changed the Definition of Vaccine so why not Genocide.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: DBCowboy

Reminiscent of the great toilet paper run of 2020...

Charmaggedon.

That scared the crap out of me.
I had no fears at all of the plandemic.
But then I learned to like my homemade bidets and I lost all fear.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

Hell, turn off wifi and people will scream, "Genocide"!

Here is the issue I have with liberals that water down words. They take a truly horrendous word in its pure form and say something like if you hurt a group's feelings it is genocide. It completely desensitizes people to the true evil it is.

I had the same argument for the word Pedophile. The left throws out things like oh that 35-year-old man dating a 17-year-old, he is such a pedophile! A true pedophile has an uncontrollable sexual attraction for kids under 12 i.e. not in puberty yet. What they are suggestings is a guy having sex with a 17-year-old is the same as some scum going after a 5-year-old.

Words have power and meaning, so stop F'ing with them...

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

It's genocide - just because Israel says it isn't doesn't change the facts.

Genocide means to wideout a group of people that could be ethnically, religious, etc based. WIPED OUT... What this means is either you kill them all, or you kill all the males and rape all the women to kill them ethically. You can also put 2 million into reeducation centers as China did in the Xinjiang internment camps, officially called vocational education and training centers to indoctrinate Uyghurs and other Muslims since 2017 as part of a "people's war on terror", a policy announced in 2014. The camps have been criticized by the governments of many countries and human rights organizations for alleged human rights abuses, including mistreatment, rape, torture, and death...

What do these countries do...nada

It's all good...where are the 100,000s protesting in the streets of London for the Uyghurs..The sad part is that most of these human rights warriors never heard of the Uyghurs, and don't give it a second thought.

Lame...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

It's genocide - just because Israel says it isn't doesn't change the facts.

Genocide means to wideout a group of people that could be ethnically, religious, etc based. WIPED OUT... What this means is either you kill them all, or you kill all the males and rape all the women to kill them ethically. You can also put 2 million into reeducation centers as China did in the Xinjiang internment camps, officially called vocational education and training centers to indoctrinate Uyghurs and other Muslims since 2017 as part of a "people's war on terror", a policy announced in 2014. The camps have been criticized by the governments of many countries and human rights organizations for alleged human rights abuses, including mistreatment, rape, torture, and death...

What do these countries do...nada

It's all good...where are the 100,000s protesting in the streets of London for the Uyghurs..The sad part is that most of these human rights warriors never heard of the Uyghurs, and don't give it a second thought.

Lame...

The legal definition is defined as follows

According to the Convention, genocide is a crime that can take place both in time of war as well as in time of peace. The definition contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part.

With emphasis on 'in whole or in part'.
You don't need to wipe out the entire group of people to commit genocide. As long as you kill and destroy a number of them (obviously compared to their population)

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Daughter2v2

Israel turned off water and electricity - how are those weapons?

They are only letting in a small percentage of food - not enough to feed people.

How is food a weapon?

It's genocide - just because Israel says it isn't doesn't change the facts.

So people want to change what genocide means, OK don't really care and your use means nothing.

What ever it takes to fit the Narrative .

They changed the Definition of Vaccine so why not Genocide.

See definition above.
I don't think anyone has changed to definition.

But they did try to change the definition of the vaccine, that's true.

originally posted by: Tlycanthrope

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Tlycanthrope

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
a reply to: FlyersFan


You will never kill enough to bring peace.

The killings and the suffering need to end.

This isn't protecting Israel and bringing peace.

It's only creating more hatred and suffering.

You want desperately to "win". There's no winners - there can't be.

That’s not what ended WWII….

True.

But if the same thing happens now and I think you implied nukes then Muslim countries will act the same way against Israel. I am thinking of Pakistan and Turkey. They don't need nukes imo to create devastation in Israel if they decide to flatten Gaza which they have already done partially. Peace will be a much better option.

No. Uses bombing to destroy the means and will to fight. Finish up with ground invasion.

And kill so many civilians to the point Israel starts a conflict with the Muslim world. Can we not assume it has already happened and wil lead eventually to a wider conflict?

Then the world needs to investigate and understand Hamas illegally doesn’t evacuate their civilians, Hamas cowers behind their civilians, uses neighborhoods as rocket bases, and stores their terror weapons in schools.

Funny the truth that is hidden.

Funny the Salah al-Din Street Oct 13th massacre dropped out of the news as more and more evidence points to a Hamas, or an other Gaza group, road side bombing. A real black flag event ignored by conspiracists on this site that call almost everything else a black flag. Especially after they tired to push Israeli fired on its own population at the Oct7th Hamas terror attack deliberately with helicopters. A Hamas sanctioned attack at civilians using murder, rape, torture, taking of hostages for human shields and bargaining chips.

a reply to: Lazy88

The world has been looking at this since the 7th of October and it's beyond any doubt that both sides have committed atrocities. Lies and propaganda are part of the any war but nobody can whitewash the crimes committed by either Hamad or Israel.

originally posted by: CaptainX
With emphasis on 'in whole or in part'.

No. With emphasis on INTENT.
Israel has no INTENT to wipe out the Palestinians.
Israel intends to wipe out Hamas.
It's Hamas that is getting the Palestinians killed. Not Israel.

UN.ORG

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

- Killing members of the group;
- Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
- Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
- Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: CaptainX
With emphasis on 'in whole or in part'.

No. With emphasis on INTENT.
Israel has no INTENT to wipe out the Palestinians.
Israel intends to wipe out Hamas.
It's Hamas that is getting the Palestinians killed. Not Israel.

UN.ORG

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

- Killing members of the group;
- Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
- Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
- Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

That's what you say when you try to whitewash the crimes committed by Israel and gaslight others for pointing out what Israel is doing. But that's you. It's a form of apology but the world knows by now what has happened.

originally posted by: CaptainX
That's what you say when you try to whitewash the crimes committed by Israel...

No, that's what you say when it's a FACT.
Emphasis on INTENT.
And Israels INTENT is not to genocide the Palestinians.
Israels INTENT is to kill and destroy HAMAS.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: CaptainX
That's what you say when you try to whitewash the crimes committed by Israel...

No, that's what you say when it's a FACT.
Emphasis on INTENT.
And Israels INTENT is not to genocide the Palestinians.
Israels INTENT is to kill and destroy HAMAS.

That's your own opinion only.
The intent is clear as seen by many around the world who are asking Netanyahou and his Government to be arrested for crimes against humanity and war crimes.

originally posted by: CaptainX
The intent is clear as seen by many around the world who are asking Netanyahou and his Government to be arrested for crimes against humanity and war crimes.

That's their anti-semitic opinion only.