Jewish Holocaust survivor: Israel is turning Gaza into a 'death camp'

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Lazy88

Hamas ain't saying.

So, we all have to go with those who claim they are all innocents, because..."Israel! BAAAAD"!?!!

And so on.

Hamas, bad. But Israel created it with her own actions, they never shown love and compassion to make lives better for the Palestinians so they could grow together as a people. So now Israel is even more bad then HAMAS! They don't come close!
No they steal more land, kill when they like, put them in the biggest prison bar none, destroy any economical progress they made, yea you get things like HAMAS as result!, Good job... But the Jews are the ppl of god so whatever they do is just like saint like.
Also GAZA got lots of oil and gas, not a bad deal, destroy/bomb whole Gaza, and take the left overs!
Almost everything is flatted there, except a few hospitals, but that will be solved soon with many nice Israelian homes and some nice big gas & oil industry after, living the better life. (they hope but I guess the end result would be something way worse, not nice getting the whole ARAB world united against you.... But don't worry Israel got NUKES.

a reply to: quintessentone

"As for those Hamas rockets, you ain't seen anything yet."

Breathtaking.

Your true colours are showing.

Can't wait for more October the 7ths, then?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

You continue to parrot Hamas propaganda if you like.

Me? "Deny Ignorance".

Especially when it is willful.

I am not parroting propaganda, I am showing what is propaganda and for you to dismiss the other side of this shows you are closed to the truth.

You don't deny ignorance it's obvious to many here.

Willful as in standing up for the truth? You bet I'm willful.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

"As for those Hamas rockets, you ain't seen anything yet."

Breathtaking.

Your true colours are showing.

Can't wait for more October the 7ths, then?

I believe we have information trolls among us - Some of these comments could get some posters investigated for making threats 'you ain't seen anything yet" You can't say that unless you know something . Knock Knock

a reply to: quintessentone

You seem to want more Hamas rockets, though?

a reply to: Leviathan4

Well, technically China has the largest concentration camps in the world with many more millions of Uighurs in them. But the world doesn't talk about that much.

But otherwise I agree with her, Gaza is pretty much a death camp at the moment. A concentration camp.

And we all know someone who is supporting it and finding excuses for it. Whether for a political or a religious reason, it's equally wrong to support these atrocities and make justifications. It's inhumane.

originally posted by: Mahogani
a reply to: Leviathan4

Well, technically China has the largest concentration camps in the world with many more millions of Uighurs in them. But the world doesn't talk about that much.

But otherwise I agree with her, Gaza is pretty much a death camp at the moment. A concentration camp.

And we all know someone who is supporting it and finding excuses for it. Whether for a political or a religious reason, it's equally wrong to support these atrocities and make justifications. It's inhumane.

Yes, we all know Gaza is an open air concentration camp and as Mrs Weiss said, a death camp.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

"As for those Hamas rockets, you ain't seen anything yet."

Breathtaking.

Your true colours are showing.

Can't wait for more October the 7ths, then?

You can't be bothered for me to explain that comment, that speaks volumes about you. You just keep your narrative and move on to the echochamber where you belong.

My true colors are showing to everyone who is anti-war and shows compassion to those murdered Palestinians and wants to seek out the truth, but many here don't recognize what that entails because they are subhuman, right?

Did you know that Israeli helicopters were firing at their own people on that day? Shoot at everything was the order.

And now Biden says to Netanyahu, "End this fast". Imagine being able to end a war whenever you want, not. Because this is not a war this is a campaign of land stealing, ethnic cleansing and genocide, why? because they are human animals so we have our imperialist rights.

Anyway I have stuff to do and I want to take a break from some of the vile sentiments here, so I will not be around for a while.

Enjoy your echochambers while you can because very soon this conflict will escalate to the point of no return.

originally posted by: Plugit

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Lazy88

Hamas ain't saying.

So, we all have to go with those who claim they are all innocents, because..."Israel! BAAAAD"!?!!

And so on.

Hamas, bad. But Israel created it with her own actions, they never shown love and compassion to make lives better for the Palestinians so they could grow together as a people. So now Israel is even more bad then HAMAS! They don't come close!
No they steal more land, kill when they like, put them in the biggest prison bar none, destroy any economical progress they made, yea you get things like HAMAS as result!, Good job... But the Jews are the ppl of god so whatever they do is just like saint like.
Also GAZA got lots of oil and gas, not a bad deal, destroy/bomb whole Gaza, and take the left overs!
Almost everything is flatted there, except a few hospitals, but that will be solved soon with many nice Israelian homes and some nice big gas & oil industry after, living the better life. (they hope but I guess the end result would be something way worse, not nice getting the whole ARAB world united against you.... But don't worry Israel got NUKES.

Israel has committed a range of war crimes against civilians and that's something they can't hide. No matter how many excuses and justifications they use after 5 weeks into this conflict the whole world has seen what is going on and that's why we have a wide condemnation of the mass killings and everything else that has happened.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

You seem to want more Hamas rockets, though?

Still off topic

a reply to: quintessentone

I will remind you that you said this:

"As for those Hamas rockets, you ain't seen anything yet."

Doesn't sound very "anti-war" or compassionate does it?

If that comment is not glorifying and supporting Hamas terrorists, I don't know what is.


Pretty "vile", no?

Off you run.

a reply to: Leviathan4

Nope.

Was the poster I was replying to off topic?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

But, there is a "side" that says Israel is conducting a war not war crimes?

Palestine is "governed" by Hamas which is widely regarded by the West, including the UK, as a proscribed terrorist organisation.

As for your shouting about alleged Israeli "war crimes", according to your good self, surely we must await an independent investigation, by independent investigators, who need to be on the ground?

Ah, no. That standard you only apply to war crimes committed by Hamas. I forgot.

Israel is conducting war crimes and crimes against humanity.

I don't what side says they are conducting a war. It's not coming from Mrs Weiss by the way.

Israel is attacking and killing people at a rate of 250 civilians per day and it's unknown whether they get anyone from Hamas. So it's clear what is going on at least to those who don't unequivocally support Israel.

When you kill 250 civilians per day that's not collateral damage as someone said earlier but mass murder.

There is plenty of evidence there to make a safe argument

a reply to: Leviathan4

Not according to the standard of investigation you demand of others.

"Please answer using one of the following:

1. None. They were all innocent civilians.
2. Maybe a few.
3. Quite a substantial number.
4. Don't care. I will just carry on blaming Israel for
everything as usual."


So, your answer is.....?

edit on 15-11-2023 by Oldcarpy2 because: (no

a reply to: Leviathan4

Weiss is based on Canada. According to you she is a "Socialist Activist".

So, not independent, or on the ground?

originally posted by: Leviathan4
www.greenleft.org.au...

Suzanne Weiss, a Jewish Holocaust survivor, socialist activist and author of Holocaust to Resistance, gave this speech at a 25,000-strong November 4 Palestine solidarity rally in Toronto, Canada, where she called for an immediate ceasefire and for an end to the genocide in Gaza.

“Gas chambers and the hundreds of concentration camps which starved, tortured, and eliminated Jews by disease, is repeated today in the Gaza concentration camp — the largest concentration camp in the world

“Death chambers and ovens have been replaced in Gaza with tons of bombs that destroys all in their path. Gaza has become a death camp,” Weiss said, condemning Zionism as racist colonialism.

“Conflating Zionism and Judaism is an unforgiveable crime to the Jewish people, to the Palestinians and to humanity,” Weiss added.

I cannot agree more with Mrs Weiss and it's more than obvious that Gaza is not just an open air concentration camp but has now become a death camp after the massacre of tens of thousands of innocent civilians, most of whom are women and children, and who have died after the continuous bombardment by the Israeli Army that has been ordered by the Israeli Government.

The website of Suzanne Weiss can be found here:

suzanneberlinerweiss.com...

The choice is between 10,000 innocent civilians or millions of them. If someone has to die, it might as well be the camp with at least a few bad eggs in it, as opposed to protecting those bad eggs by proxy. Otherwise there are no heroes in this war, only villains and cowards.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Not according to the standard of investigation you demand of others.

"Please answer using one of the following:

1. None. They were all innocent civilians.
2. Maybe a few.
3. Quite a substantial number.
4. Don't care. I will just carry on blaming Israel for
everything as usual."


So, your answer is.....?

edit on 15-11-2023 by Oldcarpy2 because: (no

Again you have avoided the issue.

Israel is conducting war crimes and crimes against humanity.

I don't know what side says they are conducting a war. It's not coming from Mrs Weiss by the way.

Israel is attacking and killing people at a rate of 250 civilians per day and it's unknown whether they get anyone from Hamas. So it's clear what is going on at least to those who don't unequivocally support Israel.

When you kill 250 civilians per day that's not collateral damage as someone said earlier but mass murder.

There is plenty of evidence there to make a safe argument without the need of the ICC. When and if it goes there the ICC will most likely find guilty Israel and its Government. But there is no much doubt of what had been committed. There is probably more that we don't know about.

The difference between you and Mrs Weiss is that she accepts that both Hamas and Israel have committed war crimes. You seem not to be able to accept the latter.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Weiss is based on Canada. According to you she is a "Socialist Activist".

So, not independent, or on the ground?

What's wrong with her being a socialist activist as a holocaust survivor.

What do you think she should be? An ultra right wing fascistoid like the many of these Israeli Ministers or maybe a Nazi sympathiser...

i'm sorry I'm not pro either side but If I allow someone in my home that's going to get me killed and I don't remove them myself and I turn a blind eye and I get Killed who's fault is that ?

The palestinians should have cleaned their own yard or start mowing it now .

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
Israel is only doing what is nassary the violence will never cease unless wiped out . If a mexican cartel came into America killed over 200 Men women and kids and took hostages and started shooting missiles into our cities - WE would do the same as israel ....

Start murdering everyone in Mexico? Really? You really think we would do that, or that it would be warranted?