Israeli Politician admits 12,000 Palestinians have died so far but... they're mostly terrorists!

The majority of the Palestinian deaths are terrorists, that’s a good thing not a bad thing.

It proves Israel is making good on their mission to eradicate Hamas and it shows that they are taking measures to limit innocent civilian deaths in the process.
The only people pushing back against these good things are the terrorist apologists.

If you’re one of them, you are a problem.
Put your money where your mouth is and go to Gaza.
Pick up a weapon and fight for your ideals.
Go hide behind the civilians you say you care about.
They need more apologists like you for the evil cause.
The terrorists are replenishing their ranks and rearming during the ceasefire.
As soon as they run out of hostages the strikes will go on.
Hurry now, run along little terror roach.
The big Israeli boots will stomp you out of your misery in due time.

originally posted by: Vermilion

The majority of the Palestinian deaths are terrorists, that’s a good thing not a bad thing.

It proves Israel is making good on their mission to eradicate Hamas and it shows that they are taking measures to limit innocent civilian deaths in the process.
The only people pushing back against these good things are the terrorist apologists.

If you’re one of them, you are a problem.
Put your money where your mouth is and go to Gaza.
Pick up a weapon and fight for your ideals.
Go hide behind the civilians you say you care about.
They need more apologists like you for the evil cause.
The terrorists are replenishing their ranks and rearming during the ceasefire.
As soon as they run out of hostages the strikes will go on.
Hurry now, run along little terror roach.
The big Israeli boots will stomp you out of your misery in due time.

There is no evidence whatsoever that the majority of the Palestinian deaths are terrorists. Not even the Israelis have made such claims with the exception of this politician and a some others who include women and children in the 'collective' of terrorists....

The actions by Israel have proven exactly the opposite i.e that they don't really care about innocent civilians and because actions speak much louder than words the world has witnessed the massacre of thousands of innocent civilians in Gaza and Israel has been isolated for the first time (historically speaking) from the rest of the world.

amp.theguardian.com...

According to the independent Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor, which is chaired by US emeritus law professor and former UN special rapporteur on Palestine, Richard Falk, the civilian death toll as of 20 November is 16,413, with nearly 34,000 injured. This would mean one in every 142 Palestinian civilians killed in a month and a half.

According to the estimations over 16,000 civilians have been killed which equates to 1 in 142 Palestinians in Gaza. And many more injured. It shows that your argument has no basis at all.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: CP135

Collective punishment is a war crime by the way.

Even if this was true.....so what? What is anyone going to do...nothing... If the world is willing to do nothing to the other 100 much worse events why is this one special?

Collective punishment is indeed a war crime. No matter what others think on this site or elsewhere online. This one is the most recent event (recent conflict) and because is one of the most brutal ones it gets a lot of attention. And no, the world is willing to intervene when there are similar events.

originally posted by: Vermilion

The majority of the Palestinian deaths are terrorists, that’s a good thing not a bad thing.

It proves Israel is making good on their mission to eradicate Hamas and it shows that they are taking measures to limit innocent civilian deaths in the process.
The only people pushing back against these good things are the terrorist apologists.

If you’re one of them, you are a problem.
Put your money where your mouth is and go to Gaza.
Pick up a weapon and fight for your ideals.
Go hide behind the civilians you say you care about.
They need more apologists like you for the evil cause.
The terrorists are replenishing their ranks and rearming during the ceasefire.
As soon as they run out of hostages the strikes will go on.
Hurry now, run along little terror roach.
The big Israeli boots will stomp you out of your misery in due time.

Even the New York Times are willing to bring this issue to the attention of their readers

Gaza Civilians, Under Israeli Barrage, Are Being Killed at Historic Pace

Even a conservative assessment of the reported Gaza casualty figures shows that the rate of death during Israel’s assault has few precedents in this century, experts say

www.nytimes.com...#:~:text=Gaza%20Civilians%2C%20Under%20Israeli%20Barrage%2C%20Are%20Bei ng%20Killed%20at%20Historic,in%20this%20century%2C%20experts%20say.

It shows precisely that civilians are the ones that killed in their thousands and at rate that has never seen before. It goes against your unsubstantiated argument that the majority of people killed in Gaza are civilians. We all know nobody accepts it unless you are detached from reality.

Israel has cast the deaths of civilians in the Gaza Strip as a regrettable but unavoidable part of modern conflict, pointing to the heavy human toll from military campaigns the United States itself once waged in Iraq and Syria

But a review of past conflicts and interviews with casualty and weapons experts suggest that Israel’s assault is different.

While wartime death tolls will never be exact, experts say that even a conservative reading of the casualty figures reported from Gaza shows that the pace of death during Israel’s campaign has few precedents in this century.

People are being killed in Gaza more quickly than Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan

People are being killed in Gaza more quickly, they say, than in even the deadliest moments of US-led attacks in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan, which were themselves widely criticized by human rights groups.

This article clearly shows how detached your argument is from reality.

originally posted by: Vermilion

The majority of the Palestinian deaths are terrorists, that’s a good thing not a bad thing.

It proves Israel is making good on their mission to eradicate Hamas and it shows that they are taking measures to limit innocent civilian deaths in the process.
The only people pushing back against these good things are the terrorist apologists.

If you’re one of them, you are a problem.
Put your money where your mouth is and go to Gaza.
Pick up a weapon and fight for your ideals.
Go hide behind the civilians you say you care about.
They need more apologists like you for the evil cause.
The terrorists are replenishing their ranks and rearming during the ceasefire.
As soon as they run out of hostages the strikes will go on.
Hurry now, run along little terror roach.
The big Israeli boots will stomp you out of your misery in due time.

I find it amusing you speak about apologists when you are the one who has been trying to defend and justify the mass killings of innocent civilians in Gaza and trying to apologise for the war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by Israel.

www.reuters.com...

Even Blinken has admitted far too many Palestinians have died in this conflict and most of the civilians. Again this goes against your argument that you should have used as it has no basis in anything unless you regard women and children as 'terrorists'.


www.pbs.org...

Israel pounded targets in the crowded southern half of the Gaza Strip on Saturday and ordered more neighborhoods designated for attack to evacuate, driving up the death toll even as the United States and others urged it to do more to protect Gaza civilians a day after a truce collapsed.

At least 200 Palestinians have been killed since the fighting resumed Friday morning following the weeklong truce with the territory's ruling militant group Hamas, according to the Health Ministry in Gaza. Several homes were hit across Gaza on Saturday, with multiple casualties reported in a strike that flattened a multi-story building on the outskirts of Gaza City.

originally posted by: CaptainY
Collective punishment is indeed a war crime. No matter what others think on this site or elsewhere online. This one is the most recent event (recent conflict) and because is one of the most brutal ones it gets a lot of attention. And no, the world is willing to intervene when there are similar events.

It first BS to the whole thing about the world intervening... Second, it is BS to even suggest war crimes as nothing is ever pushed past complaining about it. Third, it is BS to just label what you feel towards Israel to justify your point. Explain to me what is collective punishment and how it fits here. You can cheery pick whoever supports your ideas, but in the end, Israel is focused on Hamas in a population that supports them, so there will be high-level collateral damage as people do not want to move to safe areas and just stay in the same spots as the terrorist.

Israel either goes after Hamas or not, that is the only two choices... There is no third one of attacking when there is only Hasmas in the location.

a reply to: CaptainY

I support Israel’s right to defend themselves and wipe out Hamas.

What’s the difference between Israel defending themselves and what the allies did in Dresden or Hamburg?

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: CaptainY

I support Israel’s right to defend themselves and wipe out Hamas.

What’s the difference between Israel defending themselves and what the allies did in Dresden or Hamburg?

You mean Israel going in an offensive and killing thousands of innocent civilians in the name of self defense. That's very different to the right Israel has to defend itself.

originally posted by: CaptainY

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: CaptainY

I support Israel’s right to defend themselves and wipe out Hamas.

What’s the difference between Israel defending themselves and what the allies did in Dresden or Hamburg?

You mean Israel going in an offensive and killing thousands of innocent civilians in the name of self defense. That's very different to the right Israel has to defend itself.

What’s the difference between Israel defending themselves and what the allies did in Dresden or Hamburg?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: CaptainY
Collective punishment is indeed a war crime. No matter what others think on this site or elsewhere online. This one is the most recent event (recent conflict) and because is one of the most brutal ones it gets a lot of attention. And no, the world is willing to intervene when there are similar events.

It first BS to the whole thing about the world intervening... Second, it is BS to even suggest war crimes as nothing is ever pushed past complaining about it. Third, it is BS to just label what you feel towards Israel to justify your point. Explain to me what is collective punishment and how it fits here. You can cheery pick whoever supports your ideas, but in the end, Israel is focused on Hamas in a population that supports them, so there will be high-level collateral damage as people do not want to move to safe areas and just stay in the same spots as the terrorist.

Israel either goes after Hamas or not, that is the only two choices... There is no third one of attacking when there is only Hasmas in the location.

You may want to see the link I ve posted above from the New York Times

Gaza Civilians, Under Israeli Barrage, Are Being Killed at Historic Pace

Even a conservative assessment of the reported Gaza casualty figures shows that the rate of death during Israel’s assault has few precedents in this century, experts say

Collective punishment is a war crime and there is no way out if it s it has happened and it keeps happening. To argue the term is vague is absurd at this point.

There is no military solution to the ongoing conflict in Gaza and that's more than obvious. There is only political solution as expressed numerous times by many US Officials and Politicians around the World who have condemned Israel for committing war crimes and crimes against humanity.

On the way to eliminate Hamas and that's far from being a given it has united the Muslim world and has created even more radicalised young people all over the middle east.

More and more are asking for sanctions against Israel and that seems to have lost support after they have been involved in these atrocities.


www.africanews.com...

The South African government on Monday called on the International Criminal Court to issue an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by mid-December.

Minister in the Presidency Khumbudzo Ntshavheni said it would signal a "total failure" of global governance if the ICC does not do so.

"The world cannot simply stand by and watch. The global community needs to rise to stop this genocide now," said Ntshavheni.

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: CaptainY

I support Israel’s right to defend themselves and wipe out Hamas.

What’s the difference between Israel defending themselves and what the allies did in Dresden or Hamburg?

You seem to be making one bogus argument after the other. Above you claimed that most Palestinians who have been killed are terrorists.... According to all evidence most killed are civilians. And that's not an act of self defense but revenge. You have been arguing for the destruction of Gaza just like a few others here and you have lost the moral argument and the arguments, generally speaking.

originally posted by: CaptainY

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: CaptainY

I support Israel’s right to defend themselves and wipe out Hamas.

What’s the difference between Israel defending themselves and what the allies did in Dresden or Hamburg?

You seem to be making one bogus argument after the other. Above you claimed that most Palestinians who have been killed are terrorists.... According to all evidence most killed are civilians. And that's not an act of self defense but revenge. You have been arguing for the destruction of Gaza just like a few others here and you have lost the moral argument and the arguments, generally speaking.

Answer the simple question….

What’s the difference between Israel defending themselves and what the allies did in Dresden or Hamburg?

originally posted by: CaptainY

There is only political solution

What’s the solution offered by Gaza that isn’t the theocracy of Islam?

originally posted by: CaptainY

Even a conservative assessment of the reported Gaza casualty figures shows that the rate of death during Israel’s assault has few precedents in this century, experts say

And here we are with estimates, so 400k to 500k civilians killed by Saudi is not as bad?

There is no military solution to the ongoing conflict in Gaza and that's more than obvious. There is only political solution as expressed numerous times by many US Officials and Politicians around the World who have condemned Israel for committing war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Politics didn't work even from the beginning when they turned down the two-state system. Also, who are you to say no military solution as what you think doesn't matter in all this.

originally posted by: CaptainY

"The world cannot simply stand by and watch. The global community needs to rise to stop this genocide now," said Ntshavheni.

Wait, who are you? I can tell the style by how you write. You don't need multiple accounts. To make this one today then post 33 times in 6 hours with all anti-Israel, what is your goal here? Are you trying to flood ATS with your anti-Israel narratives? Bringing up the South Africa point again and again has only been one person here and now you...lol just stop it.

a reply to: Xtrozero

You catch on quick!

It's blatant, mate!

a reply to: Xtrozero

It keeps getting banned then it returns.

Speaking of South Africa…

t.me...

a reply to: NorthOS

South Africa and Zimbabwe have their own racist and corruption problems and are in no place to lecture us on anything.

originally posted by: NorthOS

It keeps getting banned then it returns.

Speaking of South Africa…

t.me...

Good point, but I was also thinking of what a hell hole SA is today. It's basically back to warlords controlling areas as people go without food since all the farms were chopped up into little plots and handed out. All the workers lost their jobs and no one knew how to farm anymore outside of personal little plots. So, one could say SA is one of the last countries to throw stones at another.

Rank Most Dangerous Countries Law and Order Index Score
1 Afghanistan
2 Gabon
3 Venezuela
4 Liberia
5 South Africa

a reply to: Xtrozero

I agree 100%.

Not just the farms getting chopped up but the farmers also.

Looking at those who are screaming the loudest about Israel defending themselves constantly points to hypocrisy and selective outrage.