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Half a million people march in London for Palestine

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posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

And I said if it was even 1 in 10 I would be surprised, but you rolled past that and continued to claim 'trauma' as an excuse.



posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

You said they are all traumatized by seeing their friends and family blown up. Just now!

Here we go with the word games and spin again.

No time for it today Quint.





Well the 'all' part came from a video I watched from the other thread here from that doctor who trauma counsels Palestinians. He stated 'all' Palestinians are in a constant state of trauma while Israels are in an 'in and out' state of trauma. Can we not use what trauma experts say about the trauma of Palestinians?

Is it reasonable to assume all the pro-Palestinian protesters are Palestinian and therefore from Gabor's decades of experience treating them, that they are 'all' traumatized?



posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 09:47 AM
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originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

And I said if it was even 1 in 10 I would be surprised, but you rolled past that and continued to claim 'trauma' as an excuse.



Again, the trauma expert, Gabor on another thread here, claims that after decades of treating Palesinians.



posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 09:48 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone
So the Palestinians in that occupied open air prison being harassed and killed don't have the same rights to self-defense?


This isn't 'freedom fighting' and it's not 'self defense'.
This is evil and sick.
Hamas apologists should be ashamed of themselves.

Isreali Special Police Investigating Sex Crimes of Oct 7 Terror Attack


Hamas terrorists gang-raped Israeli woman before one shot her in the back of the head as he was still having sex with her': Horrifying account revealed as police gather evidence of sex assaults during October 7 attack


More info at the link. I only quoted a small part of it.



posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
So the Palestinians in that occupied open air prison being harassed and killed don't have the same rights to self-defense?


This isn't 'freedom fighting' and it's not 'self defense'.
This is evil and sick.
Hamas apologists should be ashamed of themselves.

Isreali Special Police Investigating Sex Crimes of Oct 7 Terror Attack


Hamas terrorists gang-raped Israeli woman before one shot her in the back of the head as he was still having sex with her': Horrifying account revealed as police gather evidence of sex assaults during October 7 attack


More info at the link. I only quoted a small part of it.


Hamas was created by Israel's occupation and not honoring agreements, so why is everyone surprised when Hamas rises up as has been done by other factions in Palestine for decades?



posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis

originally posted by: SprocketUK
CND was historically influenced by the KGB and took money provided by them.
sauce


They were also, far more recently, infiltrated by CID officers who deceived members into having sexual relationships with them, even fathering children. Who can agree that was a waste of tax payers' money?

Did the CND break any laws in accepting financial donations from the "Soviets"? You know, like Anthony Blunt did. Did they exchange classified information for that funding, or did they just use that funding to do what they were going to do anyway? Is there any evidence, at all, that an an active member of the CND was in the employ and following the commands of the soviets?

Those deeply penetrative CID officers don't seem to have produced any evidence of real wrong doing. Their own extensive wrong-doing is however well-evidenced and even admitted.





well you would have to expect CID/Special Branch to get involved when the suspicion that CND was being turned into a pro soviet sock puppet.



posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: nugget1
There are only two ways this can ever end; either the jihadists who follow radical Islam eventually wipe out all other people who do not believe as they do, or they are wiped out.

Until then, it will be constant attacks, death and slavery thanks to a very twisted, cultish version of 'God'.


In your, highly alarmist, opinion.


It sure is a blessing that rest of the world isn't limited to your imagination alone.



posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

I ask simple questions, you choose to make them more difficult than they need to be

For example:

how many people were polled

Where is Palestine, show me on a map

Who is the original inhabitant of the area people are calling Palestine?


None of these were answered, but I am the one not answering questions. Sure



posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

So again you claim all the pro-terrorist protesters are Palestinian. You just did it again.


So, what exactly does Israel do when not in an open exchange of hostilities with Palestine? You know, when that trauma is 'off'.

They conduct business, they farm, they produce, go to school, join the military and train. Women and men together as equals.

What does Palestine do? Keep their women away from business, in the back raising children, in a burka, in the kitchen. They burn down farms and homes given to them. They produce nothing of notice but improvised rockets and bombs. They school their children in an extreme fundamental religious ideology (OH NO!!! SAY IT ISNT SO!) and teach them hate.

If Palestine is continually traumatized, maybe they need to examine their own disfunctional 'family'.


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posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 09:55 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

And I said if it was even 1 in 10 I would be surprised, but you rolled past that and continued to claim 'trauma' as an excuse.



Again, the trauma expert, Gabor on another thread here, claims that after decades of treating Palesinians.


Decades of treating the palis?
Treating them for what?



posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

So again you claim all the pro-terrorist protesters are Palestinian. You just did it again.


So, what exactly does Israel do when not in an open exchange of hostilities with Palestine? You know, when that trauma is 'off'.

They conduct business, they farm, they produce, go to school, join the military and train. Women and me together as equals.

What does Palestine do? Keep their women away from business, in the back raising children, in a burka, in the kitchen. They burn down farms and homes given to them. They produce nothing of notice but improvised rockets and bombs. They school their children in an extreme fundamental religious ideology (OH NO!!! SAY IT ISNT SO!) and teach them hate.

If Palestine is continually traumatized, maybe they need to examine their own disfunctional 'family'.



No, I claim the pro-Palestinian marchers are most likely Palestinian. The other marching groups, who knows?

There are horrific accounts of abuse and killings in those open air prisons but hey you don't really want to know now, do you?

From your post you think they deserve to be blown off the face of the Earth, hmm? After all they are subhuman, right?
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posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 10:00 AM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK
well you would have to expect CID/Special Branch to get involved when the suspicion that CND was being turned into a pro soviet sock puppet.


You do realise that obtaining sex by deception is technically rape?

I'm starting to understand what Nugget meant about "cults" even if he doesn't.

Did you even read your own link?



In 1967, a CIA report on the US peace movement observed that "the Communist Party of the USA benefits from anti-US activity by Peace groups but does not appear to be inspiring them or directing them."[34] After demonstrations against NATO missiles in West Germany in 1981, an official investigation turned up circumstantial evidence but no absolute proof of KGB involvement. Western intelligence experts concluded that the movement in Europe at that time was probably not Soviet-inspired.[21]

In 1983, MI5 and MI6 reported to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher on Soviet contacts with the peace movement, based on the testimony of KGB officer Oleg Gordievsky. According to Christopher Andrew's official history of MI5, Gordievsky's evidence indicated that there was little effective contact between either the KGB or the Soviet embassy and the peace movement.[35]


en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

I ask simple questions, you choose to make them more difficult than they need to be

For example:

how many people were polled

Where is Palestine, show me on a map

Who is the original inhabitant of the area people are calling Palestine?


None of these were answered, but I am the one not answering questions. Sure



The poll numbers are a glimpse of the whole, just because you don't like the numbers in that poll doesn't make it incorrect (I answered this before, and again now). Do you think most of humanity accepts the genocide of Palestinians and the destruction of Gaza?

Gaza and the West Bank are clearly marked on a map. Palestinians and others live there, what have they named their region where they live?...Palestine. So Israel refuses to acknowledge a two-state agreement and never will, do you think the term 'Palestine' would be the first thing to be wiped away into the abyss?

The original inhabitants, as researched by another member here, from the days of Jesus, is recorded as the inhabitants spoke Arabic. So after many massacres and changing of hands, who really has a right to that land?

I want to stay on topic of this thread re: London marches.
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posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
So the Palestinians in that occupied open air prison being harassed and killed don't have the same rights to self-defense?


This isn't 'freedom fighting' and it's not 'self defense'.
This is evil and sick.
Hamas apologists should be ashamed of themselves.

Isreali Special Police Investigating Sex Crimes of Oct 7 Terror Attack


Hamas terrorists gang-raped Israeli woman before one shot her in the back of the head as he was still having sex with her': Horrifying account revealed as police gather evidence of sex assaults during October 7 attack


More info at the link. I only quoted a small part of it.


Hamas was created by Israel's occupation and not honoring agreements, so why is everyone surprised when Hamas rises up as has been done by other factions in Palestine for decades?


That's like saying the Allies created Hitler because we beat Germany in WWI.



posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: VermiIion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

And I said if it was even 1 in 10 I would be surprised, but you rolled past that and continued to claim 'trauma' as an excuse.



Again, the trauma expert, Gabor on another thread here, claims that after decades of treating Palesinians.


Decades of treating the palis?
Treating them for what?


Really? Do your own research Gabor Mate.



posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
So the Palestinians in that occupied open air prison being harassed and killed don't have the same rights to self-defense?


This isn't 'freedom fighting' and it's not 'self defense'.
This is evil and sick.
Hamas apologists should be ashamed of themselves.

Isreali Special Police Investigating Sex Crimes of Oct 7 Terror Attack


Hamas terrorists gang-raped Israeli woman before one shot her in the back of the head as he was still having sex with her': Horrifying account revealed as police gather evidence of sex assaults during October 7 attack


More info at the link. I only quoted a small part of it.


Hamas was created by Israel's occupation and not honoring agreements, so why is everyone surprised when Hamas rises up as has been done by other factions in Palestine for decades?


That's like saying the Allies created Hitler because we beat Germany in WWI.



No it's not. This is an ongoing forever conflict with it's own particular problems.



posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis

originally posted by: SprocketUK
well you would have to expect CID/Special Branch to get involved when the suspicion that CND was being turned into a pro soviet sock puppet.


You do realise that obtaining sex by deception is technically rape?

I'm starting to understand what Nugget meant about "cults" even if he doesn't.

Did you even read your own link?



In 1967, a CIA report on the US peace movement observed that "the Communist Party of the USA benefits from anti-US activity by Peace groups but does not appear to be inspiring them or directing them."[34] After demonstrations against NATO missiles in West Germany in 1981, an official investigation turned up circumstantial evidence but no absolute proof of KGB involvement. Western intelligence experts concluded that the movement in Europe at that time was probably not Soviet-inspired.[21]

In 1983, MI5 and MI6 reported to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher on Soviet contacts with the peace movement, based on the testimony of KGB officer Oleg Gordievsky. According to Christopher Andrew's official history of MI5, Gordievsky's evidence indicated that there was little effective contact between either the KGB or the Soviet embassy and the peace movement.[35]


en.wikipedia.org...



I know, I watch the news, I think you are being unreasonable to expect the security services to play a straight bat when they think the Soviets are involved. As for the link, you expect the KGB probably the best infiltrating intelligence agency in the world to announce it on a bulletin board in times square? and Little does not mean none. If you think it is the same, try haveing a cup of tea with a little bit of polonium in it...



posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 10:10 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: VermiIion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

And I said if it was even 1 in 10 I would be surprised, but you rolled past that and continued to claim 'trauma' as an excuse.



Again, the trauma expert, Gabor on another thread here, claims that after decades of treating Palesinians.


Decades of treating the palis?
Treating them for what?


Really? Do your own research Gabor Mate.


I’m trying to figure out where you’re truly coming from.
It helps when you answer a simple question.

You’re saying the palis have been treated by a doctor for something for decades.
You said they only protested because the Israeli response to being massacred on October 7.
You just said this “ This is an ongoing forever conflict with it's own particular problems.”

If all those things you claim are true then I’ll ask you again….

Where were the protestors before October 7?
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posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: VermiIion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: VermiIion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

And I said if it was even 1 in 10 I would be surprised, but you rolled past that and continued to claim 'trauma' as an excuse.



Again, the trauma expert, Gabor on another thread here, claims that after decades of treating Palesinians.


Decades of treating the palis?
Treating them for what?


Really? Do your own research Gabor Mate.


I’m trying to figure out where you’re truly coming from.
It helps when you answer a simple question.

You’re saying the palis have been treated by a doctor for something for decades.
You said they only protested because the Israeli response to being massacred on October 7.
You just said this “ This is an ongoing forever conflict with it's own particular problems.”

If all those things you claim are true then I’ll ask you again….

Where were the protestors before October 7?


It also helps that you do your research before asking questions because this is no simple matter.

You can ask me again after you do your diligent research. Because I already answered it and you didn't understand the answer. Understand the answer then we can go from there.
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posted on Nov, 10 2023 @ 10:20 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
So the Palestinians in that occupied open air prison being harassed and killed don't have the same rights to self-defense?


This isn't 'freedom fighting' and it's not 'self defense'.
This is evil and sick.
Hamas apologists should be ashamed of themselves.

Isreali Special Police Investigating Sex Crimes of Oct 7 Terror Attack


Hamas terrorists gang-raped Israeli woman before one shot her in the back of the head as he was still having sex with her': Horrifying account revealed as police gather evidence of sex assaults during October 7 attack


More info at the link. I only quoted a small part of it.


Hamas was created by Israel's occupation and not honoring agreements, so why is everyone surprised when Hamas rises up as has been done by other factions in Palestine for decades?


That's like saying the Allies created Hitler because we beat Germany in WWI.



It was the Treaty of Versailles in combination with German Angst, but yes. That's history in a nutshell.


Many people, even at the time, agreed with the British economist John Maynard Keynes that Germany could not possibly pay so much in reparations without severe risks to the entire European economy. In his later memoir, U.S. President Herbert Hoover went so far as to blame reparations for causing the Great Depression.

How the Treaty of Versailles and German Guilt Led to World War II



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