Children on puberty blockers saw mental health change - new analysis

a reply to: TheValeyard

In my exasperation I've pondered same. Seems to me this gen is too rigid in their categorizations. I think it comes from Object Oriented Programming. Everything is an object with properties limited to those in the drop down boxes. If its not in the box, its exception handling and we don't need no exception handling!

a reply to: Terpene

the handfuls that didn't die yet


Ok

a reply to: quintessentone

How sad a concept that love within a family is trauma bonding.

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg

It's statistical analysis and re-analysis where both study teams don't know the whys and hows, so I'll wait for the newer studies where they actually know all the facts, then data can be analyzed properly.

It kinda cracks me up — science knows very little about what & how a human ls created.

Let’s ask for proof of heterosexuality. There isn’t any.

Brain scans seem to be the closest to any actual proof.

Transgenders are because they say so. They know.

Heterosexuals are because they say so. Not from any scientific proof.

a reply to: Annee

A man can NEVER know what being a woman feels like. How could he possibly?

The insanity is nothing but obvious!

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Annee

A man can NEVER know what being a woman feels like. How could he possibly?

The insanity is nothing but obvious!

It’s in the brain.

a reply to: Annee

No.

It's in your imagination.

Stop being a commie POS.

a reply to: Annee

No its NOT in the brain. The brain is DNA also.

I can feel like I'm maybe not human but I will never never ever know what it feels like to be a cat. It is impossible.

How can a man know what it is like to be a woman when he has never had a cycle? The ups and downs that come and go with becoming of age as a woman? That will never know menopause or childbirth or nursing orn different center of gravity?

Conversely, women will never experience the strength of a man the beard, ejaculation. These are just the physical experiences that will never be understand d by the other. There are vast numbers of other differences.

Stop with all the silliness.

a reply to: Annee

Only the last few years has there been a distinction between sex and gender. progressives now want to change that because they are progressive for progressive sake I guess.

Millions of humans disagree. But that doesn't phase the progressives a bit. They change a definition of a word that has been used for hundreds of years and viola new facts! Then they think they are smarter than the rest of us.

not buying the bs

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Annee

Only the last few years has there been a distinction between sex and gender. progressives now want to change that because they are progressive for progressive sake I guess.

Millions of humans disagree. But that doesn't phase the progressives a bit. They change a definition of a word that has been used for hundreds of years and viola new facts! Then they think they are smarter than the rest of us.

not buying the bs

Oh, I expect in some circles sexuality and gender have been known to be separate for eons.

The US has always been in recovery from its puritanical beginnings.

Getting there.

originally posted by: Terpene
Sure, it's problematic, but will prozac help? Will any of the alternatives help?
The 20 till 25 years old suicide peak is getting higher every decade, and all we do is patching it up, instead of curing the disease. So long we aren't willing to stop all the wrongs we do to our most vulnerable, we should embrace all methods to patch up the wounds.

The cure is in how we raise our kids. My kids are 23 and 20, so one should ask why are my kids successful with zero need for Prozac or anything else. Very happy working on their future careers. My 20-year-old has a friend doing well in the Army, working towards his nursing qualifications, and mentioned to me he was on Prozac I asked why the hell do you know Prozac and he said... Well you know my Psychiatrist suggested... I was like why the hell do you need a Psychiatrist??

The deal is that depression has been normalized and is the excuse for everything.

originally posted by: marg6043

The trans pushers of the agenda are the ones that do not give a crap about our children and even babies as long as they can convince the idiot parents that their babies are trans.

This bring the thought that is pedos behind all this pushing, keep the children from developing, more meat for their markets.

I don't even think it is the pedos behind it, and not really the majority of the trans. It's non-trans woke liberals pushing it. People for some reason want to so hard to be one with the Alphibet community but are not, so they go to their kids to show they are with them.

When parents say... At age 3 my kid knew they were not a biological boy... For example, is woke liberals pushing that crap.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

The gender ideologues and trans activists don't really think it's a problem. Otherwise how can they support their ideology?

Oh, they do inside... They know they are a bag of crazy, but if it can be normalized to the point that even a 7-year-old knows they are not a real boy then just maybe they are not as crazy as they seem. All this is not about helping young people to identify, it is about people wanting everyone to say they are as normal as American apple pie.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels
I'm not sure why you've addressed two posts to me but please stop it because through your repeated posting, I've determined that you really don't have any practical knowledge or experience with trans people, issues, community or culture and are just trying to push your own ideas, beliefs, values and opinions while showing little possibility of actually examining your own position in light of additional information or other's points of view or in other words, your mind is made up and stuck closed so there is no point in me engaging further with you. I'm not singling you out though because the same can be said of several others.

There is very little or no actual discussion here with a reciprocal exchange of ideas and knowledge helping others form more rounded opinions even if in some cases information come from those with actual firsthand experience in these matters and there really isn't anything resembling a debate because things devolve immediately into arguing with some thinking if they repeat the same thing over and over, they can bully and dominate their way to “winning”.

Others have been drawn into the GOP’s culture war propagated by religious extremists of false and emotional rhetoric and distortions against trans people using recycled strategies from the 1970s through the 1990s to spread misinformation and fear toward LGBT communities as a whole of being predators, groomers and pedophiles after your children who have now cowardly focused their attention on trans youth, a highly vulnerable demographic with little ability or voice to defend themselves. It sickens me and I will continue to speak out against it.

Deja Vu - Anti-gay tactics are now being used to harm the trans community

All this redundant back and forth is tiring and boring and also disenhartening that humanity can be so lacking in compassion, empathy and genuine information and concern for kids and families dealing with trans situations and that legislators can be so swayed by pseudo-science peddling religious fanatics and the resulting government overreach and intrusion into private lives and medical decisions made between doctors and parents by busybodies that think this will get them power and votes simply disgusts me.

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Annee

No.

It's in your imagination.

Stop being a commie POS.

Stop being a jerk.

originally posted by: quintessentone


That's not it at all. All those involved in the treatment of kids with gender dysphoria, and they are low numbers, have rigorously gone through targeted psychological assessments while following these kids for years, only then does the parent, child and all medical professionals combined make careful decisions to proceed with puberty blockers (which do not cause infertility). They are not supporting an ideology they are helping and treating gender dysphoria in children who may or may not be at risk.

1. Where is your backup proof that they have been followed for years? If that's the standard of care, how many years are necessary and what types/number of assessments are necessary?

2. But it IS and ideology - one which believes it's ok to block puberty for a child. One that believes the best solution to unhappiness with body issues is to change the body.

3. Where is the study that compares puberty blockers to teaching children to be happy in their body. I'm not saying teach them that their feelings are bad but you can teach body acceptance.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Annee

A man can NEVER know what being a woman feels like. How could he possibly?

The insanity is nothing but obvious!

It’s in the brain.

Nope, those cramps I had a few days ago were NOT in my brain!

a reply to: Xtrozero

It's non-trans woke liberals pushing it

Just quoting for posterity.


This has been my perspective as well.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Annee

No its NOT in the brain. The brain is DNA also.

I can feel like I'm maybe not human but I will never never ever know what it feels like to be a cat. It is impossible.

How can a man know what it is like to be a woman when he has never had a cycle? The ups and downs that come and go with becoming of age as a woman? That will never know menopause or childbirth or nursing orn different center of gravity?

Conversely, women will never experience the strength of a man the beard, ejaculation. These are just the physical experiences that will never be understand d by the other. There are vast numbers of other differences.

Stop with all the silliness.

Yet you anti-trans being of the brain guys ignore my epigenics clinical studies because it does not fit your narrative.

Until you go through puberty you do not really understand what it is like to me a woman or man.

So how can a child understand they don't want to go through it?

What's wrong with waiting? The only harm is cosmetic.