If you support the call for Israel to offer ceasefire, then you support Hamas.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

So y'all don't support hamas, but think zionism is evil, amirite?

Do you think you are right?

Would you consider yourself a Zionist?

Do you consider me a Zionist?

I'm a Zionist.

I see neither of you can or will answer the question.

Interesting.

For one thing it's none of your business and secondly the topic is supporting a ceasefire and what that means.

Do you support the genocide of civilians and occupation and abuse of Palestinians because you are pro-Israel?

The reason why I ask is simple.

If you aren't for the state of Israel then it places what you both say in a different light.

Like I said, interesting.

PHOTOS: Palestinian Women, Children Joined Hamas in Looting in October 7 Attack


7500BC or 75000BC ? 🦘️

JERUSALEM, Israel — Photos and victim testimonies have emerged showing that Palestinian women and children joined the looting of at least one Israeli community during the October 7 terror attack by the Palestinian Hamas organization.

It was already known that some Palestinian civilians participated in the looting, and allegedly in some of the atrocities as well, but there has been little direct evidence yet presented to the world of women and children looting devastated Israeli communities.

The evidence was presented by survivors from the community of Kibbutz Nir Oz during a conference for journalists in Eilat, Israel. Nir Oz is 2km away from the Gaza border on a straight road; it lost one fourth of its residents to murder and kidnapping.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

So y'all don't support hamas, but think zionism is evil, amirite?

This is the same broken logic referenced in the topic post.

You are incorrect on my account. How did you arrive at this conclusion? We could all benefit from knowing how you arrive at such an illogical conclusion when no one in this thread has expressed the opinion that Zionism is evil except asabuvsobelow.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Simple.

Zi·on·ism
[ˈzīəˌnizəm]
NOUN
a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann.

Bold is mine.

If you aren't for the state of Israel existing, then that might make you hamas.

N'est ce pas?

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
PHOTOS: Palestinian Women, Children Joined Hamas in Looting in October 7 Attack


7500BC or 75000BC ? 🦘️

JERUSALEM, Israel — Photos and victim testimonies have emerged showing that Palestinian women and children joined the looting of at least one Israeli community during the October 7 terror attack by the Palestinian Hamas organization.

It was already known that some Palestinian civilians participated in the looting, and allegedly in some of the atrocities as well, but there has been little direct evidence yet presented to the world of women and children looting devastated Israeli communities.

The evidence was presented by survivors from the community of Kibbutz Nir Oz during a conference for journalists in Eilat, Israel. Nir Oz is 2km away from the Gaza border on a straight road; it lost one fourth of its residents to murder and kidnapping.

I can't look at any more photos of the horrors that the palestinians did on Oct 7th, but I will star your post.

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
PHOTOS: Palestinian Women, Children Joined Hamas in Looting in October 7 Attack


7500BC or 75000BC ? 🦘️

JERUSALEM, Israel — Photos and victim testimonies have emerged showing that Palestinian women and children joined the looting of at least one Israeli community during the October 7 terror attack by the Palestinian Hamas organization.

It was already known that some Palestinian civilians participated in the looting, and allegedly in some of the atrocities as well, but there has been little direct evidence yet presented to the world of women and children looting devastated Israeli communities.

The evidence was presented by survivors from the community of Kibbutz Nir Oz during a conference for journalists in Eilat, Israel. Nir Oz is 2km away from the Gaza border on a straight road; it lost one fourth of its residents to murder and kidnapping.

I would like to hear your input on the excerpt you posted here. Please formulate a post explaining the point you were trying to make.

It's not just Pro-Israel or Pro-Hamas.
There is a 3rd stance:

Anti- WW3.

originally posted by: TheValeyard

It's not just Pro-Israel or Pro-Hamas.
There is a 3rd stance:

Anti- WW3.

Perhaps being pro-Israel is the same as being anti-WW3.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Judging by the actions of Bibi, I'm not sure he is interested in the survival of Israel, either. Nor are the families of the hostages. And what's this state going to look like when it's done bombing it's citizens? Are we going to kill all hostages first, like in the movies?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

If you aren't for the state of Israel existing, then that might make you hamas.

No one in this thread, or anywhere on ATS that I have seen, have expressed their opinion that the state of Israel should not exists, neither would that consclusively make them HAMAS.

This is an example of two equivalence fallacies in the same sentence. I believe there could be an award for whoever crams as many logical fallacies in one sentence. Is there a secret ATS competition which I am unaware?

originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: DBCowboy

Judging by the actions of Bibi, I'm not sure he is interested in the survival of Israel, either. Nor are the families of the hostages. And what's this state going to look like when it's done bombing it's citizens? Are we going to kill all hostages first, like in the movies?

If hamas releases the hostages, surrenders, recognizes Israel as a sovereign nation, then war goes away.

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
PHOTOS: Palestinian Women, Children Joined Hamas in Looting in October 7 Attack


7500BC or 75000BC ? 🦘️

JERUSALEM, Israel — Photos and victim testimonies have emerged showing that Palestinian women and children joined the looting of at least one Israeli community during the October 7 terror attack by the Palestinian Hamas organization.

It was already known that some Palestinian civilians participated in the looting, and allegedly in some of the atrocities as well, but there has been little direct evidence yet presented to the world of women and children looting devastated Israeli communities.

The evidence was presented by survivors from the community of Kibbutz Nir Oz during a conference for journalists in Eilat, Israel. Nir Oz is 2km away from the Gaza border on a straight road; it lost one fourth of its residents to murder and kidnapping.

I would like to hear your input on the excerpt you posted here. Please formulate a post explaining the point you were trying to make.

Your asking ME ?? lol lol lol

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

If you aren't for the state of Israel existing, then that might make you hamas.

No one in this thread, or anywhere on ATS that I have seen, have expressed their opinion that the state of Israel should not exists, neither would that conswlusively make them HAMAS.

This is an example of two equivalence fallacies in the same sentence. I believe there could be an award for whoever crams as many logical fallacies in one sentence. Is there a secret ATS competition which I am unaware?

So you refuse to state that you are a Zionist, correct?

Just for the record.

originally posted by: TheValeyard

It's not just Pro-Israel or Pro-Hamas.
There is a 3rd stance:

Anti- WW3.

There's also me, who is anti-war, and then there's also me, anti-violence, and then here I am again, AHIMSA.

a reply to: DBCowboy


You'll need to qualify that since it is a claim.

Right now, the stance and sending money has already escalated tensions with multiple countries.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

If you aren't for the state of Israel existing, then that might make you hamas.

No one in this thread, or anywhere on ATS that I have seen, have expressed their opinion that the state of Israel should not exists, neither would that conswlusively make them HAMAS.

This is an example of two equivalence fallacies in the same sentence. I believe there could be an award for whoever crams as many logical fallacies in one sentence. Is there a secret ATS competition which I am unaware?

So you refuse to state that you are a Zionist, correct?

Just for the record.

I don't know where you got that, and that is a different sort of fallacy than the thread topic imposes.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Real deep-state copper vibe tonight, innit?

originally posted by: TheValeyard
a reply to: DBCowboy


You'll need to qualify that since it is a claim.

Right now, the stance and sending money has already escalated tensions with multiple countries.

We know Iran is backing hamas, hezbollah, etc. Basically any batsh#t Muslim with a woody for the death of Jews.

WITH Israel in the picture, we keep the fight there, they're the tip of the spear with the wars on radical Islam.

Without Israel, we're sitting ducks in the west.

originally posted by: WingDingLuey

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
PHOTOS: Palestinian Women, Children Joined Hamas in Looting in October 7 Attack


7500BC or 75000BC ? 🦘️

JERUSALEM, Israel — Photos and victim testimonies have emerged showing that Palestinian women and children joined the looting of at least one Israeli community during the October 7 terror attack by the Palestinian Hamas organization.

It was already known that some Palestinian civilians participated in the looting, and allegedly in some of the atrocities as well, but there has been little direct evidence yet presented to the world of women and children looting devastated Israeli communities.

The evidence was presented by survivors from the community of Kibbutz Nir Oz during a conference for journalists in Eilat, Israel. Nir Oz is 2km away from the Gaza border on a straight road; it lost one fourth of its residents to murder and kidnapping.

I would like to hear your input on the excerpt you posted here. Please formulate a post explaining the point you were trying to make.

Your asking ME ?? lol lol lol

Yes, as you can see in my reply, I absolutely am asking you specifically to back up your excerpt with something relevant that you thought of and write it here so I might examine your postulate and see if we can make some truth of it.

Please?

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

If you aren't for the state of Israel existing, then that might make you hamas.

No one in this thread, or anywhere on ATS that I have seen, have expressed their opinion that the state of Israel should not exists, neither would that conswlusively make them HAMAS.

This is an example of two equivalence fallacies in the same sentence. I believe there could be an award for whoever crams as many logical fallacies in one sentence. Is there a secret ATS competition which I am unaware?

So you refuse to state that you are a Zionist, correct?

Just for the record.

I don't know where you got that, and that is a different sort of fallacy than the thread topic imposes.

Your answer is answer enough.

I know where you stand.

So does anyone else reading this thread.