Noahs Ark and the Biblical World Wide Flood Never Happened

originally posted by: Martin75
Are you saying a flood never ravaged earth?
Or are you simply trying to show the Bible is false?

Both.

If it's the first, you failed. Science can't answer the questions , but you can? 🤔

Science can and has answered the question. I gave six pages of science and archeology and history and math showing that the flood didn't happen. And there is more evidence. So much more.

If it's the latter, why do you care? I've never understood someone putting so much time and effort into something they don't believe in. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Did you read the opening post? The opening line "The conspiracy - the Biblical Noahs Ark and world wide flood story is still believed and taught by some people even today even though it has been disproven scientifically, historically, and through archeology." That is why I started the thread. My intentions are irrelevant to the topic.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
Rainbows come from rain water falling in the sky and the sun shining through them. It's a natural phenomenon that has been going on since the world began and has NOTHING to do with a promise from God.

It is sad when people who want to claim higher understanding don't even understand refraction.

a reply to: daskakik

Fine by me. Thanks for showing a little of your own understanding.

See you around.

Interesting. No one can address this.

Egypt, India and China all had vibrant civilizations that grew and flourished before, during, and after the Noahs Ark Flood time period ... UNINTERRUPTED. Explain how all these people were killed off yet at the same time survived and thrived if Noahs Flood really happened. Oh .. and they all spoke and wrote different languages so there goes the 'everyone spoke the same language before the Tower of Babel' nonsense. But that's a discussion for another thread.


Oldest Civilizations in the World - Unbroken Civilization Through Noahs Ark Time Period - Not Wiped Out

Christian site - Christogenea - Noahs Flood Was Not World Wide

If the whole earth was covered by six miles of water, then all nations must have been completely exterminated. However Babylonian, Egyptian and Chinese history runs right through this period without a break. The Bible gives the date of the flood as commencing in 2345 B.C. and ending in 2344 B.C.. In lower Sumer, later called Chaldea, which occupied the same Plains of Shinar to which Noah’s family journeyed after the flood, the city of Ur of the Chaldees was the leading city from about 2400 B.C. until about 2285 B.C.. Its history is not broken by any flood in this period.

Farther to the north, Babylon was rising to power from about 2400 B.C. on and reached a great height of civilization under the famous King Hammurabi, who lived at the same time as the Hebrew patriarch Abraham, about 2250 B.C.. There is no break in this history due to a flood. In Egypt, the eleventh dynasty began to reign about 2375 B.C. over a great and powerful nation. The eleventh dynasty ruled to about 2212 B.C., and was followed by the twelfth dynasty, which ruled to about 2000 B.C.. There was no break in the eleventh dynasty at the time of Noah’s flood, 2345 B.C.. The nation continued to be large and powerful throughout this period.

Accurate history of China begins nearly 3000 B.C. The Shu King historic record of China, shows that King Yao came to the throne in 2356 B.C., 11 years before the start of Noah’s flood, and ruled China for many years after the flood. During the reign of Yao, the Shu King reports that the Hwang Ho river, which drains the mountains and a great basin in Sinkiang province, had excessive floods for three generations. Here again, there was no break in history. The Chinese nation was not wiped out. Its own records show it continued in existence right through the period of Noah’s flood.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Knowing the Chinese, they probably 3D printed everything back on earth and destroyed the technology.

a reply to: watchitburn
Well, there has been mainstream archeological, and even geophysical proof of a huge cataclism in from of a flood around 12000 years ago since at least late 70s, that is a SOLID, PROVEN fact that a flood sometime then has happened and has wiped off various civilisations!
regarding the Arch: Well, that touches the realm of speculations, but both Turkey and Armenia, the two countries that the Ararat mountains of south cocasus are located in, BOTH have, for no apparent reason, restricted access to the mountain foot and the peaks there,. for the last 100 years actually neither locals nor any foreign individual or group, be it tourists, climbers, religous or political deligates of other nations or archeological teams from academic institutions are allowed near the place, people however frequently see light orbs and objects around the place but no one is allowed in,.

I know that Turks did relocate a few hundred residents of two small villages to other regions in early 1910s prior to the disolution of the Ottaman Empire, as to the reason why, there are all BS and nonsensical crap that both governments put out in official statements, but there are rumors that in the early 20th century there has been a brief archeological digs there, and the remnants of a ship with crudely out of place artifacts in it has been found, the finds have been relocated to the british museums and the entire site has been closed to the public and remains so, today,.

Its all speculations and empty words though as there is no official statement or news on that subject, a few years ago I read someone FOIAed the british archeological society and the british histroty museum about this and all that was publicised was receipts of transfer and shipment bills of archeological finds from then, Ottaman Empire to london in 1910, the content and the whereabouts, the examining individuals and all other details regarding this one shipment has been lost during london bombings in the war!

It all hints towards the fact that there is stuff up there in the ararat mountains that the turkish and armenian gvernments are scared to expose the public to, they both guard the place with armed soldiers with permission to use lethal force! pretty serious about it, there is no mines or shrines there, its MUST BE only barren mountains and peaks below 4000ft. but its not!

From my research, I have found that this event did occur. Mostly every major ancient civilization makes mention of the global flood that covered the entire world.





One may argue that it was simply the spread of myth, but the fact that these accounts also exist in the Americas indicate that the entire world was aware of this global event. Here are some specific examples:







called “Llocllay Pachacuti” by the Quechua, meaning “universal flood.”








So if there actually was a global flood, we should have worldwide evidence supporting such an event. We do. They are called erratics, or in other words, super large boulders that are inexplicably in the middle of nowhere. The conventional explanation for these is that glaciers during the ice age moved them, yet the supposed ice age barely reached Europe and the northern tip of the United States.





So what is the explanation for these super large boulders in the middle of nowhere all throughout the earth? If we listen to the recorded history of our ancestors, we would know it was due to the global flood:







and mostly everywhere else on the planet. Most people have seen out of place super large boulders somewhere at some point in their life. They are everywhere. And there is no better explanation than a global flood. Can't imagine how water can move boulders? Here's an example of water's effect on large rocks



(at 15 seconds)



The most consistent argument against the global flood is that there is supposedly not enough water to have flooded the whole earth. As always, science is catching up to the profound truths present in the Bible. A recent study in 2014 (link) found massive reservoirs of water deep beneath the earth's crust. This reservoir is holding enough water to fill the volume of the earth's oceans 3x over.






One researcher was quoted saying:

"We should be grateful for this deep reservoir... If it wasn't there, it would be on the surface of the Earth, and mountain tops would be the only land poking out."

This is exactly what was said to have happened to cause the global flood. Not only rain from the sky, but also the reservoirs of the deep were opened and water gushed out onto the surface of the earth:





A global flood would also explain the universal phenomenon of aquatic life being found on mountaintops:







The evidence matches perfectly with a global flood. Don't let the conditioning of the secular agenda prevent you from accepting this truth. It is straight-forward and obvious.

Noah's Ark was even found in the mountains of Ararat in Turkey, as was stated in Genesis 8:4 as its final resting place, and is also immediately below the mountain of Al Judi, the final resting place of the Ark according to the Quran:




It even has the exact length of 515 ft described in the Bible (300 Egyptian cubits). It has a pointed bow and rounded stern as you would expect with a boat. The ribbed perimeter shown in the picture above was tested in a lab and confirmed to be petrified wood




Aluminum and Titanium rivets were also found embedded in the wood timbers:




There were also giant ship anchors found nearby the ark:




They even found the tomb of Noah:




Dating the flood is also possible thanks to ample clues in the Biblical writing:




The Hebrew date of 2,304 BC matches closely with the Chinese global flood date:




We can also estimate the date of the global flood as told in the Epic of Gilgamesh. In this Mesopotamian account of the global flood, Gilgamesh was said to have slain the celestial bull


(terra cotta image estimated from between 2,250 - 1,900BC)

The celestial bull is a clear reference to the constellation Taurus. slaying the celestial bull is an allusion to the end of the age of Taurus, which occurred around 2,300BC, which matches the Hebrew account.



The Peruvian global flood account was also recorded by the Incan Historian Fernando de Montesinos to have occurred around 340 years prior to the conclusion of the second sun in 1,957 BC, which is 2,297 BC according to the Gregorian Calendar source. Again, this is very close to the Hebrew, Mesopotamian and Chinese date for the global flood.

The historical evidence for a global flood is abundant. Giant boulders in the middle of nowhere, fossils of aquatic organisms found on mountaintops, and vast reservoirs of water underneath the earth show that the global flood is also supported scientifically.

Here are some more flood accounts for further reading:

originally posted by: cooperton
Mostly every major ancient civilization makes mention of the global flood that covered the entire world.

Already discussed and debunked. Flood stories are found in various places in the world but they do not match the Noahs Flood story and floods are going to be a common myth because all cultures deal with water.

They are called erratics, or in other words, super large boulders that are inexplicably in the middle of nowhere.

Glaciers. Ice age.. They could travel 2,000 miles from place of origin. read here "The deposited debris can be traced back to the origin by both the nature of the materials released and the continuous path of debris release. Some paths extend more than 3,000 kilometres (1,900 mi) distant from the point at which the ice floes originally broke free.[7]"

A recent study in 2014 (link) found massive reservoirs of water deep beneath the earth's crust. This reservoir is holding enough water to fill the volume of the earth's oceans 3x over.

Already discussed. It's actually wet minerals and not an ocean of fresh water like people think.

A global flood would also explain the universal phenomenon of aquatic life being found on mountaintops:

Already discussed. Plate tectonics. The fossils are from when those mountains were at sea level and the fossils are millions of years old, not 4,000 years old.

Noah's Ark was even found in the mountains of Ararat in Turkey,

Natural rock formation. Nothing more.

They even found the tomb of Noah:

People CLAIMING it's the tomb of Noah. There is nothing to support that.

You took a good stab at it. But it doesn't make it. TRY THIS ....

Egypt, India and China all had vibrant civilizations that grew and flourished before, during, and after the Noahs Ark Flood time period ... UNINTERRUPTED. Explain how all these people were killed off yet at the same time survived and thrived if Noahs Flood really happened. Oh .. and they all spoke and wrote different languages so there goes the 'everyone spoke the same language before the Tower of Babel' nonsense. But that's a discussion for another thread.


Oldest Civilizations in the World - Unbroken Civilization Through Noahs Ark Time Period - Not Wiped Out

Christian site - Christogenea - Noahs Flood Was Not World Wide

If the whole earth was covered by six miles of water, then all nations must have been completely exterminated. However Babylonian, Egyptian and Chinese history runs right through this period without a break. The Bible gives the date of the flood as commencing in 2345 B.C. and ending in 2344 B.C.. In lower Sumer, later called Chaldea, which occupied the same Plains of Shinar to which Noah’s family journeyed after the flood, the city of Ur of the Chaldees was the leading city from about 2400 B.C. until about 2285 B.C.. Its history is not broken by any flood in this period.

Farther to the north, Babylon was rising to power from about 2400 B.C. on and reached a great height of civilization under the famous King Hammurabi, who lived at the same time as the Hebrew patriarch Abraham, about 2250 B.C.. There is no break in this history due to a flood. In Egypt, the eleventh dynasty began to reign about 2375 B.C. over a great and powerful nation. The eleventh dynasty ruled to about 2212 B.C., and was followed by the twelfth dynasty, which ruled to about 2000 B.C.. There was no break in the eleventh dynasty at the time of Noah’s flood, 2345 B.C.. The nation continued to be large and powerful throughout this period.

Accurate history of China begins nearly 3000 B.C. The Shu King historic record of China, shows that King Yao came to the throne in 2356 B.C., 11 years before the start of Noah’s flood, and ruled China for many years after the flood. During the reign of Yao, the Shu King reports that the Hwang Ho river, which drains the mountains and a great basin in Sinkiang province, had excessive floods for three generations. Here again, there was no break in history. The Chinese nation was not wiped out. Its own records show it continued in existence right through the period of Noah’s flood.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
Already discussed and debunked. Flood stories are found in various places in the world but they do not match the Noahs Flood story and floods are going to be a common myth because all cultures deal with water.

These specifically say it was global. Read them:







called “Llocllay Pachacuti” by the Quechua, meaning “universal flood.”

Glaciers. Ice age.. They could travel 2,000 miles from place of origin. read here "The deposited debris can be traced back to the origin by both the nature of the materials released and the continuous path of debris release. Some paths extend more than 3,000 kilometres (1,900 mi) distant from the point at which the ice floes originally broke free.[7]"

How would a glacier push a boulder beyond where the glaciers extended to? That doesn't make sense. That quote you are referring to is likely talking about spans within the glacial region, not miraculously pushing it beyond the glacial bounds.

Already discussed. It's actually wet minerals and not an ocean of fresh water like people think.

of course it's not free-floating water. Just because it is in a region where there are also minerals doesn't mean it couldn't be released to the surface, nor does it negate the researcher saying there is enough volume of water to cover the mountaintops.

"A global flood would also explain the universal phenomenon of aquatic life being found on mountaintops"

Already discussed. Plate tectonics. The fossils are from when those mountains were at sea level and the fossils are millions of years old, not 4,000 years old.

easier for water to rise than for plate tectonics to allow fish fossils to remain on the surface for millions of years as it makes its climb to become Everest. If it were beneath the ocean for millions of years there wouldn't be sparse fish fossils, but rather a whole geological stratum of aquatic life all throughout, which is not observed. Instead, we see rare fish fossils on these mountains, indicating that these regions were only underwater for a short amount of time .

"Noah's Ark was even found in the mountains of Ararat in Turkey"
Natural rock formation. Nothing more.

No it was tested to be petrified wood:

You took a good stab at it. But it doesn't make it. TRY THIS ....

Egypt, India and China all had vibrant civilizations that grew and flourished before, during, and after the Noahs Ark Flood time period ... UNINTERRUPTED. Explain how all these people were killed off yet at the same time survived and thrived if Noahs Flood really happened.

Because the dates attributed to their beginnings are sometimes arbitrarily assigned by modern day researchers. They don't know for certain when a civilization began and will often estimate. Recorded history does agree upon the date of the flood's occurrence, and it is these corroborative accounts that make me believe it is true:




The Hebrew date of 2,304 BC matches closely with the Chinese global flood date:




We can also estimate the date of the global flood as told in the Epic of Gilgamesh. In this Mesopotamian account of the global flood, Gilgamesh was said to have slain the celestial bull


(terra cotta image estimated from between 2,250 - 1,900BC)

The celestial bull is a clear reference to the constellation Taurus. slaying the celestial bull is an allusion to the end of the age of Taurus, which occurred around 2,300BC, which matches the Hebrew account.



The Peruvian global flood account was also recorded by the Incan Historian Fernando de Montesinos to have occurred around 340 years prior to the conclusion of the second sun in 1,957 BC, which is 2,297 BC according to the Gregorian Calendar source. Again, this is very close to the Hebrew, Mesopotamian and Chinese date for the global flood.

These cultures all have someone surviving, otherwise the story could not have been perpetuated. Although some seem to be referring to Noah, such as the Hawaiian reference to "Nu-u"

Oh .. and they all spoke and wrote different languages so there goes the 'everyone spoke the same language before the Tower of Babel' nonsense. But that's a discussion for another thread.

The tower was built soon after the flood. So pretty much 99.9%+ of the entirety of history after the flood was also after the tower of Babel, and therefore the re-telling of these stories would have been in various languages as we see today.

originally posted by: cooperton
These specifically say it was global.

But they don't match the Noahs Flood account. That was the point.

How would a glacier push a boulder beyond where the glaciers extended to?

The information says that it could travel almost 2,000 miles on melting glacier flows.

of course it's not free-floating water. Just because it is in a region where there are also minerals doesn't mean it couldn't be released to the surface, nor does it negate the researcher saying there is enough volume of water to cover the mountaintops.

Not 'also minerals'. The minerals themselves ARE the 'water'. And I know nothing of the 'researcher'. No name, nothing about his credentials, nothing about why he is the only person on the planet to make that statement.

easier for water to rise than for plate tectonics to allow fish fossils to remain on the surface for millions of years as it makes it climb to become Everest. If it were beneath the ocean for millions of years it wouldn't be sparse fish fossils, but rather a whole geological stratum of aquatic life all throughout, which is not observed. Isntead, we see rare fish fossils, indicating that these regions were only underwater for a short amount of time

Dude .. it's PLATE TECTONICS. The fossils are millions of years old, not 4,000. And that's why fish and shells are on mountain tops.

"
No it was tested to be petrified wood:

That's Ron Wyatt. Already discussed him. He's a fraud. Proven liar. He's been denounced by science, biblical archeologists, christian groups, the country of Israel, even his own church. Read through the thread. The information on him is there.

Because the dates attributed to their beginnings are sometimes arbitrarily assigned by modern day researchers. They don't know for certain when a civilization began and will often estimate. Recorded history does agree upon the date of the flood's occurrence:

There isn't anything 'arbitrarily assigned' about the fact that India, Egypt, and China all have ancient civilizations that thrived all through the supposed Noahs Ark time period. The archeology, science, history, mathematics all show without a doubt they started before Noahs Ark flood, thrived through Noahs Ark flood, and continued uninterrupted afterwards.

a reply to: FlyersFan

You’re using unsubstantiated evidence and unsettled archeology.

You said..

Egypt, India and China all had vibrant civilizations that grew and flourished before, during, and after the Noahs Ark Flood time period ... UNINTERRUPTED.

Yet…

China claims to have five thousand years of continuous history. Historians tend to reject this claim. At the heart of this debate lie questions about what History is, how it should be measured, and how it relates to contemporary politics. But who is right? And why does this matter? European Guanxi investigates.

These oracle bones go back to 1200-1700 BCE (Li, 2002), which would make Chinese civilization ‘only’ 3200-3700 years old. This number is still extremely impressive, although it is more than a millennium short of the ‘5000 years’ claim.

www.europeanguanxi.com...

There is also still open debate regarding the age of the various Egyptian dynasties as well.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
But they don't match the Noahs Flood account. That was the point.

They don't match exactly, which shows they didn't merely copy and paste eachother's story. The chart I showed indicates the similarities among the re-tellings of the story. Too many similarities for it to be a coincidence, and enough differences to show it isn't merely a diffusion of a myth:

The information says that it could travel almost 2,000 miles on melting glacier flows.

Even if this outlandish claim is true, it would not be able to travel uphill if it was travelling on glacier flows. Many of these erratics are on high elevations. A flood reaching mountaintops is the only explanation.

Not 'also minerals'. The minerals themselves ARE the 'water'. And I know nothing of the 'researcher'. No name, nothing about his credentials, nothing about why he is the only person on the planet to make that statement.

No, minerals are minerals, water is water. Minerals themselves are not water. The researchers said there is enough water in this layer to cover the whole earth.

Dude .. it's PLATE TECTONICS. The fossils are millions of years old, not 4,000. And that's why fish and shells are on mountain tops.

You missed my point... if these layers were at one point under an ocean for prolonged periods, as you suppose, and then gradually went upwards due to plate tectonics, then the geological layer exhibited in these areas would be rich with aquatic life, not just rare fossils here and there. The reason there are only rare aquatic fossils is because the mountain was only briefly covered during the flood. And also, there's no way for you or anyone to prove those fossils are millions of years old.

That's Ron Wyatt. Already discussed him. He's a fraud. Proven liar. He's been denounced by science, biblical archeologists, christian groups, the country of Israel, even his own church. Read through the thread. The information on him is there.

He found a structure the length of Noah's ark in the area where it was said to have landed and found petrified wood, rivets, and anchors in the area. This is what real science consists of: evidence. Not just dogmatism. Just because lord science says he's a fraud for defying conventional theories doesn't mean they're right

There isn't anything 'arbitrarily assigned' about the fact that India, Egypt, and China all have ancient civilizations that thrived all through the supposed Noahs Ark time period. The archeology, science, history, mathematics all show without a doubt they started before Noahs Ark flood, thrived through Noahs Ark flood, and continued uninterrupted afterwards.

Like Northofstuff said, they are speculating on the start dates for these cultures. Whereas the date for the global flood corroborates between the historical record of the Sumerians, Hebrews, Chinese, and Incans.

originally posted by: NorthOfStuffx2
You’re using unsubstantiated evidence and unsettled archeology.

The evidence is accepted and clear. Egypt, China, and India all have ancient civilizations that started BEFORE Noahs Flood, and were continuing AFTER Noahs flood. Uninterrupted. There was no flood wiping out their civilizations.

a reply to: FlyersFan

No, the evidence is not “accepted and clear” and I just gave you one example.

Your premise is built on sand.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

The evidence is accepted and clear. Egypt, China, and India all have ancient civilizations that started BEFORE Noahs Flood, and were continuing AFTER Noahs flood. Uninterrupted. There was no flood wiping out their civilizations.

If the evidence is clear, show the Egyptian records that unambiguously span through this timeframe

originally posted by: cooperton
Too many similarities for it to be a coincidence:

You are free to think that but any similarities are a coincidence.
They do not match the Noahs flood story. It's not the same.

Even if this outlandish claim is true, it would not be able to travel uphill if it was merely travelling on glacier flows. Many of these erratics are on high elevations. A flood is the only explanation.

It's not outlandish. Certainly the Noahs Flood story is what is outlandish.
All the science says glacial movement for erratic boulders.

No, minerals are minerals, water is water. Minerals themselves are not water. The researchers said there is enough water in this layer to cover the whole earth.

The 'water' is 'wet minerals'. Not sweet water.

You missed my point... if these layers were at one point under an ocean for prolonged periods, and then gradually went upwards due to plate tectonics, then the geological layer exhibited in these areas would be rich with aquatic life, not just rare fossils here and there. The reason there are only rare aquatic fossils is because the mountain was only briefly covered during the flood.

Very few animals and plants actually become fossils. there is no expectation of 'rich with aquatic life' simply because some area is underwater for a long period of time.

And also, there's no way for you to prove those fossils are millions of years old.

That's how long it takes for fossils to be made. Millions of years. Not 4,000.
National Geographic. Fossils

Crazy he found structure the length of Noah's ark in the area where it was said to have landed just to fake finding petrified wood, rivets, and anchors in the area. Lol but lord science says he's a fraud for defying conventional theories, therefore he must be a fraud.

He's a proven fraud. Read the thread.

they are speculating on the start dates for these cultures.

Based on archeology and science.

Whereas the date for the global flood corroborates between the historical record of the Sumerians, Hebrews, Chinese, and Incans.

The Sumerians and Hebrews have the same time period because the Hebrews borrowed the Sumerian Giglimesh story and reworked it making it their own. The Chinese and Incans do not have the same date. The same rough time period, but that's because the cultures were in a similar status.

originally posted by: cooperton
If the evidence is clear, show the Egyptian records that unambiguously span through this timeframe

I gave the synopsis.

Oldest Civilizations in the World - Unbroken Civilization Through Noahs Ark Time Period - Not Wiped Out

Christian site - Christogenea - Noahs Flood Was Not World Wide

If the whole earth was covered by six miles of water, then all nations must have been completely exterminated. However Babylonian, Egyptian and Chinese history runs right through this period without a break. The Bible gives the date of the flood as commencing in 2345 B.C. and ending in 2344 B.C.. In lower Sumer, later called Chaldea, which occupied the same Plains of Shinar to which Noah’s family journeyed after the flood, the city of Ur of the Chaldees was the leading city from about 2400 B.C. until about 2285 B.C.. Its history is not broken by any flood in this period.

Farther to the north, Babylon was rising to power from about 2400 B.C. on and reached a great height of civilization under the famous King Hammurabi, who lived at the same time as the Hebrew patriarch Abraham, about 2250 B.C.. There is no break in this history due to a flood. In Egypt, the eleventh dynasty began to reign about 2375 B.C. over a great and powerful nation. The eleventh dynasty ruled to about 2212 B.C., and was followed by the twelfth dynasty, which ruled to about 2000 B.C.. There was no break in the eleventh dynasty at the time of Noah’s flood, 2345 B.C.. The nation continued to be large and powerful throughout this period.

Accurate history of China begins nearly 3000 B.C. The Shu King historic record of China, shows that King Yao came to the throne in 2356 B.C., 11 years before the start of Noah’s flood, and ruled China for many years after the flood. During the reign of Yao, the Shu King reports that the Hwang Ho river, which drains the mountains and a great basin in Sinkiang province, had excessive floods for three generations. Here again, there was no break in history. The Chinese nation was not wiped out. Its own records show it continued in existence right through the period of Noah’s flood.

Reposting for those who didn't read the thread.

For anyone who actually believes the hoaxer Ron Wyatt

Fake News in Biblical Archaeology

a) Ron Wyatt was not an archaeologist (he was a nurse anesthetist). This, in and of itself does not mean that he could not make a discovery. Many archaeological digs have volunteers helping them; some of these volunteers even make important discoveries. The interpretation of the discovery is done by trained archaeologists, however. One archaeologist has said archaeology is 10% excavation and 90% interpretation. Ron Wyatt had no training to interpret the discoveries he says he made.

b) Ron Wyatt was never carried out a systematic excavation that was licensed by the Israeli government. Joe Zias, the former Curator of Archaeology and Anthropology for the Israel Antiquities Authority said, “Mr. Ron Wyatt is neither an archaeologist nor has he ever carried out a legally licensed excavation in Israel or Jerusalem…We are aware of his claims which border on the absurd as they have no scientific basis whatsoever nor have they ever been published in a professional journal. They fall into the category of trash which one finds in tabloids such as the National Enquirer, Sun etc. It’s amazing that anyone would believe them.”2

c) Ron Wyatt never published any of his supposed finds in a peer-reviewed archaeological journal. Publishing something in your own newsletter or on your own website does not pass the checks-and-balances peer-review. Dr. Scott Stripling, the Director of Excavations at Shiloh, led by the Associates for Biblical Research, says that the goal of archaeology is not excavation, but publication.

d) Ron Wyatt never made any of his supposed discoveries available for trained archaeologists to examine.

e) Ron Wyatt never adequately addressed inconsistencies in some of his stories, such as how he discovered the supposed chariot wheels at a depth of 200 feet using scuba equipment designed for depths of 125-130 feet.

f) Marine biologist, Dr. Robert Carter has pointed out numerous problems identifying the coral-encrusted structures Ron Wyatt found as chariot wheels, including the fact that “many species of coral will grow a large, flat plate on a stalk-like projection, giving the appearance of an axle and wheel to those not accustomed to coral growth forms.”3

f) People, like respected geologist John Baumgartner, who knew Ron Wyatt and worked closely with him, have testified that he was dishonest with his discoveries, misrepresented the views of others, and intentionally deceived people.

The list of fantastical discoveries should, in and of itself, raise questions about any discovery Ron Wyatt claimed to have made. This didn’t stop his “discovery” of chariot wheels spreading. It has been repeated in articles and books and documentaries though. In actual fact, Ron Wyatt’s work has universally debunked by respected archaeologists and scholars. In fact, even two ministers in his own denomination (Seven Day Adventist) wrote an entire book called, “Holy Relics or Revelation: Examining the claims of Ron Wyatt” and concluded that his work was largely a hoax.

The reality is that the Associates for Biblical Research (www.BibleArchaeology.org), a group of Christian archaeologists and scholars who are dedicated to demonstrating the historical reliability of Scripture, often promote the findings of other archaeologists who have made legitimate discoveries in a controlled archaeological excavation. The reason they do not promote Ron Wyatt’s work has nothing to do with professional jealousy; it has everything to do his unsubstantiated, unscholarly, and, quite possibly, fraudulent claims.

Ron Wyatt Fake Vision of Jesus

Elsewhere Wyatt claimed that an angel prohibited him from providing the details of his phenomenal discovery! (HRR, 70, 90, 285). There also were other accounts of angelic appearances and even a claim of seeing Christ (HRR, 127ff).

Incidentally, the reason Wyatt knew he saw Jesus was because the Lord "was dressed exactly as Ellen White"

Incidentally, the reason Wyatt knew he saw Jesus was because the Lord “was dressed exactly as Ellen White saw Him in vision, with the blue border at the hem of his garment”! Ellen White was the founder of the SDA church.

Ron Wyatt Honest or Deceitful Fraud? - Read Here About His Blood of Jesus Hoax

From a Pro-Christian Site Named 'Evidence for Christianity' - Advice Against Believing Ron Wyatt

Question:

I heard about discovery of Jesus’ blood on the ark of covenant by Ryan Watt. He concluded they found Jesus’ blood ….when they tested this blood the results were that Jesus’ blood is still alive today, and it has 24 chromosomes: 23 from his mother and 1 from the Holy Spirit which proves the virgin birth. The 23 chromosomes helps to form a baby and the father’s chromosomes decides gender of a baby, But Watt claims in Jesus’ blood they found an extra chromosome. Is this discovery of Jesus’ blood reliable? If not …why not? Also, I saw a recent you tube channel which also concluded Jesus’ blood is still alive. Is this true? What do you say sir?

Answer:

I assume you mean Ron Wyatt. Unfortunately this man is a completely unreliable witness. He has been known to fake data, the use pictures from out of context–to flat out lie. He has done this again and again. He is a charlatan and a self-serving self-promoter, and Christians would do well to not use any of his material. We need to learn to be more discerning and to ask hard questions of those who make claims, even when they seem to support Christian belief. A good rule of thumb on claims by Christians or anyone else: If it is too good to be true, then it is probably too good to be true! This certainly applies to this totally bogus claim about finding actual blood of Jesus!

I have a personal friend who confronted Wyatt face-to-face. He asked him how he could write such obviously false claims. His response (paraphrased), “I have to make money somehow.” I strongly urge you to not use Wyatt’s material and if you have published anything on line, you should take it down and perhaps apologize for putting out unreliable material.

Why is this claim not reliable? First of all, because the person making the claim is a know repeat liar and charlatan. Also, because the idea that the blood of Jesus could be found, or that it could have been preserved for nearly two thousand years is absolutely absurd. The DNA in blood degrades within a few days except in extremely rare circumstances, none of which would ever apply to the blood of Jesus. Again, I strongly advise you to be more skeptical (although you did the right thing to send the question!)

Ron Wyatt did NOT find Noahs Ark, Noahs Grave, nor Mrs. Noahs grave.
He's a fraud.

"One of the greatest frauds the field of biblical archeology has ever seen"

Rapture Ready - Was Ron Wyatt an Archeological Fraud

FAQ :: Was Ron Wyatt an archeological fraud?
Amateur archeologist Ron Wyatt is known for making sensational claims regarding alleged discoveries of biblical sites and artifacts. His claims were so fanciful and plentiful, it would seem logical to ask Ron if he had yet unearthed Jesus’ High School diploma. Wyatt most bizarre discovery has to be when he claimed to have found the blood of Christ and a DNA analysis of that blood indicates Christ was born of a virgin. (Wyatt died in 1999 of natural causes.)Here are some more of his supposed amazing discoveries: The true site of the crucifixion; the Ark of the Covenant; the true Mount Sinai (with a plaque announcing it as such); the site of Korah’s earthquake; the true site of the Israelites’ Red Sea crossing also with a marker “built by King Solomon” as a memorial; Chariot wheels from Pharaoh’s drowned army; the actual rock Moses struck to release water; the ashen remains of Sodom and Gomorrah; Noah’s Ark; Noah’s grave; Noah’s house; Mrs. Noah’s grave; Moses’ stone tablets containing the Ten Commandments, held together with golden hinges.

Although it took several years for reality to set in, most Christian ministries finally disavowed Wyatt’s work. The only true believers remaining are ones who continue to financially benefit from promoting his videos.

Ron was either a fabricator or he was delusional, but whatever the case may be, he was clearly one of the greatest frauds the field of Bible prophecy has ever seen. Wyatt’s years of research may amount to nothing more than garbage, however, he did help prove that some Christians are unlimited in their gullibility.