Children on puberty blockers saw mental health change - new analysis

originally posted by: Irishhaf
Are people really comparing ear piercings to a drug that quite often results in sterilization?

yea we deserve an asteroid strike.

No, the underlying discussion was not comparing what you think it was comparing.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AlienBorg

I am of the view if science and medicine are not influenced by politics and political activism then the results will be revealing what most of us know by now, that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for the mental and physical health of children. The same is true for the so-called 'gender affirming care' for minors now banned in many states and has been made illegal.

I think most people with a brain know that the brain is extremely fragile in the early years as the brain and body are still growing and evolving. Smoking Pot at 12 would have huge negative effects that could easily be lifelong compared to someone at 20 that did the same thing. Even diet has profound effects on kids, so why would anyone think that messing with the normal puberty cycle would not have some serious consequences?

The gender ideologues and trans activists don't really think it's a problem. Otherwise how can they support their ideology?

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AlienBorg

I am of the view if science and medicine are not influenced by politics and political activism then the results will be revealing what most of us know by now, that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for the mental and physical health of children. The same is true for the so-called 'gender affirming care' for minors now banned in many states and has been made illegal.

I think most people with a brain know that the brain is extremely fragile in the early years as the brain and body are still growing and evolving. Smoking Pot at 12 would have huge negative effects that could easily be lifelong compared to someone at 20 that did the same thing. Even diet has profound effects on kids, so why would anyone think that messing with the normal puberty cycle would not have some serious consequences?

The gender ideologues and trans activists don't really think it's a problem. Otherwise how can they support their ideology?

That's not it at all. All those involved in the treatment of kids with gender dysphoria, and they are low numbers, have rigorously gone through targeted psychological assessments while following these kids for years, only then does the parent, child and all medical professionals combined make careful decisions to proceed with puberty blockers (which do not cause infertility). They are not supporting an ideology they are helping and treating gender dysphoria in children who may or may not be at risk.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AlienBorg

I am of the view if science and medicine are not influenced by politics and political activism then the results will be revealing what most of us know by now, that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for the mental and physical health of children. The same is true for the so-called 'gender affirming care' for minors now banned in many states and has been made illegal.

I think most people with a brain know that the brain is extremely fragile in the early years as the brain and body are still growing and evolving. Smoking Pot at 12 would have huge negative effects that could easily be lifelong compared to someone at 20 that did the same thing. Even diet has profound effects on kids, so why would anyone think that messing with the normal puberty cycle would not have some serious consequences?

The gender ideologues and trans activists don't really think it's a problem. Otherwise how can they support their ideology?

That's not it at all. All those involved in the treatment of kids with gender dysphoria, and they are low numbers, have rigorously gone through targeted psychological assessments while following these kids for years, only then does the parent, child and all medical professionals combined make careful decisions to proceed with puberty blockers (which do not cause infertility). They are not supporting an ideology they are helping and treating gender dysphoria in children who may or may not be at risk.

Gender dysphoria is a mental health issue which can't be treated with hormones or 'puberty blockers' or body part mutilations. It's great many states recognised the issue and made it illegal.

Children with gender dysphoria are not at risk as you say. You equate gender dysphoria with cancer? Or you think it's a terminal condition?

a reply to: AlienBorg

Cancer is what all these children will be having as adults with the medical drugs and hormones.

The ugly reality of chemical castration, now been renamed to puberty blockers

What are the side effects of chemical castration?
Side effects of chemical castration can include:

reduced or absent sexual desire
erectile dysfunction (ED)
shrinkage of testicles and penis
fatigue
hot flashes
breast tenderness and growth of breast tissue (gynecomastia)
Over the long term, chemical castration may also lead to:

osteoporosis
impaired glucose
depression
infertility
anemia
loss of muscle mass
weight gain
According to a 2013 research reviewTrusted Source, side effects and complications may increase the longer you’re in treatment. Your doctor may recommend other therapies to prevent or ease these side effects.

Other potential risks
There are also concerns that men treated with hormone therapy may be at an increased risk of:

diabetes
high blood pressure
stroke
heart attack
problems with thinking, concentration, and memory
According to the American Cancer SocietyTrusted Source, not all studies have reached the same conclusions about these risks. More research is needed to fully understand the relationship between chemical castration and these conditions.

Yep this what the trans cult wants to subject our children too, only a mad people will want to do this to any child.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AlienBorg

I am of the view if science and medicine are not influenced by politics and political activism then the results will be revealing what most of us know by now, that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for the mental and physical health of children. The same is true for the so-called 'gender affirming care' for minors now banned in many states and has been made illegal.

I think most people with a brain know that the brain is extremely fragile in the early years as the brain and body are still growing and evolving. Smoking Pot at 12 would have huge negative effects that could easily be lifelong compared to someone at 20 that did the same thing. Even diet has profound effects on kids, so why would anyone think that messing with the normal puberty cycle would not have some serious consequences?

The gender ideologues and trans activists don't really think it's a problem. Otherwise how can they support their ideology?

That's not it at all. All those involved in the treatment of kids with gender dysphoria, and they are low numbers, have rigorously gone through targeted psychological assessments while following these kids for years, only then does the parent, child and all medical professionals combined make careful decisions to proceed with puberty blockers (which do not cause infertility). They are not supporting an ideology they are helping and treating gender dysphoria in children who may or may not be at risk.

Gender dysphoria is a mental health issue which can't be treated with hormones or 'puberty blockers' or body part mutilations. It's great many states recognised the issue and made it illegal.

Children with gender dysphoria are not at risk as you say. You equate gender dysphoria with cancer? Or you think it's a terminal condition?

NO

It’s innate: existing in, belonging to, or determined by factors present in an individual from birth :

You accept autism as real.
You accept gender dysphoria as real.

But reject transgender. That is a personal choice, because for whatever reason, in your mind you can’t accept it.

Yet all three — autism, gender dysphoria, transgender are innate.

a reply to: Terpene

Wrong on all points.

But nothing new there.

We just want kids to hit an age where they understand the trade off, and to give them time to see if this is legit or a phase.

Opinions are changing among the doctors that maybe they made mistakes and most kids would grow to accept who they are.

You know follow the science.

a reply to: Irishhaf

What points exactly were they?

And where exactly did they not follow that protocol?

Shouldn't be hard to find an actual source, or is this just some fantasie of yours?

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: Irishhaf

What points exactly were they?

And where exactly did they not follow that protocol?

Shouldn't be hard to find an actual source, or is this just some fantasie of yours?

This is a good article.

What the experts are actually saying is — if there’s no history before a certain age — it’s suspicious.

Nothing to do with banning care with known history.

www.tabletmag.com...

a reply to: Annee

It says the amount of people that actually fulfill the Dutch protocol is so low no conclusion can be drawn yet.

Kind of the whole joke about this trans critique rouse...

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AlienBorg

I am of the view if science and medicine are not influenced by politics and political activism then the results will be revealing what most of us know by now, that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for the mental and physical health of children. The same is true for the so-called 'gender affirming care' for minors now banned in many states and has been made illegal.

I think most people with a brain know that the brain is extremely fragile in the early years as the brain and body are still growing and evolving. Smoking Pot at 12 would have huge negative effects that could easily be lifelong compared to someone at 20 that did the same thing. Even diet has profound effects on kids, so why would anyone think that messing with the normal puberty cycle would not have some serious consequences?

The gender ideologues and trans activists don't really think it's a problem. Otherwise how can they support their ideology?

That's not it at all. All those involved in the treatment of kids with gender dysphoria, and they are low numbers, have rigorously gone through targeted psychological assessments while following these kids for years, only then does the parent, child and all medical professionals combined make careful decisions to proceed with puberty blockers (which do not cause infertility). They are not supporting an ideology they are helping and treating gender dysphoria in children who may or may not be at risk.

Gender dysphoria is a mental health issue which can't be treated with hormones or 'puberty blockers' or body part mutilations. It's great many states recognised the issue and made it illegal.

Children with gender dysphoria are not at risk as you say. You equate gender dysphoria with cancer? Or you think it's a terminal condition?

NO

It’s innate: existing in, belonging to, or determined by factors present in an individual from birth :

You accept autism as real.
You accept gender dysphoria as real.

But reject transgender. That is a personal choice, because for whatever reason, in your mind you can’t accept it.

Yet all three — autism, gender dysphoria, transgender are innate.

Yes as there can't be anyone who transitions between genders. It's physically impossible.

There is no such thing in biology as a transgender. It's a political term.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AlienBorg

I am of the view if science and medicine are not influenced by politics and political activism then the results will be revealing what most of us know by now, that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for the mental and physical health of children. The same is true for the so-called 'gender affirming care' for minors now banned in many states and has been made illegal.

I think most people with a brain know that the brain is extremely fragile in the early years as the brain and body are still growing and evolving. Smoking Pot at 12 would have huge negative effects that could easily be lifelong compared to someone at 20 that did the same thing. Even diet has profound effects on kids, so why would anyone think that messing with the normal puberty cycle would not have some serious consequences?

The gender ideologues and trans activists don't really think it's a problem. Otherwise how can they support their ideology?

That's not it at all. All those involved in the treatment of kids with gender dysphoria, and they are low numbers, have rigorously gone through targeted psychological assessments while following these kids for years, only then does the parent, child and all medical professionals combined make careful decisions to proceed with puberty blockers (which do not cause infertility). They are not supporting an ideology they are helping and treating gender dysphoria in children who may or may not be at risk.

Gender dysphoria is a mental health issue which can't be treated with hormones or 'puberty blockers' or body part mutilations. It's great many states recognised the issue and made it illegal.

Children with gender dysphoria are not at risk as you say. You equate gender dysphoria with cancer? Or you think it's a terminal condition?

NO

It’s innate: existing in, belonging to, or determined by factors present in an individual from birth :

You accept autism as real.
You accept gender dysphoria as real.

But reject transgender. That is a personal choice, because for whatever reason, in your mind you can’t accept it.

Yet all three — autism, gender dysphoria, transgender are innate.

Yes as there can be anyone who transition between genders. It's physically impossible.

There is no such thing in biology as a transgender. It's a political term.

Not one person discussing transgender has claimed physical sex can be changed.

However, I can’t even count how many times it’s been explained to you that sex and gender are 2 separate things — in detail.

You just “slam the door shut” to accepting any “facts per actual transgender”.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AlienBorg

I am of the view if science and medicine are not influenced by politics and political activism then the results will be revealing what most of us know by now, that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for the mental and physical health of children. The same is true for the so-called 'gender affirming care' for minors now banned in many states and has been made illegal.

I think most people with a brain know that the brain is extremely fragile in the early years as the brain and body are still growing and evolving. Smoking Pot at 12 would have huge negative effects that could easily be lifelong compared to someone at 20 that did the same thing. Even diet has profound effects on kids, so why would anyone think that messing with the normal puberty cycle would not have some serious consequences?

The gender ideologues and trans activists don't really think it's a problem. Otherwise how can they support their ideology?

That's not it at all. All those involved in the treatment of kids with gender dysphoria, and they are low numbers, have rigorously gone through targeted psychological assessments while following these kids for years, only then does the parent, child and all medical professionals combined make careful decisions to proceed with puberty blockers (which do not cause infertility). They are not supporting an ideology they are helping and treating gender dysphoria in children who may or may not be at risk.

Gender dysphoria is a mental health issue which can't be treated with hormones or 'puberty blockers' or body part mutilations. It's great many states recognised the issue and made it illegal.

Children with gender dysphoria are not at risk as you say. You equate gender dysphoria with cancer? Or you think it's a terminal condition?

NO

It’s innate: existing in, belonging to, or determined by factors present in an individual from birth :

You accept autism as real.
You accept gender dysphoria as real.

But reject transgender. That is a personal choice, because for whatever reason, in your mind you can’t accept it.

Yet all three — autism, gender dysphoria, transgender are innate.

Yes as there can be anyone who transition between genders. It's physically impossible.

There is no such thing in biology as a transgender. It's a political term.

Not one person discussing transgender has claimed physical sex can be changed.

However, I can’t even count how many times it’s been explained to you that sex and gender are 2 separate things — in detail.

You just “slam the door shut” to accepting any “facts per actual transgender”.

No they're not.
Gender and sex are the same with gender being a synonymous term describing sex and to have been exploited by the trans lobby.

Everyone knows what gender is and there are only 2 of them M and F corresponding to XY and XX respectively.

I do accept that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for kids and as stated in the article many of them saw their mental health deteriorate after using them.

a reply to: AdifferentOpinion

How many parents of kids middle school age thru uni do you know?

Do you have children?How old? Adolescents in huge numbers are reporting themselves as trans to their friends, teachers and sometimes parents nationwide. Girls in particular.

There are tons of parents that know more about this FAD than you do. its causing problems in families nationwide.

And maybe that's why they are just a bit upset at the folks putting this crap in their kids heads.

The same way that the trans cult wants to groom children with gender choice in schools, it should be mandatory for the schools to show the children the horrors of castration and chemical drugs induce treatments.

I am sure that a couple of pictures of mutilated organs will be enough to made keep their born gender.: devil:

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AlienBorg

I am of the view if science and medicine are not influenced by politics and political activism then the results will be revealing what most of us know by now, that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for the mental and physical health of children. The same is true for the so-called 'gender affirming care' for minors now banned in many states and has been made illegal.

I think most people with a brain know that the brain is extremely fragile in the early years as the brain and body are still growing and evolving. Smoking Pot at 12 would have huge negative effects that could easily be lifelong compared to someone at 20 that did the same thing. Even diet has profound effects on kids, so why would anyone think that messing with the normal puberty cycle would not have some serious consequences?

The gender ideologues and trans activists don't really think it's a problem. Otherwise how can they support their ideology?

That's not it at all. All those involved in the treatment of kids with gender dysphoria, and they are low numbers, have rigorously gone through targeted psychological assessments while following these kids for years, only then does the parent, child and all medical professionals combined make careful decisions to proceed with puberty blockers (which do not cause infertility). They are not supporting an ideology they are helping and treating gender dysphoria in children who may or may not be at risk.

Gender dysphoria is a mental health issue which can't be treated with hormones or 'puberty blockers' or body part mutilations. It's great many states recognised the issue and made it illegal.

Children with gender dysphoria are not at risk as you say. You equate gender dysphoria with cancer? Or you think it's a terminal condition?

NO

It’s innate: existing in, belonging to, or determined by factors present in an individual from birth :

You accept autism as real.
You accept gender dysphoria as real.

But reject transgender. That is a personal choice, because for whatever reason, in your mind you can’t accept it.

Yet all three — autism, gender dysphoria, transgender are innate.

Yes as there can be anyone who transition between genders. It's physically impossible.

There is no such thing in biology as a transgender. It's a political term.

Not one person discussing transgender has claimed physical sex can be changed.

However, I can’t even count how many times it’s been explained to you that sex and gender are 2 separate things — in detail.

You just “slam the door shut” to accepting any “facts per actual transgender”.

No they're not.
Gender and sex are the same with gender being a synonymous term describing sex and to have been exploited by the trans lobby.

Everyone knows what gender is and there are only 2 of them M and F corresponding to XY and XX respectively.

I do accept that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for kids and as stated in the article many of them saw their mental health deteriorate after using them.

Because, of course, you know more than actual transgenders.

Your selected articles have been debunked.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AlienBorg

I am of the view if science and medicine are not influenced by politics and political activism then the results will be revealing what most of us know by now, that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for the mental and physical health of children. The same is true for the so-called 'gender affirming care' for minors now banned in many states and has been made illegal.

I think most people with a brain know that the brain is extremely fragile in the early years as the brain and body are still growing and evolving. Smoking Pot at 12 would have huge negative effects that could easily be lifelong compared to someone at 20 that did the same thing. Even diet has profound effects on kids, so why would anyone think that messing with the normal puberty cycle would not have some serious consequences?

The gender ideologues and trans activists don't really think it's a problem. Otherwise how can they support their ideology?

That's not it at all. All those involved in the treatment of kids with gender dysphoria, and they are low numbers, have rigorously gone through targeted psychological assessments while following these kids for years, only then does the parent, child and all medical professionals combined make careful decisions to proceed with puberty blockers (which do not cause infertility). They are not supporting an ideology they are helping and treating gender dysphoria in children who may or may not be at risk.

Gender dysphoria is a mental health issue which can't be treated with hormones or 'puberty blockers' or body part mutilations. It's great many states recognised the issue and made it illegal.

Children with gender dysphoria are not at risk as you say. You equate gender dysphoria with cancer? Or you think it's a terminal condition?

NO

It’s innate: existing in, belonging to, or determined by factors present in an individual from birth :

You accept autism as real.
You accept gender dysphoria as real.

But reject transgender. That is a personal choice, because for whatever reason, in your mind you can’t accept it.

Yet all three — autism, gender dysphoria, transgender are innate.

Yes as there can be anyone who transition between genders. It's physically impossible.

There is no such thing in biology as a transgender. It's a political term.

Not one person discussing transgender has claimed physical sex can be changed.

However, I can’t even count how many times it’s been explained to you that sex and gender are 2 separate things — in detail.

You just “slam the door shut” to accepting any “facts per actual transgender”.

No they're not.
Gender and sex are the same with gender being a synonymous term describing sex and to have been exploited by the trans lobby.

Everyone knows what gender is and there are only 2 of them M and F corresponding to XY and XX respectively.

I do accept that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for kids and as stated in the article many of them saw their mental health deteriorate after using them.

Because, of course, you know more than actual transgenders.

Your selected articles have been debunked.

What selected articles?!

What has been debunked it's the transgender ideology altogether.

The paper is clear and if you would like to deny it's finding it's your choice. Children on 'puberty blockers' can have mental health deterioration.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AlienBorg

I am of the view if science and medicine are not influenced by politics and political activism then the results will be revealing what most of us know by now, that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for the mental and physical health of children. The same is true for the so-called 'gender affirming care' for minors now banned in many states and has been made illegal.

I think most people with a brain know that the brain is extremely fragile in the early years as the brain and body are still growing and evolving. Smoking Pot at 12 would have huge negative effects that could easily be lifelong compared to someone at 20 that did the same thing. Even diet has profound effects on kids, so why would anyone think that messing with the normal puberty cycle would not have some serious consequences?

The gender ideologues and trans activists don't really think it's a problem. Otherwise how can they support their ideology?

That's not it at all. All those involved in the treatment of kids with gender dysphoria, and they are low numbers, have rigorously gone through targeted psychological assessments while following these kids for years, only then does the parent, child and all medical professionals combined make careful decisions to proceed with puberty blockers (which do not cause infertility). They are not supporting an ideology they are helping and treating gender dysphoria in children who may or may not be at risk.

Gender dysphoria is a mental health issue which can't be treated with hormones or 'puberty blockers' or body part mutilations. It's great many states recognised the issue and made it illegal.

Children with gender dysphoria are not at risk as you say. You equate gender dysphoria with cancer? Or you think it's a terminal condition?

NO

It’s innate: existing in, belonging to, or determined by factors present in an individual from birth :

You accept autism as real.
You accept gender dysphoria as real.

But reject transgender. That is a personal choice, because for whatever reason, in your mind you can’t accept it.

Yet all three — autism, gender dysphoria, transgender are innate.

Yes as there can be anyone who transition between genders. It's physically impossible.

There is no such thing in biology as a transgender. It's a political term.

Not one person discussing transgender has claimed physical sex can be changed.

However, I can’t even count how many times it’s been explained to you that sex and gender are 2 separate things — in detail.

You just “slam the door shut” to accepting any “facts per actual transgender”.

No they're not.
Gender and sex are the same with gender being a synonymous term describing sex and to have been exploited by the trans lobby.

Everyone knows what gender is and there are only 2 of them M and F corresponding to XY and XX respectively.

I do accept that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for kids and as stated in the article many of them saw their mental health deteriorate after using them.

Because, of course, you know more than actual transgenders.

Your selected articles have been debunked.

What selected articles?!

What has been debunked it's the transgender ideology altogether.

The paper is clear and if you would like to deny it's finding it's your choice. Children on 'puberty blockers' can have mental health deterioration.

These are the ne-analyzed stats from the same study of 44 subjects: (from your source)

34% deteriorate
29% improve
37% no change

And those who re-analyzed the original study said they did not know the how nor whys.

Don't you find that ridiculous?

a reply to: quintessentone

That's complete BS and you know it.

They prescribe puberty blockers after the first meeting with these commies.

They're openly admitting this.

The vast majority of these kids do not have gender disphoria. They're just kids with sh!tty parents and/or pedo groomer teachers. That psychologically abuse and groom them into believing this BS.

The backlash from this practice in the next 5-10 years from these poor kids is going to be very ugly.

The murder-suicide rates are going to skyrocket.