If you support the call for Israel to offer ceasefire, then you support Hamas.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Deny Ignorance.

what does that even mean.

everyone is ignorant until they understand

are you denying ignorance by refusing to dissect your disinformation as it pertains to the thread topic?

This Douglas Macgregor Colonel says that all the fighting has to stop now before other regional forces get involved. He's worth listening to, people.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

sorry won't give you ammo to create tangents and red herrings and bully fodder

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

sorry won't give you ammo to create tangents and red herrings and bully fodder

If I'm bullying someone, would you please show me the post, if it hasn't yet been removed for T&C violations, so that I may humbly apologize?

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: Tagz

originally posted by: SomeStupidName


53% in polling show support for Hamas, mostly in Gaza.

coopwb.in...

A more local accurate statistical analysis shows 44% over all support Hamas in both Gaza and the West Bank.

www.pcpsr.org...

At the end of the day there is a huge support among the Palestinian population, and course neighboring nations for Hamas.

Level every last square inch and tarmac over it then.

You must be ignoring the 49% of Palestinians who do not support HAMAS, otherwise you would surely not be suggesting Israel to commit War Crimes and make no distinction between innocent Palestinian civilians and HAMAS militants?

Do the 49% of Palestinians who do not want HAMAS, not deserve to be given a chance of survival?

Now, I'm still following your own logic here, quite faithfully, when I ask this:

Are you willing to admit that the Palestinians who do not support HAMAS, and who would obviously have supported a ceasefire, are supporting HAMAS if they call for a ceasefire?

Yep , totally ignoring the 49%.

There is no such thing as a 'ceasefire' with regards to this war, 'deferring' would be more apt.
Innocent Palestinian civilians ? Have the 49% taken to task the terrorist that acted in their name?

This situation will be a never ending cycle if a ceasefire is agreed.
Many 10's of thousands more, those that are children today, the real innocent will die in the future for the actions/inactions of their fathers today.

I stand by my 'Level every last square inch and tarmac over it' statement, as it seems a whole lot more humane than dragging it out across generations.

originally posted by: Tagz

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: Tagz

originally posted by: SomeStupidName


53% in polling show support for Hamas, mostly in Gaza.

coopwb.in...

A more local accurate statistical analysis shows 44% over all support Hamas in both Gaza and the West Bank.

www.pcpsr.org...

At the end of the day there is a huge support among the Palestinian population, and course neighboring nations for Hamas.

Level every last square inch and tarmac over it then.

You must be ignoring the 49% of Palestinians who do not support HAMAS, otherwise you would surely not be suggesting Israel to commit War Crimes and make no distinction between innocent Palestinian civilians and HAMAS militants?

Do the 49% of Palestinians who do not want HAMAS, not deserve to be given a chance of survival?

Now, I'm still following your own logic here, quite faithfully, when I ask this:

Are you willing to admit that the Palestinians who do not support HAMAS, and who would obviously have supported a ceasefire, are supporting HAMAS if they call for a ceasefire?

Yep , totally ignoring the 49%.

There is no such thing as a 'ceasefire' with regards to this war, 'deferring' would be more apt.
Innocent Palestinian civilians ? Have the 49% taken to task the terrorist that acted in their name?

This situation will be a never ending cycle if a ceasefire is agreed.
Many 10's of thousands more, those that are children today, the real innocent will die in the future for the actions/inactions of their fathers today.

I stand by my 'Level every last square inch and tarmac over it' statement, as it seems a whole lot more humane than dragging it out across generations.

The other 51% of Gaza civilians are also NON-COMBATANTS NONMILITANTS.

Only if they take up arms with HAMAS do they become militants.

I think we played into a fallacy that I just now recognized, that non-combatant civilian HAMAS supporters in poll results deserve to die along with HAMAS.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Fallacy, I see no fallacy?

originally posted by: Tagz
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Fallacy, I see no fallacy?

Really?

There's absolutely no mistake in the logic, that thousands of non-combatant civilians are expendable in the War on Terror2.0?

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Seeing as how Hamas don't wear uniforms and hide amongst civilians, how might the IDF distinguish them?

Seeing as how they were asked to leave?

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Again, how many of the dead are combatants?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Seeing as how Hamas don't wear uniforms and hide amongst civilians, how might the IDF distinguish them?

Seeing as how they were asked to leave?

Is the IDF even trying to make the distinction?

Does anyone really believe there is even the remotest chance of the intention to distinguish civilians through a bombardment lasting weeks?

Is this your favorite talking point for arguing that Israel is absolved of inhumane violence?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Again, how many of the dead are combatants?

Why do you not just tell me?

I would also like an explanation as to how that is relevant.

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: Tagz

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: Tagz

originally posted by: SomeStupidName


53% in polling show support for Hamas, mostly in Gaza.

coopwb.in...

A more local accurate statistical analysis shows 44% over all support Hamas in both Gaza and the West Bank.

www.pcpsr.org...

At the end of the day there is a huge support among the Palestinian population, and course neighboring nations for Hamas.

Level every last square inch and tarmac over it then.

You must be ignoring the 49% of Palestinians who do not support HAMAS, otherwise you would surely not be suggesting Israel to commit War Crimes and make no distinction between innocent Palestinian civilians and HAMAS militants?

Do the 49% of Palestinians who do not want HAMAS, not deserve to be given a chance of survival?

Now, I'm still following your own logic here, quite faithfully, when I ask this:

Are you willing to admit that the Palestinians who do not support HAMAS, and who would obviously have supported a ceasefire, are supporting HAMAS if they call for a ceasefire?

Yep , totally ignoring the 49%.

There is no such thing as a 'ceasefire' with regards to this war, 'deferring' would be more apt.
Innocent Palestinian civilians ? Have the 49% taken to task the terrorist that acted in their name?

This situation will be a never ending cycle if a ceasefire is agreed.
Many 10's of thousands more, those that are children today, the real innocent will die in the future for the actions/inactions of their fathers today.

I stand by my 'Level every last square inch and tarmac over it' statement, as it seems a whole lot more humane than dragging it out across generations.

The other 51% of Gaza civilians are also NON-COMBATANTS NONMILITANTS.

Only if they take up arms with HAMAS do they become militants.

I think we played into a fallacy that I just now recognized, that non-combatant civilian HAMAS supporters in poll results deserve to die along with HAMAS.

It's not about deserving anything. It's about the cost of doing nothing. Those are the two answers, fight back or don't. Those non combatants are going to die either way. This way, the hundreds die knowing that millions will thrive thanks to their sacrifice instead of dying in vain knowing thousands and perhaps millions more are doomed to the same fate.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

My question was, how might they?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

My question was, how might they?

I'm not an expert in counter-terrorism.

You are not an expert in counter-terrorism, thankfully.

My question was: Why don't they try?

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Sell me your scenario for lasting peace.
No need for a long drawn out essay, bullet points will do.

Scrap that, don't waste your time as there isn't one.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: Tagz

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: Tagz

originally posted by: SomeStupidName


53% in polling show support for Hamas, mostly in Gaza.

coopwb.in...

A more local accurate statistical analysis shows 44% over all support Hamas in both Gaza and the West Bank.

www.pcpsr.org...

At the end of the day there is a huge support among the Palestinian population, and course neighboring nations for Hamas.

Level every last square inch and tarmac over it then.

You must be ignoring the 49% of Palestinians who do not support HAMAS, otherwise you would surely not be suggesting Israel to commit War Crimes and make no distinction between innocent Palestinian civilians and HAMAS militants?

Do the 49% of Palestinians who do not want HAMAS, not deserve to be given a chance of survival?

Now, I'm still following your own logic here, quite faithfully, when I ask this:

Are you willing to admit that the Palestinians who do not support HAMAS, and who would obviously have supported a ceasefire, are supporting HAMAS if they call for a ceasefire?

Yep , totally ignoring the 49%.

There is no such thing as a 'ceasefire' with regards to this war, 'deferring' would be more apt.
Innocent Palestinian civilians ? Have the 49% taken to task the terrorist that acted in their name?

This situation will be a never ending cycle if a ceasefire is agreed.
Many 10's of thousands more, those that are children today, the real innocent will die in the future for the actions/inactions of their fathers today.

I stand by my 'Level every last square inch and tarmac over it' statement, as it seems a whole lot more humane than dragging it out across generations.

The other 51% of Gaza civilians are also NON-COMBATANTS NONMILITANTS.

Only if they take up arms with HAMAS do they become militants.

I think we played into a fallacy that I just now recognized, that non-combatant civilian HAMAS supporters in poll results deserve to die along with HAMAS.

It's not about deserving anything. It's about the cost of doing nothing. Those are the two answers, fight back or don't. Those non combatants are going to die either way. This way, the hundreds die knowing that millions will thrive thanks to their sacrifice instead of dying in vain knowing thousands and perhaps millions more are doomed to the same fate.

It's about the narrow perception and logical fallacy that the only way to fight terrorism is with indiscriminate destruction, regardless of civilian presence.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor
They had plenty of time to evacuate.

originally posted by: Tagz
a reply to: BiothermalReactor
They had plenty of time to evacuate.

How much time was that?

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: Tagz

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: Tagz

originally posted by: SomeStupidName


53% in polling show support for Hamas, mostly in Gaza.

coopwb.in...

A more local accurate statistical analysis shows 44% over all support Hamas in both Gaza and the West Bank.

www.pcpsr.org...

At the end of the day there is a huge support among the Palestinian population, and course neighboring nations for Hamas.

Level every last square inch and tarmac over it then.

You must be ignoring the 49% of Palestinians who do not support HAMAS, otherwise you would surely not be suggesting Israel to commit War Crimes and make no distinction between innocent Palestinian civilians and HAMAS militants?

Do the 49% of Palestinians who do not want HAMAS, not deserve to be given a chance of survival?

Now, I'm still following your own logic here, quite faithfully, when I ask this:

Are you willing to admit that the Palestinians who do not support HAMAS, and who would obviously have supported a ceasefire, are supporting HAMAS if they call for a ceasefire?

Yep , totally ignoring the 49%.

There is no such thing as a 'ceasefire' with regards to this war, 'deferring' would be more apt.
Innocent Palestinian civilians ? Have the 49% taken to task the terrorist that acted in their name?

This situation will be a never ending cycle if a ceasefire is agreed.
Many 10's of thousands more, those that are children today, the real innocent will die in the future for the actions/inactions of their fathers today.

I stand by my 'Level every last square inch and tarmac over it' statement, as it seems a whole lot more humane than dragging it out across generations.

The other 51% of Gaza civilians are also NON-COMBATANTS NONMILITANTS.

Only if they take up arms with HAMAS do they become militants.

I think we played into a fallacy that I just now recognized, that non-combatant civilian HAMAS supporters in poll results deserve to die along with HAMAS.

It's not about deserving anything. It's about the cost of doing nothing. Those are the two answers, fight back or don't. Those non combatants are going to die either way. This way, the hundreds die knowing that millions will thrive thanks to their sacrifice instead of dying in vain knowing thousands and perhaps millions more are doomed to the same fate.

It's about the narrow perception and logical fallacy that the only way to fight terrorism is with indiscriminate destruction, regardless of civilian presence.

Can you give me thought on this line of Disinformation?

You mean the thoughts I literally just typed a few minutes ago and you brushed off without pause or regard?