If you support the call for Israel to offer ceasefire, then you support Hamas.

originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: Jhayesdvm
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I'd ask you what specifically makes you support a ceasefire and what you think that will accomplish. If you cite some made-up numbers that Hamas fed you, and don't believe that Hamas will kill more Israeli children next time they have the opportunity, then I'd call you an idiot.

Everyone who supports a ceasefires believe it will accomplish two things:

1: combat stops

2: leaders talk

There was a ceasefire, and dirty Arabs started decapitation babies out of nowhere. If you'd like to go over there and tell them they shouldn't do that, I'll buy your ticket.

Arab is a very general term and your comment sounds racist because it sounds like being an Arab means being predisposed to the thing you describe during a ceasefire.

What leaders talk? Which ones? Are you talking about Hamas leaders in Qatar? Do you think the billionaire Hamas leaders in Qatar gaf about "peace talks"? Seriously?

I'm talking about the military leaders of Israel and the military leaders of HAMAS who are there in Gaza. The people who are in Gaza with the guns are the people the military leaders of Israel need to talk to.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: FaeDedAgain
as do I but I am not a zionist...neither are you.

you should accept that.

a reply to: DBCowboy

You do you, boo

like wise

Palestinians are an ETHNOnational people..

zionist are ethnonational as well as ethnoreligous people.

Zionism is Israel's national ideology. Zionists believe Judaism is a nationality as well as a religion

zionist are pushing religion and geographic rule in a package deal.

its there way or the highway.

many don't think that is freedom.

I don't.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I don't care what you do.

I'm just pointing out BS from pseudo-intellectuals who think they're smarter than everyone.

Why don't you attack the argument instead of slandering me without proof?

The topic is the logical fallacy of arguing supporting a ceasefire is supporting terrorists.

*sigh*

I have pointed out that you can't destroy hamas while calling for a cease-fire that will not destroy hamas.

I agree with your statement 100%.

You also can't kill more innocent civilians with hundreds of [guided] [precision] bombs.

You also can't eliminate HAMAS without a ceasefire without completely and utterly razing the entire city and collapsing every tunnel, and I'm pretty sure that will not keep Israel safe, nor will Israel have the same level of support from the western world as before.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

So we agree.

You do not want hamas destroyed.

'Kay.

Fine.

a reply to: FaeDedAgain

They are censoring the Israeli press and killed journalists, even in the Lebanon.

Talking about freedom in that context is just hot air. Whatever it was before, it's unity party fascism now.

It's almost funny how people can accuse pro-peace movement of being terrorists supporters and pro-killing of being freedom loving people.

Almost.....

That isn't going to work anymore.

Not only do I believe a cease fire would be in the innocent Palestinians interest - it would also be in the long-term interest of Israel.

This whole "the killings will continue until morale improves" is ridiculous.

You'll never kill enough to stop all threats.

Look how many people want death to America - Geez everyone hates us. Someone we stay relatively safe without bombing whole ethnic groups.

a reply to: Daughter2v2

How are you going to convince palestinians to stop killing Jews?

Harsh language?

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I don't care what you do.

I'm just pointing out BS from pseudo-intellectuals who think they're smarter than everyone.

Why don't you attack the argument instead of slandering me without proof?

The topic is the logical fallacy of arguing supporting a ceasefire is supporting terrorists.

*sigh*

I have pointed out that you can't destroy hamas while calling for a cease-fire that will not destroy hamas.

I agree with your statement 100%.

You also can't kill more innocent civilians with hundreds of [guided] [precision] bombs.

You also can't eliminate HAMAS without a ceasefire without completely and utterly razing the entire city and collapsing every tunnel, and I'm pretty sure that will not keep Israel safe, nor will Israel have the same level of support from the western world as before.

1,000 souls and families traded to keep 20,000 souls and families intact. If someone doesn't act decisively, without mercy, at some point those families will be annihilated no matter how you scrape and dig for alternative.

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I don't care what you do.

I'm just pointing out BS from pseudo-intellectuals who think they're smarter than everyone.

Why don't you attack the argument instead of slandering me without proof?

The topic is the logical fallacy of arguing supporting a ceasefire is supporting terrorists.

*sigh*

I have pointed out that you can't destroy hamas while calling for a cease-fire that will not destroy hamas.

I agree with your statement 100%.

You also can't kill more innocent civilians with hundreds of [guided] [precision] bombs.

You also can't eliminate HAMAS without a ceasefire without completely and utterly razing the entire city and collapsing every tunnel, and I'm pretty sure that will not keep Israel safe, nor will Israel have the same level of support from the western world as before.

and so it's time for the Palestinian people to turn on Hamas .

If they don't want their city reduced to rubble it's time to kill the cancer .

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor


You also can't eliminate HAMAS without a ceasefire without completely and utterly razing the entire city and collapsing every tunnel, and I'm pretty sure that will not keep Israel safe, nor will Israel have the same level of support from the western world as before.

That wouldn't even work. The Hamas leaders are probably far away and very protected.

And if Israel kills everyone in Palestine, it's just going to create hatred in other countries. As Elon Musk said for every Hamas member killed there are three more created.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I don't care what you do.

I'm just pointing out BS from pseudo-intellectuals who think they're smarter than everyone.

Why don't you attack the argument instead of slandering me without proof?

The topic is the logical fallacy of arguing supporting a ceasefire is supporting terrorists.

*sigh*

I have pointed out that you can't destroy hamas while calling for a cease-fire that will not destroy hamas.

I agree with your statement 100%.

You also can't kill more innocent civilians with hundreds of [guided] [precision] bombs.

You also can't eliminate HAMAS without a ceasefire without completely and utterly razing the entire city and collapsing every tunnel, and I'm pretty sure that will not keep Israel safe, nor will Israel have the same level of support from the western world as before.

and so it's time for the Palestinian people to turn on Hamas .

If they don't want their city reduced to rubble it's time to kill the cancer .

They won't get that chance or any other if too many people believe a ceasefire means supporting terrorists.

originally posted by: Daughter2v2

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor


You also can't eliminate HAMAS without a ceasefire without completely and utterly razing the entire city and collapsing every tunnel, and I'm pretty sure that will not keep Israel safe, nor will Israel have the same level of support from the western world as before.

That wouldn't even work. The Hamas leaders are probably far away and very protected.

And if Israel kills everyone in Palestine, it's just going to create hatred in other countries. As Elon Musk said for every Hamas member killed there are three more created.

Those who march under Hamas command will be summarily dispatched as hostile invaders should be.

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I don't care what you do.

I'm just pointing out BS from pseudo-intellectuals who think they're smarter than everyone.

Why don't you attack the argument instead of slandering me without proof?

The topic is the logical fallacy of arguing supporting a ceasefire is supporting terrorists.

*sigh*

I have pointed out that you can't destroy hamas while calling for a cease-fire that will not destroy hamas.

I agree with your statement 100%.

You also can't kill more innocent civilians with hundreds of [guided] [precision] bombs.

You also can't eliminate HAMAS without a ceasefire without completely and utterly razing the entire city and collapsing every tunnel, and I'm pretty sure that will not keep Israel safe, nor will Israel have the same level of support from the western world as before.

and so it's time for the Palestinian people to turn on Hamas .

If they don't want their city reduced to rubble it's time to kill the cancer .

They won't get that chance or any other if too many people believe a ceasefire means supporting terrorists.

The Palestinian people are there in the moment happening now , They could give a sh*t what the international community thinks . Rebellions only take a spark , It's their city , their land, their lives .

How long before they stop playing Victim and exile the real problem.

a reply to: DBCowboy

The same way we keep white supremist from killing minorities.
The same way we kept Muslim children safe after that nut case stabbed that little boy to death over 20 times.

And I don't believe that if everyone had equal rights, there would be mass killings.
There's plenty of videos on both sides calling for death to the other side...

But as long as there aren't leaders stirring up hatred, people will naturally just want to live in peace and take care of their families.

It's easy to hate someone if they live behind a wall. If people lived together, shared roads, schools ect. it would be hard to stir up that hatred.

double

a reply to: DBCowboy


Well when someone's actively swinging at you you tend to swing back,
unless you're the Quaker Oats guy.

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
a reply to: DBCowboy

The same way we keep white supremist from killing minorities.
The same way we kept Muslim children safe after that nut case stabbed that little boy to death over 20 times.

And I don't believe that if everyone had equal rights, there would be mass killings.
There's plenty of videos on both sides calling for death to the other side...

But as long as there aren't leaders stirring up hatred, people will naturally just want to live in peace and take care of their families.

It's easy to hate someone if they live behind a wall. If people lived together, shared roads, schools ect. it would be hard to stir up that hatred.

Then really, the first step is to recognize Israel as a sovereign nation.

Also, release the god-damned hostages.

originally posted by: TheValeyard
a reply to: DBCowboy


Well when someone's actively swinging at you you tend to swing back,
unless you're the Quaker Oats guy.

Yeah, which is why I support Israel.

October 7th.

Might want to check and see what happened.

originally posted by: Daughter2v2

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor


You also can't eliminate HAMAS without a ceasefire without completely and utterly razing the entire city and collapsing every tunnel, and I'm pretty sure that will not keep Israel safe, nor will Israel have the same level of support from the western world as before.

That wouldn't even work. The Hamas leaders are probably far away and very protected.

And if Israel kills everyone in Palestine, it's just going to create hatred in other countries. As Elon Musk said for every Hamas member killed there are three more created.

Oh, my goodness, you are correct. HAMAS isn't even headquartered in Gaza so all these posters bloodlusting for HAMAS destruction by bombing Gaza to dust are all sorely mistaken in very deeply embedded ways.

sounds like it is time for Israel to change

stop being a pusher and chill out.

aint never gonna be that way

a reply to: BiothermalReactor