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posted on Aug, 13 2023 @ 03:44 PM
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a reply to: vonclod

Well yeh the climate is doing what it has always done. But the fire still needs fuel oxygen and ignition.It just seems a strange place for it to occur when the main fires are nowhere near the town, and many interested parties want to buy the area for development.



posted on Aug, 13 2023 @ 03:55 PM
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a reply to: anonentity

The fires spread fast because of the winds. There were two or three at the same time in different parts of the island, including just outside Lahaina. People in the town were saying they had at most fifteen minutes between the evacuation order and the fire being there.



posted on Aug, 13 2023 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: watchitburn

It isn’t that suspicious when you look at the weather. High winds and wooden power poles that were probably termite infested make a bad combination.



posted on Aug, 13 2023 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Definitely possible, and maybe even most likely.

But after seeing the video of all those Canadian fires starting at the same time, I'm suspicious of everything.



posted on Aug, 13 2023 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: watchitburn

There are videos from just before the fire on Maui showing incredibly strong winds. They were talking gusts up to 80 mph in some places.



posted on Aug, 13 2023 @ 07:31 PM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Zaphod58

Definitely possible, and maybe even most likely.

But after seeing the video of all those Canadian fires starting at the same time, I'm suspicious of everything.


As much as I don't find this situation implausible, all those fires starting in Quebec at the same time was pretty trippy, perfect storm so to speak, or..I dunno. But it's not the govt doing, they couldn't find their own asshole, much less keep it secret.
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posted on Aug, 13 2023 @ 09:58 PM
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a reply to: vonclod

This is from a disgruntled local who seems to be up with the game. www.bitchute.com...



posted on Aug, 13 2023 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: anonentity

Funny, talking to people actually in Hawaii there’s lots of aid getting to Maui, shelters are open, people are being taken care of.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 01:11 AM
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Corrections, there may be many flybys , there has only been a couple of aircraft ever shot doan.. as for Alaska this was the first time they acted together and came so close you could get them with a rock.

This was to gauge the response from our demented POTUS..



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posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 05:11 AM
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a reply to: dlbott

Only a couple? There were probably a dozen or more US aircraft shot down during the Cold War.

No it isn’t the first time. And they have to get close to Alaska to get out of the Bering.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 05:25 AM
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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

As a point of interest, Ed dowd is on Maui, he was coming up with stuff that would be difficult to explain away.

Four mins. in we could ask how all these cars have an identical burn pattern, where there is no foliage.www.bitchute.com...




Well, first time I've come across this....




posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 06:35 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Asktheanimals

Except they don’t on aircraft. DEW programs have proven to be far, far more problematic than you give them credit for.


According to former Defense Secretary Mark Esper China already has such weapons platforms operating in space and this is from 3 years ago - but you can't mount these on aircraft? So maybe it's all just hype to maintain the ever-growing military budget but to me it sure looks like we are seeing new technologies being deployed against civilian targets.

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posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 06:44 AM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

Lasers in space generally are for taking out targets in space or the upper atmosphere, because shooting down through the atmosphere with power and accuracy is just as difficult as shooting in the atmosphere.

Taking a laser that’s mounted on a satellite isn’t as easy as just mounting it in a plane. Depending on the laser type you have to deal with contamination, have a plane big enough to carry it, modify the aircraft to shoot it, modify the laser to shoot in atmosphere…
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posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 07:31 AM
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And here we are still debating MTGs Space Lasers.

I hear when Biden was asked, leaving his beach resort, for his comments on Maui. He said, 'no comment'.

Biden doesn't GAF.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 07:58 AM
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Thanks for the video. I have not watched all of it as of yet but was interested in the identical "burn" patterns on the vehicles. The author of the video states there was no foliage around the vehicles to cause the vehicles to burn like that and pointed out how things were melted a certain way on every vehicle. I am not sure his logic is completely correct.

The winds were gusting 80+ mph not including any type of heat vortex caused by the fire itself. This alone could of caused the fires to reach the vehicles and if not maybe the ambient heat would probably cause this damage, like standing in front of a giant heat gun..we can melt/burn anything as long as the heat is high enough.

The engine blocks and the wheels melting with the glass blown do not seem that odd either at least to me. I would venture to guess not every engine block or wheel were melted because NOT ALL of them were made of aluminum. The average wild fire temp is 1,472° F or more.

Aluminum melts at 1,221°F

I feel the same can be said for the glass. Tempered Auto Glass is safe until about 470°F

The vehicle with the single door missing can be explained as well I think. The vehicle could of been in a wreck and the after market doors (which some are) was made of aluminum while the rest of the vehicle was steel.

Not sure why he had sensationalized that as much as he did. I do not trust the Gov/TPTB etc either but we can not go around saying everything is a phys-op/conspiracy.

I keep having to find myself telling my family members you know the ones that believe EVERYTHING is a conspiracy because a random youtuber/bitchuter that has a connection to the "inside" said it was and to quit following these people blindly. I mean I like a good conspiracy myself and have been caught up in the "excitement" and I to begin posting random crap..SMH.

When you begin posting random crap it just takes power away from the one really trying to reveal the truth. Just my two cents..



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posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 08:36 AM
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okay, so to recap what we've learned;

the Evil Global Cabal who have limitless power thanks to their control of the status quo - the world under the petrodollar - used a secret space weapon well beyond what our resident aeronautics expert assures us we're currently capable of to simulate a fire that burned in exactly the way those of us familiar with wildfires understand them to burn, in order to convince everyone that climate change is real, despite their power being based entirely on the petrodollar status quo remaining exactly as it is because they want to build hotels. Also we have a poster who invented a literal death star in the 80's and is very casual about the whole thing.

well done ATS, as coherent as ever. it's a pleasure.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: anonentity

Obviously the beams of light that came down and hit were..... Global Warming? Or something?

The green laser grids that were seen in the sky potentially mapping the area beforehand were..... also Global warming.

The selective home and landscape burning shortly after executive orders stripping people of their land were passed in the form of a government land grab, after said people have been fighting for years and refusing to sell their property..... That was because they don't have enough electric vehicles down there.

It's all just a coincidence. Even though there's video and pictures and documents evidencing the above points, none of that happened. And even though nothing like this has ever happened before (and they're lying about wind speed, humidity, and temperatures) it totally has happened before and it's nothing to worry about.

Or something like that.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: dothedew

Yes, the videos of the wind screaming through the town, with trees laying over sideways are absolutely fake. Nothing like that ever happens in Hawaii.

The executive order doesn’t strip lands, it allows for rezoning and speeds up the process to build new homes.
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posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: dothedew

i would really, really like to see said videos, I keep hearting people talk about them but I haven't had the chance to see them yet, can you link them for me? please?
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