Israeli Politician admits 12,000 Palestinians have died so far but... they're mostly terrorists!

originally posted by: quintessentone
Read Article II - ...in whole or in PART.

Read Article II - INTENT.

Obviously there is no intent to genocide Palestinians.
If there was, there would be a hell of a lot more of them dead.
And there would be no aid being allowed in.
And there would be no warnings about evacuations.
ETC

a reply to: quintessentone


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I could post video after video of Palestinians celebrating where there is plenty of power and anger within the crowds. As for the trauma, they made their bed as the saying goes.

a reply to: FlyersFan

From the description:

"Israeli's burn picture of a Palestinian baby who , along with his parents, died in an Israeli terrorist attack on their home.
Itamar Ben Gvir and Bentzi Gopstein can be seen in the event, while the wedding-goers can be seen waiving rifles, guns and firebombs. Ben Gvir is the lawyer for the suspects in the Duma attack and Gopstien leads the firebrand anti-Arab group Lehava"

There can be no doubt, there are calls for the genocide against the Palesetinians.

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
There can be no doubt, there are calls for the genocide against the Palesetinians.

Already said .. so what? It's not happening. And as I said ... The Palestinians and Hamas call for the genocide of Jews and destruction of Israel. OF COURSE people in Israel are going to want to destroy the Palestinians and Hamas before the Palestinians and Hamas can destroy the people of Israel. SELF PRESERVATION.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Israel knows that have to do some PR plus there is pressure from the US.

Already over half the US wants a cease fire. They can't do much more and keep the US money.

That's why they are going for the slow death from lack of food, water, and housing.

It's doesn't get the attention immediate bombs do.

a reply to: Daughter2v2
Personal opinion and speculation.

By the UN definition in Article II ... Israel isn't committing genocide.
By the UN definition in Article II ... Hamas and the Palestinians ARE trying to commit genocide.
Why won't you acknowledge that?

originally posted by: FlyersFan

OF COURSE people in Israel are going to want to destroy the Palestinians and Hamas before the Palestinians and Hamas can destroy the people of Israel. SELF PRESERVATION.

Re-read what you wrote for a second. Take a deep breath.

Isn't possible the majority of Palestinians feel the same way.

Who started it? Does it matter. It needs to end for the sake of both sides.

Everyone needs to stop justifying killings.

They killings need to stop - that includes your side.

a reply to: Daughter2v2


'US public support for Israel drops; majority backs a ceasefire, Reuters/Ipsos shows'

The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online and nationwide, gathering responses from 1,006 U.S. adults. It has a credibility interval, a margin of precision, of about four percentage points.

Well thats representive of the whole of the US

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
Read Article II - ...in whole or in PART.

Read Article II - INTENT.

Obviously there is no intent to genocide Palestinians.
If there was, there would be a hell of a lot more of them dead.
And there would be no aid being allowed in.
And there would be no warnings about evacuations.
ETC

The intent came from the mouths of Netanyahu and his government ministers.

originally posted by: quintessentone
The intent came from the mouths of Netanyahu and his government ministers.

There is no intent. Bibi can quote scripture fights with Hamas all he wants.
That doesn't equal genocide of Palestinians.
And the one minor official who even quipped about nuking Gaza got canned.

ACTUAL GENOCIDE -
Hamas and the Palestinians calling for the destruction of Israel and the death of all Jews.
Hamas and the Palestinians actually attempting to do so and saying they won't stop.

Self defense by attacking Hamas is not genocide.
Human shields dying because Hamas put them in harms way is not genocide.
2.3 million people with only a few thousand dead - due to Hamas - is not genocide.

originally posted by: Tagz
a reply to: quintessentone


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I could post video after video of Palestinians celebrating where there is plenty of power and anger within the crowds. As for the trauma, they made their bed as the saying goes.

It does not matter at this point in time, the intent and withholding of water, food, evacuations where the people had nowhere to go with the necessities for life (no food, no water), and indiscriminate bombing still took place...in whole or in part as per Article II.

originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: Daughter2v2

No they don't. They barely had enough food at the start of the war!

We can surely use some trolls to style on them, but that LiarsFan is dense as a wall of bricks.

Where is this GHOST when you need to wipe the floor with our staff again?

The Israel government and probably Hamas too kept the Palestinian people just slightly above the starvation level for a long time.

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You will never kill enough to bring peace.

The killings and the suffering need to end.

This isn't protecting Israel and bringing peace.

It's only creating more hatred and suffering.

You want desperately to "win". There's no winners - there can't be.

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
a reply to: FlyersFan


You will never kill enough to bring peace.

The killings and the suffering need to end.

This isn't protecting Israel and bringing peace.

It's only creating more hatred and suffering.

You want desperately to "win". There's no winners - there can't be.

Agreed

The killings and atrocities will lead nowhere but to more killings and atrocities and in the end the entire Muslim world will turn against Israel. Netanyahou's Government is trying hard to have a war with the entire Muslim world.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
The intent came from the mouths of Netanyahu and his government ministers.

There is no intent. Bibi can quote scripture fights with Hamas all he wants.
That doesn't equal genocide of Palestinians.
And the one minor official who even quipped about nuking Gaza got canned.

ACTUAL GENOCIDE -
Hamas and the Palestinians calling for the destruction of Israel and the death of all Jews.
Hamas and the Palestinians actually attempting to do so and saying they won't stop.

Self defense by attacking Hamas is not genocide.
Human shields dying because Hamas put them in harms way is not genocide.
2.3 million people with only a few thousand dead - due to Hamas - is not genocide.

Intent from the Israeli leaders and follow through.

South African government is the first to make the call for the ICC to issue an arrest warrant for Netanyahu because there are grounds for arrest.

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
a reply to: FlyersFan


You will never kill enough to bring peace.

The killings and the suffering need to end.

This isn't protecting Israel and bringing peace.

It's only creating more hatred and suffering.

You want desperately to "win". There's no winners - there can't be.

That’s not what ended WWII….

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
a reply to: FlyersFan


You will never kill enough to bring peace.

The killings and the suffering need to end.

This isn't protecting Israel and bringing peace.

It's only creating more hatred and suffering.

You want desperately to "win". There's no winners - there can't be.

That’s not what ended WWII….

True.

But if the same thing happens now and I think you implied nukes then Muslim countries will act the same way against Israel. I am thinking of Pakistan and Turkey. They don't need nukes imo to create devastation in Israel if they decide to flatten Gaza which they have already done partially. Peace will be a much better option.

originally posted by: Tlycanthrope

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
a reply to: FlyersFan


You will never kill enough to bring peace.

The killings and the suffering need to end.

This isn't protecting Israel and bringing peace.

It's only creating more hatred and suffering.

You want desperately to "win". There's no winners - there can't be.

That’s not what ended WWII….

True.

But if the same thing happens now and I think you implied nukes then Muslim countries will act the same way against Israel. I am thinking of Pakistan and Turkey. They don't need nukes imo to create devastation in Israel if they decide to flatten Gaza which they have already done partially. Peace will be a much better option.

No. Uses bombing to destroy the means and will to fight. Finish up with ground invasion.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: Daughter2v2

No they don't. They barely had enough food at the start of the war!

We can surely use some trolls to style on them, but that LiarsFan is dense as a wall of bricks.

Where is this GHOST when you need to wipe the floor with our staff again?

The Israel government and probably Hamas too kept the Palestinian people just slightly above the starvation level for a long time.

Sure, Gaza was under an illegal blockade for what... 16 years?

And blocking the access to water, food and electricity on top of all that is a war-crime. Whole different ball-game, innit?