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Jorden looses the second vote

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posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 01:54 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

You are correct. She has no 'BDE'.



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 01:56 PM
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a reply to: Threadbare

That is petty #. They are all acting like children and anyone who has voted against Jordan must be held accountable in the next election. You have sitting Democrats who STILL say Trump was not legit.

The US Congress is the most corrupt political system on the planet.






posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: Threadbare

And I have little faith that they will either, alone. So can they? Find a Speaker? Or will the House slide into complete stasis.Is that what the Democrats want? Is that what we the people want?



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

The 2019-2020 Congress was way more successful at getting legislation signed into law despite the fact that the Dems had a more narrow majority in the House than the GOP has now.

That would indicate that the Dems were more willing to compromise with the GOP than the current GOP is willing to compromise with the Dems.



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 01:58 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

Cheney voted with Trump 98% of the time. She's a dyed in the wool, conservative Republican. She's just the right amount of "well maybe", and "nope", instead of the whole lotta "nope" we're getting right now, in my opinion.


Cheney who? The one who lost big time in Wyoming this last election? Seems the people voted and you want to bring her in? Sounds like a plan you would endorse.


Trump also lost big time in 2020, yet people would endorse the big loser as Speaker and even bring him back as President!



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: CoyoteAngels

And in 2016 many voted for him because he wasn't Hillary.

The last time we had an election where people voted based on who the candidate was and not who the candidate wasn't is probably 2000.



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 02:02 PM
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a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Yep, I know that old victim theory and I don't believe it. That is unless we are willing to discuss the entire field of victims in this country. How the vast majority of people feel victimized by a system of economics and governance that suits only the few. Then I will debate with you the poor conservative victims who suffer at the hands of an economic system theyso ardently support.



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 02:04 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

As I've mentioned previously, there's efforts being made to grant McHenry extra authority so the more important funding bills can get passed. Whether or not the GOP go for it is another matter.



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: Threadbare

Yes, every election, there are those that are simply voting against the other guy.

Nobody draws the crowds like Trump. There's a hint in there somewhere, say what you want.



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Would you vote for someone that called you deplorable, say your kids need to be taken and you need to be re-educated?

This has been said. By as high in the dem party as Hillary Clinton. A large member of the current club in office.

call me a 'victim' again, and you and me are gonna fight.



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: Threadbare

GOP voters wont.

Guess you can't see it.



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: CoyoteAngels

He has a devoted base, but it's still a minority. If you total up the attendance of all his rallies, it's a few million at most. And that's not taking into account people that have attended multiple rallies. On top of that, if you look at the size of the crowds at previous rallies to more recent ones, there's been a visible decrease in attendance.



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 02:36 PM
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a reply to: Threadbare

MAGA is not a small minority in the republican party.

You are simply wrong.

Millions attend his rallies.

Who else is drawing any attendance that comes close? But you seem to think a year out, they are smaller. Without considering location and other variables? What gives you this notion? Data?

You'd argue your own eyes seeing, wouldn't you?
edit on 10/18/2023 by CoyoteAngels because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: Threadbare

All available statistics disagree with this.

Primary polls.
Increase in votes from 2016-2020
Voter turnout in general.



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Its fact deficient wishful thinking. LOL



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 03:04 PM
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a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Millions attend his rallies? There isn't a stadium in the world that can handle a million people. Even his own inauguration garnered massive half of that.



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: Threadbare

I guess you missed the plural, even tho' you repeated it.

And it was YOUR claim: 'a few million at most'.

How many for anyone else again? Can you say?
edit on 10/18/2023 by CoyoteAngels because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

While he is polling above 50% in the primary polls, house much is that due to him being the presumptive candidate? If he has a weak showing in Iowa or New Hampshire do you think that 50+% carries into Super Tuesday? As the weaker candidates drop out and the stronger candidates pick up more support do you think anyone might jump ship from Trump as a legitimate alternate becomes more viable?

The Dems also saw an increase between 2016 and 2020 and the increase in voter turnout in recent elections for them has drastically outpaced Republicans.

And once again, even though there's increased voter turnout, those voters aren't voting in MAGA candidates. They're still primarily voting in moderate candidates.



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: CoyoteAngels

What I said:

If you total up the attendance of all his rallies, it's a few million at most.


What you said:

You are simply wrong.

Millions attend his rallies.


I said that his rallies' total attendance is in the millions. So the only way I was wrong is if you're claiming every rally has millions of attendees.



posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: Threadbare

It seriously doesn't occur to you that representatives are more prone to local concerns than national. They are closer to the people, and a million other reasons than 'Trump', may be involved.

Why people vote one candidate over another isn't something you are going to be able to answer. And most of your analysis comes off as wishful thinking, spun to weaken whomever you don't like.

You cannot claim that never-Trumpers are the predominate favorites of Republican voters. If you do, ask yourself WTF happened to Liz Cheney?




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