LIVE: Congress holds UFO hearing.

I still don’t see how Grusch is any whistleblower when he saw nothing but tells us traditional UFO lore one can get from reading UFO books.

Now, if he were on some of these ufo crash missions or studied the biological entities himself, that would be different.

originally posted by: introufo
I still don’t see how Grusch is any whistleblower when he saw nothing but tells us traditional UFO lore one can get from reading UFO books.

Now, if he were on some of these ufo crash missions or studied the biological entities himself, that would be different.

Grusch was fantastic...Watch him like a hawk.

a reply to: carewemust

Photos, in this day and age, sadly prove very little. Certainly not the validity of so extraordinary a claim as the existence of an extraterrestrial lifeform.


The subcommittees approach, based on the line of questioning I observed today, appears to be to establish that the "evidence " exists, that it is the custody of Departments, Agencies, and Contractors operating under the oversight of the Congrss, and whose agents, employees and officers are subject to Congressial authority.

In essence, the subcommittee was laying the groundwork for potential legal action if its inquiries are blocked going forward. I found it very telling that the one Congresswoman's line of questioning focused on the potential mis- or redirection of funds authorized by Congress into UAP projects which were then "hidden" from oversight.


Money is the root of all Congressional interest!

originally posted by: WhiteHorse
The other telling thing that was said was that he wanted to keep an open mind and not refer to them as alien or extra-terrestrial in nature because there may be more to their origin than that. The only clear statement was that they are not human. Is it just me, or is their more to read between the lines here? Admiral Byrd? Multi-dimensional beings?

I found that interesting as well.

I'm not familiar with your Adm. Byrd reference, but there is definitely "something" to be read between the lines were "interdimensional" origins and/or connections are concerned. I noticed the, very brief, example of shadows being cast from one dimension to another, and to holograms.....before the topic was referred as one of those that could (only) be discussed further out of the public eye.


I'm left wondering if, perhaps, there might be some evidence to suggest that "FTL" is too slow?

a reply to: introufo

not a big deal to me...I believe him and have always been in the camp that we know much more than we have been told and lied to repeatedly. WE have been visited for ever and we continue to be so. Case closed as far as I am concerned.

Here's the summary of events from The Guardian Newspaper

• The US government conducted a “multi-decade” program which collected, and attempted to reverse engineer, crashed UFOs, former intelligence official David Grusch told the hearing.

• Grusch, who led analysis of unexplained anomalous phenomena (UAP) within a US Department of Defense agency until 2023, claimed he had been denied access to secret government UFO programs, said he has faced “very brutal” retaliation as a result of his allegations. He claimed he had knowledge of “people who have been harmed or injured” in the course of government efforts to conceal UFO information.

• Grusch told lawmakers that “non-human” biologics had been recovered by the government, but he had never seen an alien body. Grusch has also not seen the alleged alien craft himself – he says his claims are based on “extensive interviews with high-level intelligence officials” – and skeptics have noted that accusations that the government is hiding information on UFOs are nothing new.

• The Pentagon has denied Grusch’s claims of a cover-up. In a statement, a defense department spokesperson said investigators have not discovered “any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently”
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• Grusch’s allegation that the federal government was hiding this evidence of extraterrestrials from Congress sparked a firestorm in June, prompting the Republican-led oversight committee to launch an immediate investigation.

• Other witnesses at the hearing were David Fravor, a former navy commander who recalled seeing a strange object in the sky while on a training mission in 2004.

• Ryan Graves, a retired navy pilot who has since founded Americans for Safe Aerospace, a UAP non-profit, claimed that he saw UAP off the Atlantic coast “every day for at least a couple years”. The sightings were “not rare or isolated” and were being witnessed by military aircrews and commercial pilots “whose lives depend on accurate identification”, Graves said.

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I don't know what. But it feels like something is being covered up.

Grusch is very smooth. A bit too smooth for my liking. He’s hitting all the right notes but there’s no tune. Very little said was not already known here. Baby steps I guess, hopefully, but it’s probably more likely mid direction for another purpose. I expect to hear more about how dangerous and what a threat these entities are - when they clearly are not.

The one thing that has interested me is the Non Human Intelligence angle. Feels like they’re trying to say that there is another intelligent race right here on Earth. Maybe, just maybe, our alien visitors are not here for us at all, but to visit the actual intelligence on the planet. A bit chains of the sea.

a reply to: mirageman


Of course MM……”But it feels like something is being covered up”

Hasn’t that always been your forte? Your niche?

Keep diggin….. 😉

Btw….was the person sitting between Knapp and Corbell….recognizable as someone we should know?

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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: mirageman


Of course MM……”But it feels like something is being covered up”

Hasn’t that always been your forte? Your niche?

Keep diggin….. 😉

Btw….was the person sitting between Knapp and Corbell….recognizable as someone we should know?

🍻

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But mirageman, without Elizondo, is not having fun ...

originally posted by: ARM1986
Grusch is very smooth. A bit too smooth for my liking. He’s hitting all the right notes but there’s no tune. Very little said was not already known here. Baby steps I guess, hopefully, but it’s probably more likely mid direction for another purpose. I expect to hear more about how dangerous and what a threat these entities are - when they clearly are not.

The one thing that has interested me is the Non Human Intelligence angle. Feels like they’re trying to say that there is another intelligent race right here on Earth. Maybe, just maybe, our alien visitors are not here for us at all, but to visit the actual intelligence on the planet. A bit chains of the sea.

FWIW he can't divulge some stuff because of his security clearance oath, it makes sense

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: ARM1986
Grusch is very smooth. A bit too smooth for my liking. He’s hitting all the right notes but there’s no tune. Very little said was not already known here. Baby steps I guess, hopefully, but it’s probably more likely mid direction for another purpose. I expect to hear more about how dangerous and what a threat these entities are - when they clearly are not.

The one thing that has interested me is the Non Human Intelligence angle. Feels like they’re trying to say that there is another intelligent race right here on Earth. Maybe, just maybe, our alien visitors are not here for us at all, but to visit the actual intelligence on the planet. A bit chains of the sea.

FWIW he can't divulge some stuff because of his security clearance oath, it makes sense

It does, yes, but he’s still very smooth. Just, I dunno, something about him doesn’t sit right.

Did anyone else notice Grusch’s body language?

IMO, he seemed overwhelmingly proud of himself.

Which means, he’s still got strings and he is not an EX intelligence officer.

I wonder who his handlers are.

originally posted by: ARM1986

The one thing that has interested me is the Non Human Intelligence angle. Feels like they’re trying to say that there is another intelligent race right here on Earth.

This is what the IC "whistleblowers" keep hinting at.

Get ready to be told THEY have been here all along---the IDH kinda sorta. I would take some cash bets that this is where they are going with the careful wording.

While I basically lean that way myself these days, I am rather concerned about how such alleged information might be used or abused.

originally posted by: ARM1986

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: ARM1986
Grusch is very smooth. A bit too smooth for my liking. He’s hitting all the right notes but there’s no tune. Very little said was not already known here. Baby steps I guess, hopefully, but it’s probably more likely mid direction for another purpose. I expect to hear more about how dangerous and what a threat these entities are - when they clearly are not.

The one thing that has interested me is the Non Human Intelligence angle. Feels like they’re trying to say that there is another intelligent race right here on Earth. Maybe, just maybe, our alien visitors are not here for us at all, but to visit the actual intelligence on the planet. A bit chains of the sea.

FWIW he can't divulge some stuff because of his security clearance oath, it makes sense

It does, yes, but he’s still very smooth. Just, I dunno, something about him doesn’t sit right.

Perhaps the word is “rehearsed”

Meaning of rehearsed in English to practise a play, a piece of music, etc. in order to prepare it for public performance: The musicians rehearsed (the symphony) for the concert.

Jus following the script…perhaps?

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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1

originally posted by: ARM1986

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: ARM1986
Grusch is very smooth. A bit too smooth for my liking. He’s hitting all the right notes but there’s no tune. Very little said was not already known here. Baby steps I guess, hopefully, but it’s probably more likely mid direction for another purpose. I expect to hear more about how dangerous and what a threat these entities are - when they clearly are not.

The one thing that has interested me is the Non Human Intelligence angle. Feels like they’re trying to say that there is another intelligent race right here on Earth. Maybe, just maybe, our alien visitors are not here for us at all, but to visit the actual intelligence on the planet. A bit chains of the sea.

FWIW he can't divulge some stuff because of his security clearance oath, it makes sense

It does, yes, but he’s still very smooth. Just, I dunno, something about him doesn’t sit right.

Perhaps the word is “rehearsed”

Meaning of rehearsed in English to practise a play, a piece of music, etc. in order to prepare it for public performance: The musicians rehearsed (the symphony) for the concert.

Jus following the script…perhaps?

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Yes, this is what I was getting at. It’s all a little too easy. Like you say, rehearsed. The whole thing has blown up far too conveniently, but then I do think they are up against time.

Anything to see here?


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a reply to: The GUT

The problem with this phrasing is that it could technically apply to a monkey that was sent into space or crashed. These loose wordings always bugged me about DC. If they have something that isn't from Earth or known to be from Earth, then just say that instead of this word vomit to obscure the facts.

originally posted by: The GUT

originally posted by: ARM1986

The one thing that has interested me is the Non Human Intelligence angle. Feels like they’re trying to say that there is another intelligent race right here on Earth.

This is what the IC "whistleblowers" keep hinting at.

Get ready to be told THEY have been here all along---the IDH kinda sorta. I would take some cash bets that this is where they are going with the careful wording.

While I basically lean that way myself these days, I am rather concerned about how such alleged information might be used or abused.

Damn, I feel stupid what's IDH? Interdimensional humanoids? and not underground Lizzid people.

Im stoked at the possibilities, and yes somebody has likely made beaucoup bucks off this, if true.

I got a feeling after the hearing went on certain departments and/or agencies shredders were working overtime

originally posted by: KKLOCO
Did anyone else notice Grusch’s body language?

IMO, he seemed overwhelmingly proud of himself.

Which means, he’s still got strings and he is not an EX intelligence officer.

I wonder who his handlers are.

Handlers? sounds like you are expecting a psyop. Perhaps but for now I was impressed by both the pilots and Grusch well now the clock is ticking we will see how Burchett and the other congressmen and women respond after the SCIF meetings.

Someone just pointed out that there have been three intelligence briefings on UFOs to Congress in the past 4 years.

Why does Congress keep doing this and not getting any answers that are final, with real proof?