Noahs Ark and the Biblical World Wide Flood Never Happened

a reply to: daskakik

It's not logic, it's arrogance.

originally posted by: Untun
It's not logic, it's arrogance.

Arrogance on god's part or arrogance on the part of the people that made up the story so they can claim to be "the chosen people"?

a reply to: daskakik

I see that since you believe God has other options the story can't be true.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Truth, reality there is evidence of floods all over the world. Like all things biblical you never get the truth from govt or science. A perfect other example would be giants.

Govt and scientists have gone to great lengths to hide their existence. Despite rousing evidence of the contrary.

It is sad people like you can't even acknowledge truth.

You have no problem understanding evil and supporting it, you simply can't have one without the other. You ignore actual truth and support lies.

You must be a Biden supporter lol. Seriously.,

originally posted by: Untun
I see that since you believe God has other options the story can't be true.

Are you saying god can't do whatever he likes so he had no other options?

originally posted by: dlbott
Truth, reality there is evidence of floods all over the world.

They are still happening but nobody is reporting a world-wide flood that killed everything not on a boat.

So, while you can say, flood stories exist all over the world, they are not talking about the same world-wide flood and if they are, more than just Noah and his family survived, otherwise who would have come up with them.

a reply to: dlbott

You must be a Biden supporter lol. Seriously.,

Check out where she is from, didn't the Biden origin story start there.

I appreciate our rainbows that came out of the flood story, it reminds me of what God did, his promise, and what he will do in the future for all humanity, cleaning the planet once again of all it's filth that has accumulated.
Looking at a rainbow gives me a great sense of peace.

Genesis 9

God also said to Noah and his sons, 9"I am going to make my promise to you, your descendants, 10and every living being that is with you-birds, domestic animals, and all the wild animals, all those that came out of the ship-every living thing on earth. 11I am making my promise to you. Never again will all life be killed by floodwaters. Never again will there be a flood that destroys the earth." 12God said, "This is the sign of the promise I am giving to you and every living being that is with you for generations to come. 13I will put my rainbow in the clouds to be a sign of my promise to the earth. 14Whenever I form clouds over the earth, a rainbow will appear in the clouds. 15Then I will remember my promise to you and every living animal. Never again will water become a flood to destroy all life. 16Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember my everlasting promise to every living animal on earth." 17So God said to Noah, "This is the sign of the promise I am making to all life on earth."

a reply to: FlyersFan
I'm confused by what your post is after.

Are you saying a flood never ravaged earth?
Or are you simply trying to show the Bible is false?

If it's the first, you failed. Science can't answer the questions , but you can? 🤔
If it's the latter, why do you care? I've never understood someone putting so much time and effort into something they don't believe in. 🤷🏼‍♀️

a reply to: daskakik

No, just saying you think God doesn't have options.

originally posted by: Untun
No, just saying you think God doesn't have options.

I'm pretty sure there is a language barrier but I am actually saying he did have options and not only that, but better options than a 600 hundred year old man building a boat that couldn't fit a pair of each animal on earth.

Also, civilizations that existed in that time that didn't experience this mega flood says that wasn't the option he chose anyway.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Untun
No, just saying you think God doesn't have options.

I'm pretty sure there is a language barrier but I am actually saying he did have options and not only that, but better options than a 600 hundred year old man building a boat that couldn't fit a pair of each animal on earth.

That, I figured out you did so far.

Also, civilizations that existed in that time that didn't experience this mega flood says that wasn't the option he chose anyway.

That, I replied already to in the thread.

originally posted by: Untun
That, I figured out you did so far.

You are contradicting yourself or googletranslate is making it look that way.

You, here

...since you believe God has other options...

Also you, here

...you think God doesn't have options...

In one post you say I believe god has other options and a couple posts later say I think he doesn't. Which is it?

That, I replied already to in the thread.

So, it doesn't change the fact that Chinese, Africans, Europeans, Indians, Australian Aborigines, Native Americans from Alaska to the tip of Chile have no record of this flood but they did exist before, during and after this flood "supposedly" happened.

So, even if it did happen, it happened in only that part of the world. It shouldn't be that difficult to understand, even if you are translating from english to whatever language they speak in your GMT+1 country.

a reply to: daskakik

I just send through what I understand from the posts you make. Maybe it is you who are contradicting yourself.

Yes, all ancient civilisations have flood stories.

originally posted by: Untun
I just send through what I understand from the posts you make. Maybe it is you who are contradicting yourself.

I literally just copy/pasted two of your posts saying opposite things. That I believe and also don't believe god has choices. That isn't me, that is you saying those opposite things.

I even tried to make it clear, all along my point is that he did have choices and Noah and the boat would have been one of the dumbest choices.

Yes, all ancient civilisations have flood stories.

Think about that. If the Noah story is true and everyone else died, how can those flood stories be about the same flood? They would have been dead and couldn't have told their story. It shouldn't be that hard for you to see the logic in that.

a reply to: daskakik

When I write to you what I understand from your posts and what I say contradicts it's because what you wrote contradicts.

Yes, I know you take God for a fool.

Did all the other ancient flood stories have the same timeline?

originally posted by: Untun
When I write to you what I understand from your posts and what I say contradicts it's because what you wrote contradicts.

Well, I guess you are not understanding, which is on you. I've been clear, god could have killed everyone he wanted to kill without a flood. I said it 10 pages ago

...it doesn't make any sense for an omnipotent being to go through all the ark/flood rigmarole when they could have just caused their hearts to stop.

I'm clearly saying God had options better than having someone build a boat that couldn't hold 2 of every animal anyway. What part of that are you not understanding?

Yes, I know you take God for a fool.

Wrong, I don't even think god exists.

Did all the other ancient flood stories have the same timeline?

No, that's what proves this story is local and the world-wide thing is exaggeration. The funny thing is that they sound the same, everyone dies except for a few chosen special people. They contradict the Noah story and the noah story contradicts them.

It isn't a case of someone claiming it isn't part of their ancestor's history, they are all wrong and it really isn't part of anybody's history. They are just stories.

originally posted by: dlbott
a reply to: FlyersFan

Truth, reality there is evidence of floods all over the world.

Indeed. Quite a few happened this year.

originally posted by: dlbott
a reply to: FlyersFan

Truth, reality there is evidence of floods all over the world.

No, there isn't. There is a severe LACK of evidence. You'd know that if you read the thread.

giants

Giants do not support the story of an ark nor the world wide flood

It is sad people like you can't even acknowledge truth.

.... says the person who can't acknowledge six pages of scientific, historical, archeological and mathematical TRUTH that proved Noahs Ark and the World Wide Flood didn't happen. Go look in a mirror when you say that.

You have no problem understanding evil and supporting it, you simply can't have one without the other. You ignore actual truth and support lies.

The exact opposite is true. Your sentence describes yourself.

You must be a Biden supporter lol. Seriously.,

"Seriously" you say? That's absurd.

You posted NOTHING to support the notion that Noahs Ark and the World Wide Flood were real. Just a bunch of insults and snark. Pffft. Can't take you seriously.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

You ran away. Address the information provided.

Egypt, India and China all had vibrant civilizations that grew and flourished before, during, and after the Noahs Ark Flood time period ... UNINTERRUPTED. Explain how all these people were killed off yet at the same time survived and thrived if Noahs Flood really happened. Oh .. and they all spoke and wrote different languages so there goes the 'everyone spoke the same language before the Tower of Babel' nonsense. But that's a discussion for another thread.


Oldest Civilizations in the World - Unbroken Civilization Through Noahs Ark Time Period - Not Wiped Out

Christian site - Christogenea - Noahs Flood Was Not World Wide

If the whole earth was covered by six miles of water, then all nations must have been completely exterminated. However Babylonian, Egyptian and Chinese history runs right through this period without a break. The Bible gives the date of the flood as commencing in 2345 B.C. and ending in 2344 B.C.. In lower Sumer, later called Chaldea, which occupied the same Plains of Shinar to which Noah’s family journeyed after the flood, the city of Ur of the Chaldees was the leading city from about 2400 B.C. until about 2285 B.C.. Its history is not broken by any flood in this period.

Farther to the north, Babylon was rising to power from about 2400 B.C. on and reached a great height of civilization under the famous King Hammurabi, who lived at the same time as the Hebrew patriarch Abraham, about 2250 B.C.. There is no break in this history due to a flood. In Egypt, the eleventh dynasty began to reign about 2375 B.C. over a great and powerful nation. The eleventh dynasty ruled to about 2212 B.C., and was followed by the twelfth dynasty, which ruled to about 2000 B.C.. There was no break in the eleventh dynasty at the time of Noah’s flood, 2345 B.C.. The nation continued to be large and powerful throughout this period.

Accurate history of China begins nearly 3000 B.C. The Shu King historic record of China, shows that King Yao came to the throne in 2356 B.C., 11 years before the start of Noah’s flood, and ruled China for many years after the flood. During the reign of Yao, the Shu King reports that the Hwang Ho river, which drains the mountains and a great basin in Sinkiang province, had excessive floods for three generations. Here again, there was no break in history. The Chinese nation was not wiped out. Its own records show it continued in existence right through the period of Noah’s flood.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
Check out where she is from, didn't the Biden origin story start there.

So because I live in Wilmington Delaware I must be a Biden supporter and evil, eh?
You people truly are stupid.

I appreciate our rainbows that came out of the flood story, it reminds me of what God did, his promise, and what he will do in the future for all humanity, cleaning the planet once again of all it's filth that has accumulated.

Rainbows come from rain water falling in the sky and the sun shining through them. It's a natural phenomenon that has been going on since the world began and has NOTHING to do with a promise from God.