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Horrified hospital employee leaks DEI training pushing 3-year-olds identifying as transgender

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posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 04:03 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone
That's not true. I am here asking for proof because the accusations from the whistleblower and yourself could be taken as slander.


Get real.
The hospital isn't going to release it's internal training films. It's for internal use.
Either you believe the whistleblower or not. Of course you don't. That's on you.
Considering the obvious agenda going on with TRANS induction, we do.



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posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: tanstaafl
Your biased opinion is noted,

I'm not sure what is funnier, that you are so oblivious to reality that you cannot see the absurdity of your projection, or that you actually believe your own nonsense.


however I was asking the OP a direct question that he won't answer for a thousand pages so far.

There is no question to answer, as the answer is self-evident. You are simply incapable of enough rational, logical thought to see it.



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 09:28 AM
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originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg
Who do you think is pushing this agenda?

Right now in this case, you and people like you.


Your biased opinion is noted, however I was asking the OP a direct question that he won't answer for a thousand pages so far.


That has been answered long time ago. You made strawman arguments that have been refuted and you are further exposing your arguments by supporting openly the trans ideology.

If you want to find who these adults are then ask the whistleblower. I don't work for them. But the push for the agenda is there.


Deflection. You were the one who identified 'adults' as pushing. Show us proof of these adults pushing the ideology.


Yes because it's adults who are pushing the trans agenda to minors. 3 year old kids don't know about 'trans' issues....


How does this pushing relate to the DEI video from Kaiser hospital? Nobody here has seen it and this is what your thread is all about.


For the video you need to ask the whistleblower. Not me.

If what they're saying is untrue the hospital will come back and dismiss it. There hasn't been any counter argument and stories yet. Unlikely they will be in the future.

But again if you think the trans agenda comes down to a video you have forgotten how many others threads and stories are here.


You are making claims from the video that the whistleblower claims that Kaiser is pushing 3 year old children identifying as transgender. Isn't that what your thread title implies?

Then you run with it claiming 'adults' are pushing the transgender ideology without posting the offending video so we all can see it and judge for ourselves what the video is actually showing/instructing. Isn't that correct?


The whistleblower said and nobody from the hospital said the opposite.

Yes, adults are pushing the trans ideology to kids.
Who is giving hormones and 'puberty' blockers to kids? Adults

Who is performing child mutilations? Adults

Who is teaching and indoctrinating kids they could be in the wrong body? Adults


The only reason I am on this thread is to find the truth in your claim and the whistleblower's claim that Kaiser is without a doubt pushing a transgender ideology. What I need now is actual proof and you come up short as usual.


The only you appear in similar threads and this one is to try to find some holes in the stories to try to defend the trans ideology and 'gender affirming care'. And you always fail.

If you want the video then you can ask the whistleblower. But it doesn't make any difference in regards to the trans agenda which has been created by activists and deluded adults. This isn't something kids have come up with...

I haven't made any claims. I am just giving the story and commenting on the trans agenda. The story doesn't have any names given. Even the whistleblower is anonymous. But the hospital or anyone else hasn't refused or dismissed this version of events. We could consider it true.


That's not true. I am here asking for proof because the accusations from the whistleblower and yourself could be taken as slander.


What slander are you talking about?!
There is a whistleblower out there who has made some allegations. If the Hospital wanted to go against them they would have done it already. They haven't. Unlikely they will do in the future.


The reality is there is one employee out of how many hundreds at that hospital who all viewed the DEI training video, fact #1 there was only one had an issue with it and came out under the protection of anonymity which many others could have done, yet did not.

Fact #2, it's very convenient that the DEI training video is NOT obtainable, so that we can view it and judge for ourselves if the claims from this employee and yourself are in fact justified and accurate. Hence the void, hence the request for proof.

In the end, if there is a pushing of this T agenda then the power to push it is solely in the hands of the parents for without the parents approval nothing goes forward.

This is the most likely scenario when parents are faced with their child questioning their gender; from loss to acceptance.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 09:35 AM
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originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: tanstaafl
Your biased opinion is noted,

I'm not sure what is funnier, that you are so oblivious to reality that you cannot see the absurdity of your projection, or that you actually believe your own nonsense.


however I was asking the OP a direct question that he won't answer for a thousand pages so far.

There is no question to answer, as the answer is self-evident. You are simply incapable of enough rational, logical thought to see it.


They're playing it dumb btw.
Of course they can see what we mean by the trans agenda but they wish to ignore pretty much everything as they're somehow invested in this kind of nonsense.

They even 'believe' 3-year old kids know what sexuality is and what is meant to be trans or born in the wrong body... These are definitely thoughts kids have...



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg
Who do you think is pushing this agenda?

Right now in this case, you and people like you.


Your biased opinion is noted, however I was asking the OP a direct question that he won't answer for a thousand pages so far.


That has been answered long time ago. You made strawman arguments that have been refuted and you are further exposing your arguments by supporting openly the trans ideology.

If you want to find who these adults are then ask the whistleblower. I don't work for them. But the push for the agenda is there.


Deflection. You were the one who identified 'adults' as pushing. Show us proof of these adults pushing the ideology.


Yes because it's adults who are pushing the trans agenda to minors. 3 year old kids don't know about 'trans' issues....


How does this pushing relate to the DEI video from Kaiser hospital? Nobody here has seen it and this is what your thread is all about.


For the video you need to ask the whistleblower. Not me.

If what they're saying is untrue the hospital will come back and dismiss it. There hasn't been any counter argument and stories yet. Unlikely they will be in the future.

But again if you think the trans agenda comes down to a video you have forgotten how many others threads and stories are here.


You are making claims from the video that the whistleblower claims that Kaiser is pushing 3 year old children identifying as transgender. Isn't that what your thread title implies?

Then you run with it claiming 'adults' are pushing the transgender ideology without posting the offending video so we all can see it and judge for ourselves what the video is actually showing/instructing. Isn't that correct?


The whistleblower said and nobody from the hospital said the opposite.

Yes, adults are pushing the trans ideology to kids.
Who is giving hormones and 'puberty' blockers to kids? Adults

Who is performing child mutilations? Adults

Who is teaching and indoctrinating kids they could be in the wrong body? Adults


The only reason I am on this thread is to find the truth in your claim and the whistleblower's claim that Kaiser is without a doubt pushing a transgender ideology. What I need now is actual proof and you come up short as usual.


The only you appear in similar threads and this one is to try to find some holes in the stories to try to defend the trans ideology and 'gender affirming care'. And you always fail.

If you want the video then you can ask the whistleblower. But it doesn't make any difference in regards to the trans agenda which has been created by activists and deluded adults. This isn't something kids have come up with...

I haven't made any claims. I am just giving the story and commenting on the trans agenda. The story doesn't have any names given. Even the whistleblower is anonymous. But the hospital or anyone else hasn't refused or dismissed this version of events. We could consider it true.


That's not true. I am here asking for proof because the accusations from the whistleblower and yourself could be taken as slander.


What slander are you talking about?!
There is a whistleblower out there who has made some allegations. If the Hospital wanted to go against them they would have done it already. They haven't. Unlikely they will do in the future.


The reality is there is one employee out of how many hundreds at that hospital who all viewed the DEI training video, fact #1 there was only one had an issue with it and came out under the protection of anonymity which many others could have done, yet did not.

Fact #2, it's very convenient that the DEI training video is NOT obtainable, so that we can view it and judge for ourselves if the claims from this employee and yourself are in fact justified and accurate. Hence the void, hence the request for proof.

In the end, if there is a pushing of this T agenda then the power to push it is solely in the hands of the parents for without the parents approval nothing goes forward.

This is the most likely scenario when parents are faced with their child questioning their gender; from loss to acceptance.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Children can't question their gender without influence and indoctrination by adults. This type of 'questioning' comes from gender ideologues, radical left wing ideologists, and trans activists.

Putting a link in the end doesn't save the day...



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone
The reality is there is one employee out of how many hundreds at that hospital who all viewed the DEI training video, fact #1 there was only one had an issue with it and came out under the protection of anonymity which many others could have done, yet did not.

And that is THEIR BUSINESS if they wish to be whistleblowers and take a chance with their jobs or not. There is no 'protection of anonymity' promised to anyone.


it's very convenient that the DEI training video is NOT obtainable, so that we can view it and judge for ourselves if the claims from this employee and yourself are in fact justified and accurate. Hence the void, hence the request for proof.

"Convenient"??? Oh brother. It's just the way it is. It's an INTERNAL TRAINING VIDEO and not one that the company is putting out for public viewing. Companies do that all the time. Nothing 'convenient' about it. Either you believe the whistleblower or not. You ... of course ... choose not to. We, on the other hand, can see the agenda and believe it. It's just that simple.


without the parents approval nothing goes forward.

That's not even remotely true.


This is the most likely scenario when parents are faced with their child questioning their gender; from loss to acceptance.

What are you talking about?? This is about a training video teaching hospital staff that three year olds are transgender.



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 09:46 AM
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anyone with the slightest social skill set, will notice the back channel and its propaganda that is being peddled on ATS.

I can see you, and all the projection will only make themselves look worse in the eyes of those who see...



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg
Who do you think is pushing this agenda?

Right now in this case, you and people like you.


Your biased opinion is noted, however I was asking the OP a direct question that he won't answer for a thousand pages so far.


That has been answered long time ago. You made strawman arguments that have been refuted and you are further exposing your arguments by supporting openly the trans ideology.

If you want to find who these adults are then ask the whistleblower. I don't work for them. But the push for the agenda is there.


Deflection. You were the one who identified 'adults' as pushing. Show us proof of these adults pushing the ideology.


Yes because it's adults who are pushing the trans agenda to minors. 3 year old kids don't know about 'trans' issues....


How does this pushing relate to the DEI video from Kaiser hospital? Nobody here has seen it and this is what your thread is all about.


For the video you need to ask the whistleblower. Not me.

If what they're saying is untrue the hospital will come back and dismiss it. There hasn't been any counter argument and stories yet. Unlikely they will be in the future.

But again if you think the trans agenda comes down to a video you have forgotten how many others threads and stories are here.


You are making claims from the video that the whistleblower claims that Kaiser is pushing 3 year old children identifying as transgender. Isn't that what your thread title implies?

Then you run with it claiming 'adults' are pushing the transgender ideology without posting the offending video so we all can see it and judge for ourselves what the video is actually showing/instructing. Isn't that correct?


The whistleblower said and nobody from the hospital said the opposite.

Yes, adults are pushing the trans ideology to kids.
Who is giving hormones and 'puberty' blockers to kids? Adults

Who is performing child mutilations? Adults

Who is teaching and indoctrinating kids they could be in the wrong body? Adults


The only reason I am on this thread is to find the truth in your claim and the whistleblower's claim that Kaiser is without a doubt pushing a transgender ideology. What I need now is actual proof and you come up short as usual.


The only you appear in similar threads and this one is to try to find some holes in the stories to try to defend the trans ideology and 'gender affirming care'. And you always fail.

If you want the video then you can ask the whistleblower. But it doesn't make any difference in regards to the trans agenda which has been created by activists and deluded adults. This isn't something kids have come up with...

I haven't made any claims. I am just giving the story and commenting on the trans agenda. The story doesn't have any names given. Even the whistleblower is anonymous. But the hospital or anyone else hasn't refused or dismissed this version of events. We could consider it true.


That's not true. I am here asking for proof because the accusations from the whistleblower and yourself could be taken as slander.


What slander are you talking about?!
There is a whistleblower out there who has made some allegations. If the Hospital wanted to go against them they would have done it already. They haven't. Unlikely they will do in the future.


The reality is there is one employee out of how many hundreds at that hospital who all viewed the DEI training video, fact #1 there was only one had an issue with it and came out under the protection of anonymity which many others could have done, yet did not.

Fact #2, it's very convenient that the DEI training video is NOT obtainable, so that we can view it and judge for ourselves if the claims from this employee and yourself are in fact justified and accurate. Hence the void, hence the request for proof.

In the end, if there is a pushing of this T agenda then the power to push it is solely in the hands of the parents for without the parents approval nothing goes forward.

This is the most likely scenario when parents are faced with their child questioning their gender; from loss to acceptance.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Children can't question their gender without influence and indoctrination by adults. This type of 'questioning' comes from gender ideologues, radical left wing ideologists, and trans activists.

Putting a link in the end doesn't save the day...


That is NOT what young children do, they only can distinguish between the two genders and whether or not they feel more comfortable towards one or the other. No child is taken to see a counsellor at 3 or 4 years old so your whole thread premise of this imagined 'pushing' a T agenda is fear based and, as usual, fits into your narrative and your agenda here.
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posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg
Who do you think is pushing this agenda?

Right now in this case, you and people like you.


Your biased opinion is noted, however I was asking the OP a direct question that he won't answer for a thousand pages so far.


That has been answered long time ago. You made strawman arguments that have been refuted and you are further exposing your arguments by supporting openly the trans ideology.

If you want to find who these adults are then ask the whistleblower. I don't work for them. But the push for the agenda is there.


Deflection. You were the one who identified 'adults' as pushing. Show us proof of these adults pushing the ideology.


Yes because it's adults who are pushing the trans agenda to minors. 3 year old kids don't know about 'trans' issues....


How does this pushing relate to the DEI video from Kaiser hospital? Nobody here has seen it and this is what your thread is all about.


For the video you need to ask the whistleblower. Not me.

If what they're saying is untrue the hospital will come back and dismiss it. There hasn't been any counter argument and stories yet. Unlikely they will be in the future.

But again if you think the trans agenda comes down to a video you have forgotten how many others threads and stories are here.


You are making claims from the video that the whistleblower claims that Kaiser is pushing 3 year old children identifying as transgender. Isn't that what your thread title implies?

Then you run with it claiming 'adults' are pushing the transgender ideology without posting the offending video so we all can see it and judge for ourselves what the video is actually showing/instructing. Isn't that correct?


The whistleblower said and nobody from the hospital said the opposite.

Yes, adults are pushing the trans ideology to kids.
Who is giving hormones and 'puberty' blockers to kids? Adults

Who is performing child mutilations? Adults

Who is teaching and indoctrinating kids they could be in the wrong body? Adults


The only reason I am on this thread is to find the truth in your claim and the whistleblower's claim that Kaiser is without a doubt pushing a transgender ideology. What I need now is actual proof and you come up short as usual.


The only you appear in similar threads and this one is to try to find some holes in the stories to try to defend the trans ideology and 'gender affirming care'. And you always fail.

If you want the video then you can ask the whistleblower. But it doesn't make any difference in regards to the trans agenda which has been created by activists and deluded adults. This isn't something kids have come up with...

I haven't made any claims. I am just giving the story and commenting on the trans agenda. The story doesn't have any names given. Even the whistleblower is anonymous. But the hospital or anyone else hasn't refused or dismissed this version of events. We could consider it true.


That's not true. I am here asking for proof because the accusations from the whistleblower and yourself could be taken as slander.


What slander are you talking about?!
There is a whistleblower out there who has made some allegations. If the Hospital wanted to go against them they would have done it already. They haven't. Unlikely they will do in the future.


The reality is there is one employee out of how many hundreds at that hospital who all viewed the DEI training video, fact #1 there was only one had an issue with it and came out under the protection of anonymity which many others could have done, yet did not.

Fact #2, it's very convenient that the DEI training video is NOT obtainable, so that we can view it and judge for ourselves if the claims from this employee and yourself are in fact justified and accurate. Hence the void, hence the request for proof.

In the end, if there is a pushing of this T agenda then the power to push it is solely in the hands of the parents for without the parents approval nothing goes forward.

This is the most likely scenario when parents are faced with their child questioning their gender; from loss to acceptance.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Children can't question their gender without influence and indoctrination by adults. This type of 'questioning' comes from gender ideologues, radical left wing ideologists, and trans activists.

Putting a link in the end doesn't save the day...


That is NOT what young children do, they only can distinguish between the two genders and whether or not they feel more comfortable towards one or the other. No child is taken to see a counsellor at 3 or 4 years old so your whole thread premise of this imagined 'pushing' a T agenda is fear based and, as usual, fits into your narrative and your agenda here.




Yes. Ridiculous, dramatized fear.

Kids are known to recognize gender about age 3.

Mention transgender — “Moral panic”.



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 10:13 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg
Who do you think is pushing this agenda?

Right now in this case, you and people like you.


Your biased opinion is noted, however I was asking the OP a direct question that he won't answer for a thousand pages so far.


That has been answered long time ago. You made strawman arguments that have been refuted and you are further exposing your arguments by supporting openly the trans ideology.

If you want to find who these adults are then ask the whistleblower. I don't work for them. But the push for the agenda is there.


Deflection. You were the one who identified 'adults' as pushing. Show us proof of these adults pushing the ideology.


Yes because it's adults who are pushing the trans agenda to minors. 3 year old kids don't know about 'trans' issues....


How does this pushing relate to the DEI video from Kaiser hospital? Nobody here has seen it and this is what your thread is all about.


For the video you need to ask the whistleblower. Not me.

If what they're saying is untrue the hospital will come back and dismiss it. There hasn't been any counter argument and stories yet. Unlikely they will be in the future.

But again if you think the trans agenda comes down to a video you have forgotten how many others threads and stories are here.


You are making claims from the video that the whistleblower claims that Kaiser is pushing 3 year old children identifying as transgender. Isn't that what your thread title implies?

Then you run with it claiming 'adults' are pushing the transgender ideology without posting the offending video so we all can see it and judge for ourselves what the video is actually showing/instructing. Isn't that correct?


The whistleblower said and nobody from the hospital said the opposite.

Yes, adults are pushing the trans ideology to kids.
Who is giving hormones and 'puberty' blockers to kids? Adults

Who is performing child mutilations? Adults

Who is teaching and indoctrinating kids they could be in the wrong body? Adults


The only reason I am on this thread is to find the truth in your claim and the whistleblower's claim that Kaiser is without a doubt pushing a transgender ideology. What I need now is actual proof and you come up short as usual.


The only you appear in similar threads and this one is to try to find some holes in the stories to try to defend the trans ideology and 'gender affirming care'. And you always fail.

If you want the video then you can ask the whistleblower. But it doesn't make any difference in regards to the trans agenda which has been created by activists and deluded adults. This isn't something kids have come up with...

I haven't made any claims. I am just giving the story and commenting on the trans agenda. The story doesn't have any names given. Even the whistleblower is anonymous. But the hospital or anyone else hasn't refused or dismissed this version of events. We could consider it true.


That's not true. I am here asking for proof because the accusations from the whistleblower and yourself could be taken as slander.


What slander are you talking about?!
There is a whistleblower out there who has made some allegations. If the Hospital wanted to go against them they would have done it already. They haven't. Unlikely they will do in the future.


The reality is there is one employee out of how many hundreds at that hospital who all viewed the DEI training video, fact #1 there was only one had an issue with it and came out under the protection of anonymity which many others could have done, yet did not.

Fact #2, it's very convenient that the DEI training video is NOT obtainable, so that we can view it and judge for ourselves if the claims from this employee and yourself are in fact justified and accurate. Hence the void, hence the request for proof.

In the end, if there is a pushing of this T agenda then the power to push it is solely in the hands of the parents for without the parents approval nothing goes forward.

This is the most likely scenario when parents are faced with their child questioning their gender; from loss to acceptance.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Children can't question their gender without influence and indoctrination by adults. This type of 'questioning' comes from gender ideologues, radical left wing ideologists, and trans activists.

Putting a link in the end doesn't save the day...


That is NOT what young children do, they only can distinguish between the two genders and whether or not they feel more comfortable towards one or the other. No child is taken to see a counsellor at 3 or 4 years old so your whole thread premise of this imagined 'pushing' a T agenda is fear based and, as usual, fits into your narrative and your agenda here.




Yes. Ridiculous, dramatized fear.

Kids are known to recognize gender about age 3.

Mention transgender — “Moral panic”.


Maybe there needs to be a new term, how about Boogey?they Transgender = BT.



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone
a reply to: Annee

Show me one post where anyone's argument was focused on the morality of this subject and/or called it wrong or a sin to be trans.



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg
Who do you think is pushing this agenda?

Right now in this case, you and people like you.


Your biased opinion is noted, however I was asking the OP a direct question that he won't answer for a thousand pages so far.


That has been answered long time ago. You made strawman arguments that have been refuted and you are further exposing your arguments by supporting openly the trans ideology.

If you want to find who these adults are then ask the whistleblower. I don't work for them. But the push for the agenda is there.


Deflection. You were the one who identified 'adults' as pushing. Show us proof of these adults pushing the ideology.


Yes because it's adults who are pushing the trans agenda to minors. 3 year old kids don't know about 'trans' issues....


How does this pushing relate to the DEI video from Kaiser hospital? Nobody here has seen it and this is what your thread is all about.


For the video you need to ask the whistleblower. Not me.

If what they're saying is untrue the hospital will come back and dismiss it. There hasn't been any counter argument and stories yet. Unlikely they will be in the future.

But again if you think the trans agenda comes down to a video you have forgotten how many others threads and stories are here.


You are making claims from the video that the whistleblower claims that Kaiser is pushing 3 year old children identifying as transgender. Isn't that what your thread title implies?

Then you run with it claiming 'adults' are pushing the transgender ideology without posting the offending video so we all can see it and judge for ourselves what the video is actually showing/instructing. Isn't that correct?


The whistleblower said and nobody from the hospital said the opposite.

Yes, adults are pushing the trans ideology to kids.
Who is giving hormones and 'puberty' blockers to kids? Adults

Who is performing child mutilations? Adults

Who is teaching and indoctrinating kids they could be in the wrong body? Adults


The only reason I am on this thread is to find the truth in your claim and the whistleblower's claim that Kaiser is without a doubt pushing a transgender ideology. What I need now is actual proof and you come up short as usual.


The only you appear in similar threads and this one is to try to find some holes in the stories to try to defend the trans ideology and 'gender affirming care'. And you always fail.

If you want the video then you can ask the whistleblower. But it doesn't make any difference in regards to the trans agenda which has been created by activists and deluded adults. This isn't something kids have come up with...

I haven't made any claims. I am just giving the story and commenting on the trans agenda. The story doesn't have any names given. Even the whistleblower is anonymous. But the hospital or anyone else hasn't refused or dismissed this version of events. We could consider it true.


That's not true. I am here asking for proof because the accusations from the whistleblower and yourself could be taken as slander.


What slander are you talking about?!
There is a whistleblower out there who has made some allegations. If the Hospital wanted to go against them they would have done it already. They haven't. Unlikely they will do in the future.


The reality is there is one employee out of how many hundreds at that hospital who all viewed the DEI training video, fact #1 there was only one had an issue with it and came out under the protection of anonymity which many others could have done, yet did not.

Fact #2, it's very convenient that the DEI training video is NOT obtainable, so that we can view it and judge for ourselves if the claims from this employee and yourself are in fact justified and accurate. Hence the void, hence the request for proof.

In the end, if there is a pushing of this T agenda then the power to push it is solely in the hands of the parents for without the parents approval nothing goes forward.

This is the most likely scenario when parents are faced with their child questioning their gender; from loss to acceptance.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Children can't question their gender without influence and indoctrination by adults. This type of 'questioning' comes from gender ideologues, radical left wing ideologists, and trans activists.

Putting a link in the end doesn't save the day...


That is NOT what young children do, they only can distinguish between the two genders and whether or not they feel more comfortable towards one or the other. No child is taken to see a counsellor at 3 or 4 years old so your whole thread premise of this imagined 'pushing' a T agenda is fear based and, as usual, fits into your narrative and your agenda here.


Any sane person will only see two genders, regardless of whether they are adults or minors. What do you mean by feeling comfortable towards one or the other? Is this even an argument? Your gender is determined by your chromosomes and not by how you feel.

You made another strawman I see.
The thread is about a whistleblower who has blown the whistle in relation to the practices of the Hospital that found it wise to expect employees to watch a video where 3 and 4 year old kids explaining they were transgender...

Stupid, unwise, and backfired.
3 year olds don't know what is to be transgender. They need to be influenced and indoctrinated by adults, even if they understand very little at this age.

You seem to be supporting this debunked ideology without understanding how ridiculous it is and it sounds.



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 11:11 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg
Who do you think is pushing this agenda?

Right now in this case, you and people like you.


Your biased opinion is noted, however I was asking the OP a direct question that he won't answer for a thousand pages so far.


That has been answered long time ago. You made strawman arguments that have been refuted and you are further exposing your arguments by supporting openly the trans ideology.

If you want to find who these adults are then ask the whistleblower. I don't work for them. But the push for the agenda is there.


Deflection. You were the one who identified 'adults' as pushing. Show us proof of these adults pushing the ideology.


Yes because it's adults who are pushing the trans agenda to minors. 3 year old kids don't know about 'trans' issues....


How does this pushing relate to the DEI video from Kaiser hospital? Nobody here has seen it and this is what your thread is all about.


For the video you need to ask the whistleblower. Not me.

If what they're saying is untrue the hospital will come back and dismiss it. There hasn't been any counter argument and stories yet. Unlikely they will be in the future.

But again if you think the trans agenda comes down to a video you have forgotten how many others threads and stories are here.


You are making claims from the video that the whistleblower claims that Kaiser is pushing 3 year old children identifying as transgender. Isn't that what your thread title implies?

Then you run with it claiming 'adults' are pushing the transgender ideology without posting the offending video so we all can see it and judge for ourselves what the video is actually showing/instructing. Isn't that correct?


The whistleblower said and nobody from the hospital said the opposite.

Yes, adults are pushing the trans ideology to kids.
Who is giving hormones and 'puberty' blockers to kids? Adults

Who is performing child mutilations? Adults

Who is teaching and indoctrinating kids they could be in the wrong body? Adults


The only reason I am on this thread is to find the truth in your claim and the whistleblower's claim that Kaiser is without a doubt pushing a transgender ideology. What I need now is actual proof and you come up short as usual.


The only you appear in similar threads and this one is to try to find some holes in the stories to try to defend the trans ideology and 'gender affirming care'. And you always fail.

If you want the video then you can ask the whistleblower. But it doesn't make any difference in regards to the trans agenda which has been created by activists and deluded adults. This isn't something kids have come up with...

I haven't made any claims. I am just giving the story and commenting on the trans agenda. The story doesn't have any names given. Even the whistleblower is anonymous. But the hospital or anyone else hasn't refused or dismissed this version of events. We could consider it true.


That's not true. I am here asking for proof because the accusations from the whistleblower and yourself could be taken as slander.


What slander are you talking about?!
There is a whistleblower out there who has made some allegations. If the Hospital wanted to go against them they would have done it already. They haven't. Unlikely they will do in the future.


The reality is there is one employee out of how many hundreds at that hospital who all viewed the DEI training video, fact #1 there was only one had an issue with it and came out under the protection of anonymity which many others could have done, yet did not.

Fact #2, it's very convenient that the DEI training video is NOT obtainable, so that we can view it and judge for ourselves if the claims from this employee and yourself are in fact justified and accurate. Hence the void, hence the request for proof.

In the end, if there is a pushing of this T agenda then the power to push it is solely in the hands of the parents for without the parents approval nothing goes forward.

This is the most likely scenario when parents are faced with their child questioning their gender; from loss to acceptance.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Children can't question their gender without influence and indoctrination by adults. This type of 'questioning' comes from gender ideologues, radical left wing ideologists, and trans activists.

Putting a link in the end doesn't save the day...


That is NOT what young children do, they only can distinguish between the two genders and whether or not they feel more comfortable towards one or the other. No child is taken to see a counsellor at 3 or 4 years old so your whole thread premise of this imagined 'pushing' a T agenda is fear based and, as usual, fits into your narrative and your agenda here.




Yes. Ridiculous, dramatized fear.

Kids are known to recognize gender about age 3.

Mention transgender — “Moral panic”.


Strawman argument.

Kids know nothing about gender and sexuality or what is to be 'trans'. The trans label is only given by deluded adults...



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: Terpene
anyone with the slightest social skill set, will notice the back channel and its propaganda that is being peddled on ATS.

I can see you, and all the projection will only make themselves look worse in the eyes of those who see...


There is propaganda and is pushed by gender ideologues and trans activists but they have lost all debates and arguments.

They can't even come to terms with the realities of this ideology and the many blows it has received over the last 2-3 years.

Several states have banned 'gender affirming care' for minors making it illegal.

Several sports have banned transwomen from female competitions.

A number of whistleblowers have spoken out. Parents, teachers, and professionals have had enough.

The thread deals with a case of a whistleblower and no matter what you think she did the right thing to expose the trans ideology and agenda.



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: AlienBorg

You are so uninformed and uneducated about child development at that age that I don't know where to go from here with you.

Nobody is claiming children at 3 yrs old know what transgender is, nobody stated that, you are twisting and are confused.

I don't know how to help you understand the reality and the established science. Did you even read the child developmental studies we posted? It lays it all out there in easy to understand language.

I support self-education and thinking and researching yourself to find the truth, and in this case we are all unable to this because we can't view that specific DEI employee training video to ascertain what exactly that employee viewed.



posted on Sep, 5 2023 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg

You are so uninformed and uneducated about child development at that age that I don't know where to go from here with you.

Nobody is claiming children at 3 yrs old know what transgender is, nobody stated that, you are twisting and are confused.

I don't know how to help you understand the reality and the established science. Did you even read the child developmental studies we posted? It lays it all out there in easy to understand language.

I support self-education and thinking and researching yourself to find the truth, and in this case we are all unable to this because we can't view that specific DEI employee training video to ascertain what exactly that employee viewed.



Ah I see...
I may then need some of this 'education' from gender ideologues, radical left wing loonies, and trans activists...

Maybe the whistleblower should get the 'education' you were talking about. She seems 'uneducated' and can't see the benefits of indoctrination and brainwash at a young age...



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