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originally posted by: Terpene
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originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: quintessentone
...nobody here can make any opinion/judgement on proving or disproving a T agenda exists at this hospital and is being pushed by this hospital on anybody. .
That's absurd. Sure they can. Anyone can give their opinion that they believe the whistleblower. They can believe it for whatever reason they like, most likely because there IS an obvious agenda to push TRANS ideology on minor children this country. So the accusation is firmly in 'could very well have happened' territory and anyone can have an opinion that they believe the whistleblower. At this point no one can prove it, but they sure in all hell can have an opinion that they believe it's true.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg
Who do you think is pushing this agenda?
Right now in this case, you and people like you.
Your biased opinion is noted, however I was asking the OP a direct question that he won't answer for a thousand pages so far.
That has been answered long time ago. You made strawman arguments that have been refuted and you are further exposing your arguments by supporting openly the trans ideology.
If you want to find who these adults are then ask the whistleblower. I don't work for them. But the push for the agenda is there.
Deflection. You were the one who identified 'adults' as pushing. Show us proof of these adults pushing the ideology.
Yes because it's adults who are pushing the trans agenda to minors. 3 year old kids don't know about 'trans' issues....
How does this pushing relate to the DEI video from Kaiser hospital? Nobody here has seen it and this is what your thread is all about.
For the video you need to ask the whistleblower. Not me.
If what they're saying is untrue the hospital will come back and dismiss it. There hasn't been any counter argument and stories yet. Unlikely they will be in the future.
But again if you think the trans agenda comes down to a video you have forgotten how many others threads and stories are here.
You are making claims from the video that the whistleblower claims that Kaiser is pushing 3 year old children identifying as transgender. Isn't that what your thread title implies?
Then you run with it claiming 'adults' are pushing the transgender ideology without posting the offending video so we all can see it and judge for ourselves what the video is actually showing/instructing. Isn't that correct?
The whistleblower said and nobody from the hospital said the opposite.
Yes, adults are pushing the trans ideology to kids.
Who is giving hormones and 'puberty' blockers to kids? Adults
Who is performing child mutilations? Adults
Who is teaching and indoctrinating kids they could be in the wrong body? Adults
The only reason I am on this thread is to find the truth in your claim and the whistleblower's claim that Kaiser is without a doubt pushing a transgender ideology. What I need now is actual proof and you come up short as usual.
The only you appear in similar threads and this one is to try to find some holes in the stories to try to defend the trans ideology and 'gender affirming care'. And you always fail.
If you want the video then you can ask the whistleblower. But it doesn't make any difference in regards to the trans agenda which has been created by activists and deluded adults. This isn't something kids have come up with...
I haven't made any claims. I am just giving the story and commenting on the trans agenda. The story doesn't have any names given. Even the whistleblower is anonymous. But the hospital or anyone else hasn't refused or dismissed this version of events. We could consider it true.
That's not true. I am here asking for proof because the accusations from the whistleblower and yourself could be taken as slander.
What slander are you talking about?!
There is a whistleblower out there who has made some allegations. If the Hospital wanted to go against them they would have done it already. They haven't. Unlikely they will do in the future.
The reality is there is one employee out of how many hundreds at that hospital who all viewed the DEI training video, fact #1 there was only one had an issue with it and came out under the protection of anonymity which many others could have done, yet did not.
Fact #2, it's very convenient that the DEI training video is NOT obtainable, so that we can view it and judge for ourselves if the claims from this employee and yourself are in fact justified and accurate. Hence the void, hence the request for proof.
In the end, if there is a pushing of this T agenda then the power to push it is solely in the hands of the parents for without the parents approval nothing goes forward.
This is the most likely scenario when parents are faced with their child questioning their gender; from loss to acceptance.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
Children can't question their gender without influence and indoctrination by adults. This type of 'questioning' comes from gender ideologues, radical left wing ideologists, and trans activists.
Putting a link in the end doesn't save the day...
That is NOT what young children do, they only can distinguish between the two genders and whether or not they feel more comfortable towards one or the other. No child is taken to see a counsellor at 3 or 4 years old so your whole thread premise of this imagined 'pushing' a T agenda is fear based and, as usual, fits into your narrative and your agenda here.
Yes. Ridiculous, dramatized fear.
Kids are known to recognize gender about age 3.
Mention transgender — “Moral panic”.
Strawman argument.
Kids know nothing about gender and sexuality or what is to be 'trans'. The trans label is only given by deluded adults...
We get that you are the expert of all in your own mind.
However, the real experts know kids recognize gender anbout age 3.
Feel free to look it up.
originally posted by: Annee
QUESTION: how credible is a whistleblower?
Do you just automatically give them a Gold Metal
Are they credible because they have a background in gender studies?
More likely a Fundamental Justice Warrior pushing Moral Panic.
originally posted by: Annee
QUESTION: how credible is a whistleblower?
Do you just automatically give them a Gold Metal
Are they credible because they have a background in gender studies?
More likely a Fundamental Justice Warrior pushing Moral Panic.
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: Annee
QUESTION: how credible is a whistleblower?
Do you just automatically give them a Gold Metal
Are they credible because they have a background in gender studies?
More likely a Fundamental Justice Warrior pushing Moral Panic.
Much more credible than a gender ideologue or a trans activist. As the matter of fact gender ideologues and trans activists have zero credibility on the top of having zero knowledge.
In the case of an employee who works let's say in a hospital blowing the whistle puts them in a very difficult position as whistleblowers don't necessarily have legal protections and they can easily be disciplined through formal procedures and lose their jobs.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Annee
QUESTION: how credible is a whistleblower?
Do you just automatically give them a Gold Metal
Are they credible because they have a background in gender studies?
More likely a Fundamental Justice Warrior pushing Moral Panic.
That's been my question all through this fiasco of a thread. One employee comes forth anonymously and the regular crowd jumps on the bandwagon and treats as truth. The OP does not provide any backup source for any of us to investigate for ourselves. What is that called? You got it Annee anti-T agenda justice warriors pushing moral panic. While they play a tune on this fiddle, Rome burns.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: Annee
QUESTION: how credible is a whistleblower?
Do you just automatically give them a Gold Metal
Are they credible because they have a background in gender studies?
More likely a Fundamental Justice Warrior pushing Moral Panic.
Much more credible than a gender ideologue or a trans activist. As the matter of fact gender ideologues and trans activists have zero credibility on the top of having zero knowledge.
In the case of an employee who works let's say in a hospital blowing the whistle puts them in a very difficult position as whistleblowers don't necessarily have legal protections and they can easily be disciplined through formal procedures and lose their jobs.
No they can't be fired with one requirement...they have to be right and prove it and if this employee felt he/she was in the right then the anonymity was not needed. It reeks of the usual anti-T agenda.
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: Annee
QUESTION: how credible is a whistleblower?
Do you just automatically give them a Gold Metal
Are they credible because they have a background in gender studies?
More likely a Fundamental Justice Warrior pushing Moral Panic.
Much more credible than a gender ideologue or a trans activist. As the matter of fact gender ideologues and trans activists have zero credibility on the top of having zero knowledge.
In the case of an employee who works let's say in a hospital blowing the whistle puts them in a very difficult position as whistleblowers don't necessarily have legal protections and they can easily be disciplined through formal procedures and lose their jobs.
No they can't be fired with one requirement...they have to be right and prove it and if this employee felt he/she was in the right then the anonymity was not needed. It reeks of the usual anti-T agenda.
Of course they can be fired if they go against their employer and blow the whistle. You clearly have no idea of how things work in the real world.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: Annee
QUESTION: how credible is a whistleblower?
Do you just automatically give them a Gold Metal
Are they credible because they have a background in gender studies?
More likely a Fundamental Justice Warrior pushing Moral Panic.
Much more credible than a gender ideologue or a trans activist. As the matter of fact gender ideologues and trans activists have zero credibility on the top of having zero knowledge.
In the case of an employee who works let's say in a hospital blowing the whistle puts them in a very difficult position as whistleblowers don't necessarily have legal protections and they can easily be disciplined through formal procedures and lose their jobs.
No they can't be fired with one requirement...they have to be right and prove it and if this employee felt he/she was in the right then the anonymity was not needed. It reeks of the usual anti-T agenda.
Of course they can be fired if they go against their employer and blow the whistle. You clearly have no idea of how things work in the real world.
If they fired her/him without just cause she could sue them for a lot of money. You don't know the law. However he/she would still need to prove they were right.
originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: AlienBorg
Proof is required . so we can make up our own minds as to whether it is true or not. Not sure why you don't get that. Oh, I know because we don't jump on the bandwagon of bias.
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: Annee
QUESTION: how credible is a whistleblower?
Do you just automatically give them a Gold Metal
Are they credible because they have a background in gender studies?
More likely a Fundamental Justice Warrior pushing Moral Panic.
Much more credible than a gender ideologue or a trans activist. As the matter of fact gender ideologues and trans activists have zero credibility on the top of having zero knowledge.
In the case of an employee who works let's say in a hospital blowing the whistle puts them in a very difficult position as whistleblowers don't necessarily have legal protections and they can easily be disciplined through formal procedures and lose their jobs.
No they can't be fired with one requirement...they have to be right and prove it and if this employee felt he/she was in the right then the anonymity was not needed. It reeks of the usual anti-T agenda.
Of course they can be fired if they go against their employer and blow the whistle. You clearly have no idea of how things work in the real world.
If they fired her/him without just cause she could sue them for a lot of money. You don't know the law. However he/she would still need to prove they were right.
I am afraid is you who don't know what whistleblower means and the laws. The fact you ignore completely that whistleblowers don't have legal protections and they could easily lose their jobs says it all.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: Annee
QUESTION: how credible is a whistleblower?
Do you just automatically give them a Gold Metal
Are they credible because they have a background in gender studies?
More likely a Fundamental Justice Warrior pushing Moral Panic.
Much more credible than a gender ideologue or a trans activist. As the matter of fact gender ideologues and trans activists have zero credibility on the top of having zero knowledge.
In the case of an employee who works let's say in a hospital blowing the whistle puts them in a very difficult position as whistleblowers don't necessarily have legal protections and they can easily be disciplined through formal procedures and lose their jobs.
No they can't be fired with one requirement...they have to be right and prove it and if this employee felt he/she was in the right then the anonymity was not needed. It reeks of the usual anti-T agenda.
Of course they can be fired if they go against their employer and blow the whistle. You clearly have no idea of how things work in the real world.
If they fired her/him without just cause she could sue them for a lot of money. You don't know the law. However he/she would still need to prove they were right.
I am afraid is you who don't know what whistleblower means and the laws. The fact you ignore completely that whistleblowers don't have legal protections and they could easily lose their jobs says it all.
She is not a whistleblower, she is an employee hiding behind anonymity who most likely interpreted the DEI video within a warped conservative mental framework and most likely without a background in child developmental psychology. Prove me wrong.
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: Annee
QUESTION: how credible is a whistleblower?
Do you just automatically give them a Gold Metal
Are they credible because they have a background in gender studies?
More likely a Fundamental Justice Warrior pushing Moral Panic.
Much more credible than a gender ideologue or a trans activist. As the matter of fact gender ideologues and trans activists have zero credibility on the top of having zero knowledge.
In the case of an employee who works let's say in a hospital blowing the whistle puts them in a very difficult position as whistleblowers don't necessarily have legal protections and they can easily be disciplined through formal procedures and lose their jobs.
No they can't be fired with one requirement...they have to be right and prove it and if this employee felt he/she was in the right then the anonymity was not needed. It reeks of the usual anti-T agenda.
Of course they can be fired if they go against their employer and blow the whistle. You clearly have no idea of how things work in the real world.
If they fired her/him without just cause she could sue them for a lot of money. You don't know the law. However he/she would still need to prove they were right.
I am afraid is you who don't know what whistleblower means and the laws. The fact you ignore completely that whistleblowers don't have legal protections and they could easily lose their jobs says it all.
She is not a whistleblower, she is an employee hiding behind anonymity who most likely interpreted the DEI video within a warped conservative mental framework and most likely without a background in child developmental psychology. Prove me wrong.
She is a whistleblower who has exposed the trans ideology. The rest is desperate attempts to try to hold on to something.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AlienBorg
originally posted by: Annee
QUESTION: how credible is a whistleblower?
Do you just automatically give them a Gold Metal
Are they credible because they have a background in gender studies?
More likely a Fundamental Justice Warrior pushing Moral Panic.
Much more credible than a gender ideologue or a trans activist. As the matter of fact gender ideologues and trans activists have zero credibility on the top of having zero knowledge.
In the case of an employee who works let's say in a hospital blowing the whistle puts them in a very difficult position as whistleblowers don't necessarily have legal protections and they can easily be disciplined through formal procedures and lose their jobs.
No they can't be fired with one requirement...they have to be right and prove it and if this employee felt he/she was in the right then the anonymity was not needed. It reeks of the usual anti-T agenda.
Of course they can be fired if they go against their employer and blow the whistle. You clearly have no idea of how things work in the real world.
If they fired her/him without just cause she could sue them for a lot of money. You don't know the law. However he/she would still need to prove they were right.
I am afraid is you who don't know what whistleblower means and the laws. The fact you ignore completely that whistleblowers don't have legal protections and they could easily lose their jobs says it all.
She is not a whistleblower, she is an employee hiding behind anonymity who most likely interpreted the DEI video within a warped conservative mental framework and most likely without a background in child developmental psychology. Prove me wrong.
She is a whistleblower who has exposed the trans ideology. The rest is desperate attempts to try to hold on to something.
She had provided no compelling evidence of that and nowhere does it state she went anywhere else but fox news. Most true whistleblowers go to the higher ups first.