Children on puberty blockers saw mental health change - new analysis

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: quintessentone

That's complete BS and you know it.

They prescribe puberty blockers after the first meeting with these commies.

They're openly admitting this.

The vast majority of these kids do not have gender disphoria. They're just kids with sh!tty parents and/or pedo groomer teachers. That psychologically abuse and groom them into believing this BS.

The backlash from this practice in the next 5-10 years from these poor kids is going to be very ugly.

The murder-suicide rates are going to skyrocket.

Well the studies I read ALL the kids have to be diagnoses with gender dysphoria actually now named gender incongruence which is not a mental disorder but rather a mental condition, so ALL will have a mental condition that needs treating, not a mental illness and each child has individual treatments plans because the medical profs know their stuff, whereas you don't.

a reply to: quintessentone

Yes its a new word to throw everyone off. It means gender dysphoria or gender confusion.

Those are the folks that don't know what a woman or a man is and believe they can chose the opposite of what their DNA says they are.

If you are here to learnz me something else, I'd say you are wrong. you are here to gaslight us.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

Yes its a new word to throw everyone off. It means gender dysphoria or gender confusion.

Those are the folks that don't know what a woman or a man is and believe they can chose the opposite of what their DNA says they are.

Whether or not it's a choice, confusion, brain structure/chemistry/hormones or whatever...more studies need to be done (which are right now) on larger groups of children because this needs a deeper understanding. Doing nothing for those at risk kids is akin to malpractice.

a reply to: quintessentone

What about the ones that are playing games with their parents, keeping up with the cool kids, trying to cause problems, looking for attention..... Are they going to try todetermine that very very substantially large group?

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

What about the ones that are playing games with their parents, keeping up with the cool kids, trying to cause problems, looking for attention..... Are they going to try todetermine that very very substantially large group?

You know that's a possibility. I read where girls don't like being girls in this society where girls are still subjected to 'objectification' 'inequalities' etc. So maybe that's the tomboy scenario taken to the extreme level, who knows. These kids need psychological assessments to figure out what's going on and the medical professionals working in this field still haven't got a handle on every mental, emotional or personality disorder possibility.

a reply to: quintessentone

When they figure out how to explain the mass hysteria behind an adolescent/teen FAD they might also figure out how to stop feeding into destructive ones.....like this trans one.

a reply to: quintessentone

Reality bypassed you a long time ago.

You're living in pedo Kool-aid land.

Karma is a bitch. You may want to prepare yourself.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

When they figure out how to explain the mass hysteria behind an adolescent/teen FAD they might also figure out how to stop feeding into destructive ones.....like this trans one.

Within the gender incongruence there is the transgender element and maybe the newer studies with neurobiologics will show there is something that can explain this. Even though the earlier studies already proved that transgender brains are structured more to the gender they felt/believed they are.

I actually found a Pride site asking for neuroscience articles (a repository if you will) so I'll keep an eye for newer studies.

www.frontiersin.org...

originally posted by: quintessentone

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I am of the view if science and medicine are not influenced by politics and political activism then the results will be revealing what most of us know by now, that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for the mental and physical health of children. The same is true for the so-called 'gender affirming care' for minors now banned in many states and has been made illegal.

I think most people with a brain know that the brain is extremely fragile in the early years as the brain and body are still growing and evolving. Smoking Pot at 12 would have huge negative effects that could easily be lifelong compared to someone at 20 that did the same thing. Even diet has profound effects on kids, so why would anyone think that messing with the normal puberty cycle would not have some serious consequences?

The gender ideologues and trans activists don't really think it's a problem. Otherwise how can they support their ideology?

That's not it at all. All those involved in the treatment of kids with gender dysphoria, and they are low numbers, have rigorously gone through targeted psychological assessments while following these kids for years, only then does the parent, child and all medical professionals combined make careful decisions to proceed with puberty blockers (which do not cause infertility). They are not supporting an ideology they are helping and treating gender dysphoria in children who may or may not be at risk.

Gender dysphoria is a mental health issue which can't be treated with hormones or 'puberty blockers' or body part mutilations. It's great many states recognised the issue and made it illegal.

Children with gender dysphoria are not at risk as you say. You equate gender dysphoria with cancer? Or you think it's a terminal condition?

NO

It’s innate: existing in, belonging to, or determined by factors present in an individual from birth :

You accept autism as real.
You accept gender dysphoria as real.

But reject transgender. That is a personal choice, because for whatever reason, in your mind you can’t accept it.

Yet all three — autism, gender dysphoria, transgender are innate.

Yes as there can be anyone who transition between genders. It's physically impossible.

There is no such thing in biology as a transgender. It's a political term.

Not one person discussing transgender has claimed physical sex can be changed.

However, I can’t even count how many times it’s been explained to you that sex and gender are 2 separate things — in detail.

You just “slam the door shut” to accepting any “facts per actual transgender”.

No they're not.
Gender and sex are the same with gender being a synonymous term describing sex and to have been exploited by the trans lobby.

Everyone knows what gender is and there are only 2 of them M and F corresponding to XY and XX respectively.

I do accept that 'puberty blockers' are harmful for kids and as stated in the article many of them saw their mental health deteriorate after using them.

Because, of course, you know more than actual transgenders.

Your selected articles have been debunked.

What selected articles?!

What has been debunked it's the transgender ideology altogether.

The paper is clear and if you would like to deny it's finding it's your choice. Children on 'puberty blockers' can have mental health deterioration.

These are the ne-analyzed stats from the same study of 44 subjects: (from your source)

34% deteriorate
29% improve
37% no change

And those who re-analyzed the original study said they did not know the how nor whys.

Don't you find that ridiculous?

No I don't find anything ridiculous from this re-analysis

What is ridiculous are the earliest interpretations of the same study that revealed no psychological changes in children when clearly there are a lot.

And even more ridiculous the Dutch study earlier that showed positive changes and mental improvement.

But when you don't have the politics and activists involved what you get is what we all know, 'puberty blockers' are causing harm for children, both mental and physical.

I posted this study a while ago but it got lost in the shuffle, or ignored, or both. Or trampled on.

"Epigenetics Is Implicated in the Basis of Gender Incongruence: An Epigenome-Wide Association Analysis"

www.frontiersin.org...

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a reply to: AlienBorg

It's statistical analysis and re-analysis where both study teams don't know the whys and hows, so I'll wait for the newer studies where they actually know all the facts, then data can be analyzed properly.

a reply to: quintessentone
Nothing is new under the sun. Kids gotta shock the adults. Shock value has become more extreme with each generation. Now we've come full whacko

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

What a bunch of gobblygook. nothing is new. Shock value has become more extreme with each generation. Now we've come full nutball.

The epigenetics study is new and points to a biological reason for gender incongruence. Is this where the new studies get ignored?

a reply to: AdifferentOpinion

transtrenders? I toldya all it was a FAD, multiple times, except for a very sad few that actually suffer their whole lives.